Disaster "Mass casualty incident" declared after Key Bridge in Baltimore collapses

No article yet as this just happened, but could be big. One of the largest bridges in the world according to Wikipedia.

https://foxbaltimore.com/news/local/breaking-news-key-bridge-collapsed

 

[MisterNeurotic]

They're gonna put the blame on a billion things before they even think about the most obvious and blatant cause: low I.Q. streetshitters doing low I.Q. things.

The legacy media and the political talking heads may just as well sum it up as "It was God's will..." at let it go at that, except they'd have to admit the existence of God.

Don't streetshitters have a penchant for grappling high-voltage wires to the degree it's hard-wired (heh) into their DNA? That could explain the 'lost power' angle.

Edit: Android raptor, you're still pissed I called you a Jew? Stop acting Jewish and let it go, Jewboi. Or maybe you're a streetshitter.

Hey I'll give the crew credit they did let authorities know that they were going to hit the bridge and prevented a lot of deaths... What about the two pilots?

 

[Tour of Italy]

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Well whaddya know. Come on out, ye engineers. Tell the class which support would have to be struck for the truss to not collapse.

NPR is already talking about how the bridge needs to be renamed because Francis Scott Key was a slave owner. They also say the bridge was built poorly and neglected because the USA is so racist. It couldn’t be poor management by local officials, no, white people are the problem.

If a container ship had hit that pier the day after the bridge opened the collapse would have been almost identical.

Bridges are not designed to withstand impacts from fully loaded container ships. They’re primarily designed for road vehicle impact, ice, snow, wind, traffic, and the vibration of their own mass during earthquakes. If there are provisions for marine vehicle impact, they’d likely cover the 99% most likely cases that don’t involve huge honking cargo tankers weighing an appreciable percentage of the bridge itself’s weight. That, plus the bigger a bridge gets the more engineering problems arise far beyond the code prescriptions in the first place.

It would be cheaper to spend several million dollars a year hiring a team of specialists to personally inspect and steer every ship that leaves port than built a bridge that could resist that kind of impact.

One of the first rules of sailing is that right-of-way goes to the less mobile entity. You don’t get less mobile than a bridge pier. This was very plainly a ship issue, not a structural one.

Still, on the one hand, US infrastructure does need attention, on the other, the public and clueless bureaucracies are going to be focusing on this blue moon event for the next few years instead of the more obvious solution of spending less money blowing up people halfway across the globe and more of it stopping very preventable issues with highway structures. I would bet my hat that the next edition of the US bridge design code AASHTO has more specific marine impact provisions, which is frankly a waste of time.

This was about as close to an act of God as you can get, and it turns out God hates Baltimore.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

The lolcows of Conservapedia was far-fetched when they ranted about the bridge.

https://archive.ph/NMQgf#selection-2393.0-2409.35

https://ghostarchive.org/archive/3mXz7

Setback for globalism: foreign cargo ship having an accident record destroys Baltimore's entire Francis Scott Key Bridge, causing many billions in damages, and Biden says American taxpayers will bear the full cost. [1]

And Randy Newman's song "Baltimore" is more relevant than ever.

 

[Otterly]

I’m confused as to why Jersh thinks the citizenship of the sailors (India) is so important to this situation.

There’s actually a charity set up to help seafarers (it used to be seamen but sexism) because they’re basically in slave level conditions. Companies that pick the cheapest labour and work them the hardest to save pennies on costs are also more likely to skimp on maintenance- the fuel alone for these ships dwarfs crews wages but that’s corporatism for you.

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Well that’s…. Odd.

 

[NevskyProspekt]

The lolcows of Conservapedia was far-fetched when they ranted about the bridge.

https://archive.ph/NMQgf#selection-2393.0-2409.35

https://ghostarchive.org/archive/3mXz7

And Randy Newman's song "Baltimore" is more relevant than ever.

