Science March for Science

So a bunch of people gathered to stage a protest or something directed at PMURT and the dumb Republicans who voted for him because he's anti-science and probably believes in God lol what a fag.

Although there seems to be a misunderstanding between what is science-fiction and actual science among these people.

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Le Science Man and Le Science Black Man for 2020 also they are very sciencey because they are celebrities.

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It is also time for science to stop being based on merits and results, and seize the means of obtaining Nobel Prizes, because marxism and egalitarianism are the most efficient ideologies as demonstrated by history.

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But overall I agree with the general sentiment of this demonstration: that is, that politicians are disregarding scientific evidence when taking certain actions. In fact, I don't think I have ever seen any politician consider this piece of scientific data.
 
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Ineedahero said:
It means that an African witchdoctor predicting an eclipse through a ridiculously complicated set of pseudo mathematics and astrology is just as scientifically valid as a western scientist using the scientific method.
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Not just that, but the early days of science were so unfair, that all the original discoveries should be stricken so african scientists can have the opportunity to discover things, and get credit for them, like the laws of motion.
 
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Yet, despite all this, this discredited nonsense is still central to the tranny theory of gender that is pimped to this day and you're a literal Nazi if you don't agree with it.
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Yup. Thats the damage stuff like this can do. You can't even look at the genetic component without them screeching. There is also the fact that it is completely inconsistent that gender is a social construct but sexual preferences aren't. It fails even from a logical standpoint.
 
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Secret Asshole said:
Yup. Thats the damage stuff like this can do. You can't even look at the genetic component without them screeching. There is also the fact that it is completely inconsistent that gender is a social construct but sexual preferences aren't. It fails even from a logical standpoint.
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One way I've heard it argued is that sex is biological but that gender roles are a social/cultural construct, which at least makes a little more sense. But people still use it as a bludgeon to deem little boys and girls "trans" before they've even hit puberty.
 
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I can't grab caps because mobile but there's some funny stuff happening on Twitter.
TEN_GOP, an unofficial Tennessee republican group made a post showing trash cans overflowing with signs from the protests.
https://mobile.twitter.com/TEN_GOP/status/855924980084879360
Some guy tries to make a "lol conservatives so dumb" joke out of it, completely missing the point that it's hypocritical for people protesting for science and environmentalism to contribute to landfills with the very signs they used to push their agenda.
https://mobile.twitter.com/sad_tree/status/855929435748519936
When people pointed out that most of the signs were made of paper and therefore should have been recycled, liberals tried to excuse it by saying there must not have been recycling bins around the protests. Which implies that the protestors were so fucking lazy they couldn't be bothered to take their signs home and put them in their own recycling bins or take them to the local recycling center.
https://mobile.twitter.com/novriltataki/status/855932985740275712
 
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Secret Asshole said:
Gender Identity as a Social Construct. You hear all of these ideas being tossed around, but you never really hear how they started or who started them or how they got to that conclusion. I'm going to tell you
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If you're gonna presume to give a science lesson, perhaps consider doing some research yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lili_Elbe
It didn't start where you claimed it started. Hell, it doesn't even really start where I'm pointing to either, Watch this too if you have time

There's an entire body of research supporting the science here, you're going to have to do a lot more than refer to one incidence to claim its all discredited.
 
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MMMMMM said:
If you're gonna presume to give a science lesson, perhaps consider doing some research yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lili_Elbe
It didn't start where you claimed it started. Hell, it doesn't even really start where I'm pointing to either, Watch this too if you have time

There's an entire body of research supporting the science here, you're going to have to do a lot more than refer to one incidence to claim its all discredited.
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I'm not seeing what about the life of Lili Elbe points to gender being a social construct. If anything, it suggests at a more biological influence since it mentions the possibility of her having some distinctly female biology.

I don't think anyone has ever argued that everything about gender is based in biology. Of course stuff like blue is for boys, girls wear dresses, etc. is cultural. That doesn't change the fact that there are well known biological distinctions and influences on the behavior of men and women. Just look at the influences of testosterone or estrogen on a person's behavior. Research on this hasn't gotten very far at the moment, but there is some evidence that being trans is tied into your brain structure.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-there-something-unique-about-the-transgender-brain/

I question the rationality of cultures that create the idea of a third gender based on shit like, "I had a crazy dream once." Plenty of cultures around the world have held belief in irrational things like rain dances, ghosts, etc. What basis is there for such things other than their say so?

