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even three eye monsters are sad
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Not quite. Carol was supposed to join the team at the very end of Age of Ultron, they even have an alternate version of the final scene (the one where Steve goes "Avengers... A-" and gets cut off) with a stand-in for Carol. When each character gets an individual shot, she's shown instead of Wanda, who in turn is shown together with Vision.
I'm not sure if she was supposed to factor more into the movie, or if she was gonna be a surprise at the end, but I'm pretty sure the intention was for the Captain Marvel movie to happen earlier than it did. Same with the Black Widow movie; both were fought against by Ike "the Kike" Perlmutter and the committee that acted as a counterweight to Feige's power, which was removed after Feige outmaneuvered them (or, probably more accurately, bitched up a storm) during the whole Civil War studio politics drama. With Ike and his people gone, Feige was creatively unleashed and the MCU started soaring... only to burn to ashes on re-entry. It's what happens when there's no one to tell you "no", and you start losing all sense of restraint (not to say Ike didn't do stupid shit either, I mean look at the Inhumans movie-turned-series).
In the comics, Carol was turned into Captain Marvel (previously being Ms. Marvel) in 2012, so there's no way she was going to be in Avengers 1, which came out in 2012 as well. What is known is that she was made Captain because all the cool and popular female characters in Marvel were tied up with the F4 and X-Men, so they couldn't use them, and they desperately wanted their own Wonder Woman. On that note, Wasp (Janet, not Hope) was supposed to be in Avengers 1, played by Zoey Deschanel, and be pretty much the point of view character. But Edgar Wright's Ant-Man, which was supposed to be among the first batch of movies, fell through because of "creative differences", so Wasp was removed and the plot changed.
As a note, Carol is not the first female Captain Marvel. There were not 1, but 2 before her. One is Monica Rambeau (who got introduced to the MCU as Carol's black friend's daughter, got powers in Wandavision, was in the megaflop The Marvels as Photon, and is now stuck in the Fox X-Men universe?) and the other is Phyla Vell, the dyke daughter of the original Captain Marvel, Mar-Vell (who is NOT an old woman). Phyla got introduced as one of the alien kids the Guardians rescued in GOTG3, the one who's in the team at the very end.
Both predated Carol, and were more progressive choices (niggress and dyke) than straight white woman Carol would have been, and were at the time more popular, too, both having had popularity boosts since the mid 2000's thanks to the Nextwave and Annihilation books.
But here we are, with boring ass sanitized Carol. Because she was more conflicted and interesting in the Ms. Marvel days. But I'll stop sperging now.
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Those saying Blade needs to be a "fleshed out character" act like the previous movies didn't have emotional scenes.
He probably would not excite normies, outside those who remember True Blood, like RDJ.
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It's one of those things where the "now people" now know the "old thing" by a distorted reputation and haven't actually experienced it. But it's old, so it must be inferior, they didn't know better back then. True Blade has never been tried, but we will make it work.
Look at the new God of War games. They act like the old ones had no substance to them, and sure they were less solemn (not less serious, there's a difference) and more outrageous in their spectacle, but they had plenty of character development. Here's a video I always recommend that explains it in detail.
By the same token, Blade films were goofy in many ways, with flashy action, and at times questionable visual effects, but also emotional scenes and character nuance, if you pay attention.
But no, it's old, we know better. We'll update it for modern audiences.
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This shit isn't even out yet & I feel like we already owe him an apology.
He literally keeps getting proven to be right in one way or another.
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Captain Marvel is another example of Marvel's woke bullshit fucking them over. I've never seen the movie myself but everything I know about it paints a bad picture. Carol is nothing like her comic counterpart, to the point where she basically doesn't have a personality at all because they confused "boring" with "stoic". Then they juiced up her power level so much that they can't use her outside of her movies because she's invincible. It meant a lot to the writers to have a woman be the strongest Avenger, to the point where it hurts the rest of the universe. They made a whole movie to hype up a glorified cameo in Endgame.
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Dude, the Blade vs Frost fight is still the shit, and it's been nearly 30 years.
The pushback Disney has been receiving from investors is steadily growing, especially after Epic Universe's opening. The boardroom when F4 fails is going to be intense because they will attempt to rewrite next year's Avengers. I am in the camp of expecting a delay, but they say it's due to reshoots later on.