Damn, you beat me to it by two minutes. What a spectacular song.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

The only two situations I'm familiar with that are anything like this would be the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald and the wreck of the Pharos, and both of those involve ships out to sea during extreme storm conditions that battered the hull until it broke.

Too bad Lightfoot is dead, we need a ballad.

 

[Oxyjen]

The anchors were not going to stop it in time even if dropped instantly. There was just too much mass in motion.

That’s true, I’m just pointing out that the source who was supposedly on the boat says they did not drop anchor. Whereas observers and official sources have said they did do so early on. And from video of the boat you can clearly see the anchor is out at least on the port side, with the chain stretching back, showing that it was dragged.

It makes the whole comment even less credible.

 

[Ebonic Tutor]

Your tendency to make everything about the supposed racial inferiority of non-whites beggars belief at times. Not everything is about race homie, and there are plenty of extremely smaht Pajeets doing fancy stuff at Harvard and MIT.

Somebody hasn't paid attention to how shitty windows has been getting UX wise.

 

[TheBigZee]

@Oxyjen I don't know if it was followed through on, but the pilot ordered the port anchor dropped and the rudder hard left to try to swing the ship or slow it.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

The most shocking thing about this is that the city had their Pothole crew on the bridge at the time it collapsed.

It's incredibly shocking because no one would have ever thought that Baltimore had a pothole crew in the first place.

 

[AgendaPoster]

Not everything is about race homie, and there are plenty of extremely smaht Pajeets doing fancy stuff at Harvard and MIT.

Let's make that number zero shall we

 

[GunCar Gary]

Not everything is about race homie, and there are plenty of extremely smaht Pajeets lying and cheating their way through Harvard and MIT.

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also, if you add "selling research and trade secrets to the CCP", feel free include smaht chinese in the above as well

 

[trash cat]

Maybe the fuel was contaminated, but you expect me to believe there wasn't some sort of incompetence at play?

Didn't say that.

Definitely could involve incompetence or worse.

I'm just pointing out that the people who told me yesterday that it "couldn't" be the diesel fuel are retards.

It's probably a series of errors, that line up just right, like in an airplane crash.

 

[RodgerDodger]

If a container ship had hit that pier the day after the bridge opened the collapse would have been almost identical.

This is the Sunshine Skyway bridge. The original. It came down a handful of years after the Francis Scott Key bridge was completed. They were very similar types of bridges with almost exactly the same weaknesses. It's actually rather shocking just how similar the two disasters are. At least they didn't lose a bus with this one.

But I think after the Sunshine Skyway collapse they largely stopped building that type of bridge out over heavy traffic waterways, and opted for much higher suspension bridges with fewer piers, and vast protective bollards around the footings. It's literally they had just finished the Key bridge and werent about to rebuild it until it hit eol.

 

[BulkForceFive]

AKSHUALLY, starboard is "right" if you are facing forward (towards the bow) and port is "left" is you are facing forward (towards the bow). If you are looking aft, your left will be starboard and your right will be port.



They fire up the engines 1 hour before departure, and put any additional generators online. Considering they were in a SECA, they would need to run ULSFO which can absolutely have bacterial growth if not properly treated. If the shipowner was too cheap to install a centrifuge for the ULSFO and have it constantly run on the service tank(s), I can absolutely see clogged filter(s) causing this issue. To reduce on manpower requirements, so-called auto-filtration units are installed for the fuel before going to the engines, and they might have 2 (one for the main engine and one for the generators if you are lucky). If this thing got clogged, lights out. Maybe the one for the aux engines got clogged, then the crew switched those engines over to the main engine auto-filtrator and that got clogged too.

As for dropping anchor, something tells me those anchor windlasses haven't been exercised since the last 5 year survey. It's a container ship, it ties up alongside for cargo, it has no need to use the anchor.

