Orbiter Matthew Vickers / @MWV / ViciousVickers / Poor Yorick - Ex-coin merchant, bloodline gunted by Ethan Ralph. Fat cuckold who lost everything by trying to launch warfare against Ethan Ralph. Alleged rapist, proven cuckold, got mental damage from his wife's mean words. Cog paypig.

[AncientPhosphur]

I'm going to believe this when I see the paperwork signed. Vickers is notorius for taking a W and turning it into a huge L.

 

[Fornicario]

I'm going to believe this when I see the paperwork signed. Vickers is notorius for taking a W and turning it into a huge L.

Even if Ralph signs, Vickers is still the proud father who spent 60k to get rid of a deadbeat. No matter how he spins it, that's still a massive L. Harry spent far less for a much better outcome.

 

[AnOminous]

Shoutout to JackoVerde for sending me this

What an absolute fucking retard. If this is true, this is exactly the moment for him to shut his stupid cocksucking mouth.

 

[Sumptinsfuckey]

Imagine spending this much time trying to distract from the fact that it was your own poor job as a parent that allowed your mentally unbalanced kid to fall into Ralphs trotters in the first place, and failing entirely.

He can't help himself. Ralph 2 is worse than the Gunt, any Father worthy of the name would be mortified that they had failed so badly as a parent their daughter fled in the middle of the night to be Gunted, and when she returned (after a session in a psychiatric hospital where she talked about how much he used to abuse her) impregnated with a Guntling of her own, he would quietly try to put things right and make up for that failure in private.
Not Vickers, using the results of his bad parenting to cling on to any scraps of clout he can by his fingernails, and constantly poking the pig, making a very public show of himself, his daughter, and his whole family.

The Guntling isn't just proof of Vickers failure as a father, but as a person. Yes, it takes being a shitty father to raise a daughter like faith, but it takes being a fat, retarded, clout chasing, thin skinned, self important, spiteful faggot with no shame to raise a daughter that is even attracted to the Hollerin Hog. Faith, like all the daughters of shitty/absentee fathers, has daddy issues but its because Reethan reminded her so much of her daddy that she fell for his west memphis charms.

That is why Vegetative state Vickers really hates Ralph so much, and vice versa. They are each a mirror being held before the other, and neither can stand what he sees.

 

[Elmo]

How is Vickers supposed to "walk away" from all of this if he's still constantly in Cog's YT chat? It's not as though Cog is going to stop doing Ralph content. Vickers said that he's not chasing Internet clout and will just want to do his silly little gay Internet show "with his buddies" but that's not going to last for very long if he's still swinging from the chav's nutsack who has no other content other than the fatman.

Big X.

 

[LurkTrawl]

Seems the consensus is Vickers should've immediately thrown Xander off of the rooftop of the hospital when he was born.

 

[Septic Tank Bomber]

Ethan Ralph is a piece of shit.

Get a vasectomy. Spare your future children the life of disappointment, neglect, heartbreak, and psychological issues that being Ethan Ralph's child brings.

Vickers may be a dumb fuck; Faith's boyfriend is an unknown quantity; and Harry Morris got close to the edge from time to time, but each of them is more of a man than Ethan Ralph. Those men will, to whatever degree, be stepping in where Ethan, even more than his daddy before him, failed.

You have nothing to show for your life but destruction. Not one person on the entire planet is better for having known you. Failure.

He is the rALPHAmale with the mind of feral hog, his life goal is spreading his ralphaseed in as many women (willingly or not) as possible, each successful insemination is a Wto him regardless of consequences.

 

[Shush]

They are each a mirror being held before the other, and neither can stand what he sees.

 

[An automatic clown]

Drunk Ralph is best Ralph.

 

[Scout Trooper]

What an absolute fucking retard. If this is true, this is exactly the moment for him to shut his stupid cocksucking mouth.

It's a low-effort Inspect Element edit that people seem to be hellbent on falling for.

 

[Fornicario]

Drunk Ralph is best Ralph.View attachment 5198833

Oh good, I was afraid this week would be another snoozer. Things are looking up now that the retards are going gunted earth on each other.

 

[Balldo's Gate]

Drunk Ralph is best Ralph. View attachment 5198833

I mean I really hope for Vickers' sake that he discussed the making of this "offer" with an attorney.

As it turns out, sometimes in cases where it's perfectly legal to ask someone to do X, and it's perfectly legal to do Y, turning around and saying "Do X or I will do Y" may or may not be.