The pushback Disney has been receiving from investors is steadily growing, especially after Epic Universe's opening. The boardroom when F4 fails is going to be intense because they will attempt to rewrite next year's Avengers. I am in the camp of expecting a delay, but they say it's due to reshoots later on.
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Never expected Fantastic 4 to be the point at which I stop keeping up with the MCU but here we are.
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When people ask me why I liked Deadpool and Wolverine so much, it's because
1. Deadpool fighting Wolverine
2. Gambit kicking ass with cards and staff
3. Blade being smug during his fights
4. Actual comic book costumes
Like, the characters acting as they were meant to act. I know, shocking.
These characters have comic books with stories and the MCU just won't adapt them. Because they don't like comic books. Feige doesn't like comic books, Gunn doesn't like comic books. They like the characters in the same way any normie would dress up as Batman for Halloween. That's it.
Yellow Blue Spandex?
The excuse back then was that the movies were still testing the waters... Now, Deadpool and Wolverine proved people liked the comic accurate uniforms. Marvel just doesn't care what we want while also expecting that we give them money.
1. Deadpool fighting Wolverine
2. Gambit kicking ass with cards and staff
3. Blade being smug during his fights
4. Actual comic book costumes
Like, the characters acting as they were meant to act. I know, shocking.
These characters have comic books with stories and the MCU just won't adapt them. Because they don't like comic books. Feige doesn't like comic books, Gunn doesn't like comic books. They like the characters in the same way any normie would dress up as Batman for Halloween. That's it.
Case in point above... It's the same xmen 2000s joke again: what did you expect?
The excuse back then was that the movies were still testing the waters... Now, Deadpool and Wolverine proved people liked the comic accurate uniforms. Marvel just doesn't care what we want while also expecting that we give them money.
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There has been a bit of a revisionist history with Ike being what made the MCU good, but he had his own set of really stupid ideas too. I watched most of Agents of Shield but even I didn't bother with Inhumans. I'm glad someone else hasn't forgotten that.
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I remember watching it while taking a break from reading One Piece (humanly speaking, anyone needs a break while trying to binge through 1100 (at the time) chapters. I went through 800 by that point)...
It's legitimately, objectively, boring as a film itself, even without the wokeness itself (granted it still is the engine behind this jalopy of a film). Most of the jokes don't land cause they were written by Commiefornian soibois or/& Karens, the action sucks, the girlbossery will never not be grating, Brie Larson's attitude at the time made her legitimately what Rachel Zegler is now (she legitimately seems nicer during & since doing Fast & Furious 10), & the finale is literally a shitty rip-off of Dragon Ball Z (even her final form is quite literally just a Super Saiyan rip-off).
The theaters were literally empty too as per many witnesses, so quite Disney unironically astroturfed the shit out of it too. Hell, that film literally made people aware of "antagonistic marketing" being a thing.
I remember watching 1st Aquaman right after it & liked it way more.
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As much as it sounds like an insane conspiracy theory, I really do get the feeling that Disney artifically made Captain Marvel a hit. Because even at the time, there was a major disconnect between the responses to the press tour and the sheer amount of money that the movie had made. I don't think Disney wanted to allow the movie to fail because it would look bad so they had to pump the numbers up somehow.
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Surprisingly seems to be getting good reviews.
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I wont trust anything until people here start seeing it.
Possibly Jester Bell as I usually agree with her takes on things. Assuming she can get through it without retching like a cat with a hairball every time Pedro Pascal appears.
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Literally meaningless.
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I don't trust a thing. They said the same with Superman, and that was pretty bland.
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I know, but I do tend to agree with Jahns. I'll wait for IRL and on-here word of mouth to decide if I want to go and see it in theater. I had almost no interest in it but these upbeat reviews have me a little bit now.
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Early reviewers are the type that like slop for real. I can't trust them. Most of the times, reality is all the opposite of what these people say.
"Omg this movie is so emotional!!" Bland.
"It didn't understand the characters" Wholesome.
And so on.
"Omg this movie is so emotional!!" Bland.
"It didn't understand the characters" Wholesome.
And so on.
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Alternatively, with all of the trash Marvel and DC have pumped out the past decade, even something bland and boring can be seen as a breath of fresh air.
For fuck's sake, the most popular animated movie so far this year is about a K-pop version of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Believe me when I say the bar is low.