Someone could've opened the wrong half of a dual strainer assembly (the half that was in use) and cut off fuel supply when trying to clean it.
Guys, as fun as it is to blame NIGGERS for all the problems in the world, in this case they were all left on the docks and weren't the cause of the accident. Maybe there was negligence on the part of the crew, maybe not, we'll have to wait for the report to come out. Loss of steering incidents happen all over the world, every year; this one was just at such a staggeringly bad moment in time that it led to a major accident. Both of the solutions on the American end (reinforced collision-proof bridges and tug escort out through the Chesapeake) are very expensive and not required 99.9999% of the time.

 

[Tour of Italy]

But I think after the Sunshine Skyway collapse they largely stopped building that type of bridge out over heavy traffic waterways, and opted for much higher suspension bridges with fewer piers, and vast protective bollards around the footings.

Fewer piers would help. No bollard can stop a container ship, at least not one that can be build economically. They could probably protect against even midsized commercial vessels, but there is a staggering amount of momentum in even a slow moving cargo ship.

Where possible, some ports opt for tunnels. Further south in the Chesapeake, there are a series of bridge-tunnel systems deep enough to let aircraft carriers and container ships go over. Can’t hit the roads if they’re under the sea. Plus strategically the US Navy decided a bridge that could be knocked out and block the harbor was too risky.

Not everywhere has the soil and space for a tunnel though. If the crossing is too narrow, there’s not enough room to bring the grade down at a reasonable slope.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

This is the Sunshine Skyway bridge. The original. It came down a handful of years after the Francis Scott Key bridge was completed. They were very similar types of bridges with almost exactly the same weaknesses. It's actually rather shocking just how similar the two disasters are. At least they didn't lose a bus with this one.

But I think after the Sunshine Skyway collapse they largely stopped building that type of bridge out over heavy traffic waterways, and opted for much higher suspension bridges with fewer piers, and vast protective bollards around the footings. It's literally they had just finished the Key bridge and werent about to rebuild it until it hit eol.

Bridges can be retrofitted. In the case of Queen Isabella Memorial Bridge in South Padre Island, which was more of a causeway/viaduct design (where there's no "critical" piers) they were able to reinforce the columns and add a warning system in case anything was damaged (basically, if a cable stretching the bridge was damaged, lights and gates would start going off). Now, I'm not sure if a warning system would've helped since the collapse was instantaneous (in SPI's case this is helpful due to different bridge construction)...but they should've tried to reinforce it.

That being said, it looks like they basically rammed their tugboat into it (as opposed to a glancing blow) so it's questionable how much reinforcement would've helped.

 

[George Lucas]

The lolcows of Conservapedia was far-fetched when they ranted about the bridge.

https://archive.ph/NMQgf#selection-2393.0-2409.35

https://ghostarchive.org/archive/3mXz7

And Randy Newman's song "Baltimore" is more relevant than ever.

Randy Newman sounds retarded.

This is the Sunshine Skyway bridge. The original. It came down a handful of years after the Francis Scott Key bridge was completed. They were very similar types of bridges with almost exactly the same weaknesses. It's actually rather shocking just how similar the two disasters are. At least they didn't lose a bus with this one.

But I think after the Sunshine Skyway collapse they largely stopped building that type of bridge out over heavy traffic waterways, and opted for much higher suspension bridges with fewer piers, and vast protective bollards around the footings. It's literally they had just finished the Key bridge and werent about to rebuild it until it hit eol.

There was some competition and debate about whether cable, suspension, or truss bridges were best. A big contention was that cable bridges were ugly and suspension was expensive. The Sunshine collapse ended that debate rather decisively.

 

[LaxerBRO]

My proposal for the new bridge:



Butterfly Bridge by Frank Lloyd Wright

 

[Stan]

Let's make that number zero shall we

Given this is an odd thread to say this in, but I'd defend the Indian profs and doctors who taught me to the grave. If you don't think those guys are smart, it's because you're not listening. This is a blind spot I think you have with regards to race and achievement; you seem to think that nothing good can come out of any other place but the Anglosphere and Eurozone.

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also, if you add "selling research and trade secrets to the CCP", feel free include smaht chinese in the above as well

?_? No idea what you are on about, sir