Mass Effect General Thread

Zaeed is the best character in all of Mass Effect period. RIP Robin Sachs. It's a shame his DLC was so shit gameplay wise because every line of that goddamn bastard's dialogue is a goddamn gem.
I still love that his intro in the series is kicking a tried up/helpless Batarian in the face with 99% of the fan base going "Yeah, fuck those guys".

Current Bioware could never write a character compelling again.
 
Mass Effect 3 is a uniquely tragic game at a meta level in a lot of ways to me. It was Bioware's last gasp of greatness, before they went full hog on wokeshit and permanently downgraded their games. Even it isn't immune, you have Shepard being made into a weaker, PTSD ridden wreck, even though they were previously an unflinching badass whether Paragon or Renegade. You have the Marvel quip writing creeping in, especially in the Citadel DLC. And of course there's the infamously awful ending.

It had plenty of good though, it's a lovely looking game, there's still fun gameplay even if it's been simplified, and the Multiplayer is the biggest loss of Legendary Edition by a long shot.

After seeing Andromeda, and especially DA:Veilguard, I don't think the theoretical Mass Effect 4 is even paying attention to. It's just going to defile what good remains of the franchise after the damage Andromeda already did.
 
The first one I played was 2. A dumb and impulsive decision that I eventually remedied when I got to 1 and just remade my Shepards from scratch. The trilogy is great overall and even Andromeda is alright if you go in with the lowest expectations possible, with really fun and memorable characters. Was nice getting to play the DLC I'd never bought before in the Legendary Edition despite the various downgrades.

I'm remaining hesitant about 5.
 
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Mass Effect 3 is a uniquely tragic game at a meta level in a lot of ways to me. It was Bioware's last gasp of greatness, before they went full hog on wokeshit and permanently downgraded their games. Even it isn't immune, you have Shepard being made into a weaker, PTSD ridden wreck, even though they were previously an unflinching badass whether Paragon or Renegade. You have the Marvel quip writing creeping in, especially in the Citadel DLC. And of course there's the infamously awful ending.

It had plenty of good though, it's a lovely looking game, there's still fun gameplay even if it's been simplified, and the Multiplayer is the biggest loss of Legendary Edition by a long shot.

After seeing Andromeda, and especially DA:Veilguard, I don't think the theoretical Mass Effect 4 is even paying attention to. It's just going to defile what good remains of the franchise after the damage Andromeda already did.
It is really amazing isn't it? Mass Effect felt like it was gonna be the next Star Wars/Star Trek franchise and then it just petered out to be a wet fart. All Bioware/EA had to do was spin off Mass Effect 3 Multiplayer into its own F2P game (basically Warframe before Warframe) and the franchise could have lived on while the mainline single player games were being worked on.
 
Off topic but seeing all these "RPG" franchises go down the shitter with troon and other hedonistic shit makes me wonder how nuts elder scrolls 6 is gonna be. Maybe they'll make the thalmor into transphobic chudmer that you're not allowed to play as ever because you just can't ok?
Y'all need to sit the hell down and listen to fat Dunmer women of colour. Periodt. While we're at it decriminalise skooma and stop dehumanising Khajiix folx. SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK! DECRIMINALISATION IS HUMANISATION. No carceral state whether Nord or Imperial. Decolonise Skyrim. Return it to the indigenous Falmer and Dunmer pipo and listen to their indigenous knowledge. Send they Nord white asses back to Atmora fr. #NecromancersVsPatriarchy. #Dremora4LaquishaSlays-Many-Chuds. Consumption of nirnroot is natural HRT. #ElderScrollsMudcrabIsTrans. Sheogorath/Jyggalag is an allegory for the dichotomy between authoritarian fascism and freedom and the structures of oppressive gender roles, basically Jyggalag signifies capitalist superstructure. Anyone who doesn't think gaming is political is either a fake fan or stupid!
Mass Effect felt like it was gonna be the next Star Wars/Star Trek franchise and then it just petered out to be a wet fart.
That's very true. It could have been so cool. Imagine how amazing it would be if it got to that point. But, unfortunately, I don't think the current trends are going anywhere any time soon. Very sad.
 