Don't talk shit about a large body of research when all you've got is a Wikipedia article and some dude's Youtube video.
 
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PurpleDude said:
I'm not seeing what about the life of Lili Elbe points to gender being a social construct. If anything, it suggests at a more biological influence since it mentions the possibility of her having some distinctly female biology.

I don't think anyone has ever argued that everything about gender is based in biology. Of course stuff like blue is for boys, girls wear dresses, etc. is cultural. That doesn't change the fact that there are well known biological distinctions and influences on the behavior of men and women. Just look at the influences of testosterone or estrogen on a person's behavior. Research on this hasn't gotten very far at the moment, but there is some evidence that being trans is tied into your brain structure.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-there-something-unique-about-the-transgender-brain/

I question the rationality of cultures that create the idea of a third gender based on shit like, "I had a crazy dream once." Plenty of cultures around the world have held belief in irrational things like rain dances, ghosts, etc. What basis is there for such things other than their say so?

Don't talk shit about a large body of research when all you've got is a Wikipedia article and some dude's Youtube video.
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Heck, I'd say that cultural presentation of gender is constructed (because duh), but I think we're getting off topic here.
 
MMMMMM said:
If you're gonna presume to give a science lesson, perhaps consider doing some research yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lili_Elbe
It didn't start where you claimed it started. Hell, it doesn't even really start where I'm pointing to either, Watch this too if you have time

There's an entire body of research supporting the science here, you're going to have to do a lot more than refer to one incidence to claim its all discredited.
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I never said transgendered people didn't exist. I said that gender as a social construct has far more to do with Nature than Nurture. Whatever it is, it is hard-coded. It doesn't change like a pair of pants and regardless of how society treats you, it will always be instinctual. I'm not denying Gender Dysphoria. This doesn't include cultural things like girls with dolls and shit like that.

Also, Intersex are genetic disorders. Not to mention you are talking about 0.018% of the population. Its not another gender. The commonly cited 1.7% intersex stat includes a massively broad category, and when corrected, it drops to the percentage I quoted. This is because it includes conditions that are not intersex. Transgenderism is 0.3% of the population and even that is a high estimate. The only third gender in nature that occurs in humans are hermaphrodites, and hermaphroditic humans are so rare they're nearly unique. Nearly all are infertile.

Like it or not, there are only two genders which 99.982% of the population are. Not even 1% are 'another gender'. Yes, intersex presents a complication. But its a disorder. If we had perfect DNA replication, intersex people would not exist. You can't simply erase a gender from a species and not expect it to have catastrophic results. The human race wouldn't even notice. On the other hand, drastically reduce the number of males or females, you're looking at a population collapse.

Its not politically correct to say, it doesn't preserve people's feelings. But I'm not going to deny reality because of it.
 
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MMMMMM said:
If you're gonna presume to give a science lesson, perhaps consider doing some research yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lili_Elbe
It didn't start where you claimed it started. Hell, it doesn't even really start where I'm pointing to either, Watch this too if you have time
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That says nothing about the philosophical or sociological concept of gender as a social construct, much less the purported scientific or medical basis for this actually being objective reality.
 
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MMMMMM said:
If you're gonna presume to give a science lesson, perhaps consider doing some research yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lili_Elbe
It didn't start where you claimed it started. Hell, it doesn't even really start where I'm pointing to either, Watch this too if you have time

There's an entire body of research supporting the science here, you're going to have to do a lot more than refer to one incidence to claim its all discredited.
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A Wikipedia article and a Youtube video of some guy with zero scientific credentials? Guess I'd better give up and concede defeat since I'm clearly no match for your superior powers of persuasion and argumentation.
 
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Ruin said:
A Wikipedia article and a Youtube video of some guy with zero scientific credentials? Guess I'd better give up and concede defeat since I'm clearly no match for your superior powers of persuasion and argumentation.
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There's no need to refute something that doesn't bear consideration.
 
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