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I read something funny, on how the ME1 codex describes the Asari political landscape making decisions by posting in chatrooms and talking things out until a decision is made, with Matriarchs often having significant influence due to their advanced age and status. With this information, I like to believe an Asari /pol/ exists. What do you think Asari /pol/ would be like?

I imagine chaotic shitposting, provactive images of different males from other species, them mocking each other for which species they like (Krogansisters are the most mocked) to dumb bait/questions like "how blue is your
skin", "post scalp-crest", or "did you know that asari-krogan hybrids...."

I bet with how long they live, some of the feuds could be hilarious, ones lasting centuries
 
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The Asari are baffling to me in the sense that a race of hyper-advanced intellectual aliens who live past 1000 years at times should know better than to still have to deal with stuff like political slapfights or even crime to a degree. To say nothing of the self-discovery and spiritual enlightenment one would achieve after a couple of centuries of the same old dancing, whoring or even selling yourself off as a mercenary.
 
I read something funny, on how the ME1 codex makes the Asari political landscape makes decisions by posting in chatrooms and talking things out until a decision is made, with Matriarchs often having significant influence due to their advanced age and status. With this information, I like to believe an Asari /pol/ exists. What do you think Asari /pol/ would be like?

I imagine chaotic shitposting, provactive images of different males from other species, them mocking each other for which species they like (Krogansisters are the most mocked) to dumb bait/questions like "how blue is your
skin", "post scalp-crest", or "did you know that asari-krogan hybrids...."
Krogansisters, are all men trash or have I just dated bad guys?

I wonder... would they have Krojaks? :smug:
 
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Krogansisters, are all men trash or have I just dated bad guys?

I wonder... would they have Krojaks? :smug:
I truly do love the little detail that Asari in general don't like dating Korgans since they are the only race that lives as long as them. Sure, can banging a guy for 50 years, no problem. 1000? No way! Who needs a baby daddy around for that long!?!?!
 
After seeing Andromeda, and especially DA:Veilguard, I don't think the theoretical Mass Effect 4 is even paying attention to. It's just going to defile what good remains of the franchise after the damage Andromeda already did.
Andromeda was one of my biggest gaming disappointments. It had a perfect premise! New galaxy, infinite possibilities, and as a bonus, they could have made an entirely fleshed out series about it without ever having to make one of the endings in Mass Effect 3 canon.

There couldn’t be a better premise for the continuation of the franchise. But the final product is a celebration of laziness and unreasonable budgetary constraints. I don’t personally care about quote/unquote “woke” shit. If they can do it in a way that works, put as much representation in there as you want. Like any other aspect of a story it’s either well written or it isn’t. And this wasn’t.

And because nobody making Andromeda seemed to take it seriously, the next game we get will probably make one of the three endings canon and be stuffed with references and fan-service, because there’s no way the company took the right lessons away from Andromeda’s failure.
you have Shepard being made into a weaker, PTSD ridden wreck, even though they were previously an unflinching badass whether Paragon or Renegade.
I actually give the game full marks for its depiction of anxiety. It should have been optional whether or not our individual Shepards had said anxiety in the first place, but the game managed to make me feel it. As hard as I sometimes am on the third game, it managed to evoke the basic emotions it needed to in order to get me invested.
 
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Zaeed is the best character in all of Mass Effect period. RIP Robin Sachs. It's a shame his DLC was so shit gameplay wise because every line of that goddamn bastard's dialogue is a goddamn gem.
Reposting this gem.


Is it worth buying the Legendary Edition just for the DLC? I have my old disks but they didn't include the DLC so I've never played any of them before.
Don't buy EA in general. You can find torrents for Legendary Edition and EA hasn't put out a patch for the game since release so they're the latest version that'll works with mods.
As for DLC, I'd say yes. There's a neat story in Bring Down the Sky in 1 that gets checked twice in 3. The guns like the Mattock and Arc Projector are starting gear in ME2LE. Plus there are mods to backport weapons from 3 into 2. There's even a heat-hybrid mechanic if you hate the heat sink reloading in 2. If you want to do another playthrough for the DLC, the LE is in a really good position right now.

What do you think Asari /pol/ would be like?
That's the Direct Democracy thing I think. If I recall, the Republics all vote in real time on issues via Extranet voting.
As for it's /pol/, it would be a mix of did nothing wrong posting about Ardat-Yakshi insisting that they're the pure-blooded Asari, horny posting over Justicars, other species like Salarians, Hanar and Humans insisting that they're the best species to mate with, comparing Krogans to Vorcha since they run together and Matriarch representatives insisting that "the foolishness of Human pronouns does not apply to the Asari."
 
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The worse Bioware gets, the more glad I am for M.E 3's positive moments because that game could have easily come out during this era and imagine the last of your epic space opera trilogy getting anally penetrated by Blackrock.

M.E 3's flaws are actual writing flaws instead of woke ones.

Veilguard's failure will ensure Bioware won't be around for Mass Effect 5, so I wouldn't worry too much.

Ehhhh I wouldnt bet on it. Bioware WILL perish but I think M.E 5 will need to legally happen beforehand. Dont be mistaken tho, they have an invisible guillotine over their necks and will be dropped if Veilguard fails that hard AND M.E 5 is a disaster too.

EA shut down studios for much much less.
These are the same faggots who think Hazbin hotel and Helluva boss have good writing because of overusing swearing and LGBT characters.

The best part is that they are all burning in Hell.
Dragon age pronouns went from having record low pre-orders to being in third place on the steam sales chart to currently having a record user decline on the daily player chart. Something suspicious and inorganic going on.

No cooking of the books at all. They totally havent shown in the past that they will literally mess with the numbers to own the chuds and please investors.
 
Andromeda was one of my biggest gaming disappointments. It had a perfect premise! New galaxy, infinite possibilities, and as a bonus, they could have made an entirely fleshed out series about it without ever having to make one of the endings in Mass Effect 3 canon.
Andromeda was Bioware's rare (dare I say unique) opportunity to course correct on the mistakes they made since ME2.
Instead we got this:

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The biggest issue to me was the way they handled the AI question. AI is seen as a danger by the Council races (for a good reason) and yet in ME:A the AI is at the core of each Ark and the Pathfinder (and his/her crew) have an AI implant in their heads. It's so fucked up. There's a quest related to the AI and at no point you are allowed to question its presence or ask to shut it down.
This also goes against what was established in ME2 (the Arks left during ME2) where EDI was the only AI and was kept secret.
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Andromeda was Bioware's rare (dare I say unique) opportunity to course correct on the mistakes they made since ME2.
I was just coming in here to ask if Andromeda, even with all the bad reviews, was worth playing if you really loved the original Mass Effect series. Your post answers that pretty conclusively.
 
Instead we got this:
The fuck am I looking at? Was that actually in the game?!

The biggest issue to me was the way they handled the AI question. AI is seen as a danger by the Council races (for a good reason) and yet in ME:A the AI is at the core of each Ark and the Pathfinder (and his/her crew) have an AI implant in their heads. It's so fucked up. There's a quest related to the AI and at no point you are allowed to question its presence or ask to shut it down.
Yeah, the entire point of the reapers was that they were keeping AI from wiping out all organic life, because that’s supposedly what happened with every civilization that existed before the reapers. What they should have done with Andromeda is show us what a galaxy without reapers would look like. More wasted opportunities.
 
I was just coming in here to ask if Andromeda, even with all the bad reviews, was worth playing if you really loved the original Mass Effect series. Your post answers that pretty conclusively.
You can play the game if you want, lol.
The fuck am I looking at? Was that actually in the game?!
Yep. The writers thought that it was funny to teach male krogans social interactions via in-universe pop-culture. The message on the log reminded me of the "teach men not to rape" schtick that feminists used to say at the time.
They have retconned a lot of things in ME:A despite that these people left the Milky Way during the events of ME2. The Asari for example are now a gendered species (with male or female pronouns), the Krogan have their females running around being mercenaries (yes, mercs) or leaders of packs, etc. They have fixed or toned down the effects of the genophage whilst the Krogans were in stasis because of course even if it doesn't make sense (in ME2 a Salarian was working on a cure but the Andromeda Initiative wouldn't know about this).
 
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