Vickers really should understand this: didn't he try to convince people that the diary thing was exactly that?

Does this cross a legal line? I have no idea. I definitely find it a little dubious that the Vickers tweet of the "offer" purported to involve allowing existing restraining orders to lapse.

The point of a restraining order is to protect people from being victimized by others. Vickers' tweet seemed to imply that he's using contempt proceedings as a legal cudgel to coerce Ralph to give up his legal rights as a parent. Vickers really should have thought about what the relevant judge(s) might think about this stupid game; it's not something that's going to look good the next time he waddles to the courthouse to file a contempt motion.

Like Ralph, he doesn't do well with long-term planning and probably wanted to puff his chest about "Team V" on Twitter. The question is whether Ralph will be able to take advantage of the opportunity Vickers has thrown into his lap.

It's a low-effort Inspect Element edit that people seem to be hellbent on falling for.

Are you sure? That sounds plausible, but I don't have any way of verifying your claim.

 

[AnOminous]

It's a low-effort Inspect Element edit that people seem to be hellbent on falling for.

And you checked it how?

Are you sure? That sounds plausible, but I don't have any way of verifying your claim.

Ralph is ragepigging about how he's not doing it anyway, surprising nobody. He's also obviously drunk even just typing.

 

[AncientPhosphur]

Drunk Ralph is best Ralph. View attachment 5198833

I knew it.

Vickers always manages to lose to a fat retard like Ethan Ralph somehow.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

It's a low-effort Inspect Element edit that people seem to be hellbent on falling for.

People posting fake shit for the lulz without any indication really should get the boot. It undermines the whole point of the site.

 

[A_right_horrorshow]

So even if Ralph does sign, the only real winners here will be the lawyers and court that burned through nearly sixty grand of this dipshits savings before he started filing his own documents in crayon.

 

[Sewer Rat]

So even if Ralph does sign, the only real winners here will be the lawyers and court that burned through nearly sixty grand of this dipshits savings before he started filing his own documents in crayon.

if Ralph ends up eating a bullet I will concede total victory to Vickers

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

turning around and saying "Do X or I will do Y" may or may not be

Correct.

Vickers' tweet seemed to imply that he's using contempt proceedings as a legal cudgel to coerce Ralph to give up his legal rights as a parent.

Which one?

It is possible to exercise your legal rights (or tell someone you're going to), and then to propose a different resolution. But stating, "if you don't do X that I'm not entitled to, I will do Y" is not a smart way to phrase anything.

Spoiler: Technicals

"The criminal act element required for extortion is typically the theft of property accomplished by a threat to cause future harm to the victim, including the threat to inflict bodily injury, accuse anyone of committing a crime, or reveal a secret that would expose the victim to hatred, contempt, or ridicule (Ga. Code § 16-8-16, 2011). The Model Penal Code criminalizes theft by extortion when the defendant obtains property of another by threatening to inflict bodily injury on anyone, commit any criminal offense, accuse anyone of a criminal offense, expose any secret tending to subject any person to hatred, contempt, or ridicule or impair his credit and business repute, take or withhold action as an official, bring about a strike or boycott, testify with respect to another’s legal claim, or inflict any other harm that would not benefit the actor (Model Penal Code § 223.4). Note that some of these acts could be legal, as long as they are not performed with the unlawful intent to steal."

https://open.lib.umn.edu/criminallaw/chapter/11-2-extortion-robbery-and-receiving-stolen-property/#:~:text=The%20criminal%20act%20element%20required%20for%20extortion%20is%20typically%20the,contempt%2C%20or%20ridicule%20(Ga.

Key element: intent to steal/gain a legal right you don't already have. So "if you don't agree to [contract term], I will bring an action unrelated to the subject of the potential contract" = not ok. But "if you don't do what [court order] requires you to do, I will exercise my legal rights under that order" = likely OK. Affirmative defense to assertion of extortion is good-faith belief that whatever the other person does/does not do gives rise to a legal claim. That doesn't apply to trying to force an agreement beyond what you have a legal right to require.

Tl;dr: Vickers should shut up and disconnect blabbing about or trying to use what he wants (EOR giving up parental rights) from what rights he currently has (enforcement of existing orders).

The question is whether Ralph will be able to take advantage of the opportunity Vickers has thrown into his lap.

It's only speculation whether Vickers has actually overstepped.

But in the end, does Ralph actually even want anything to with/any responsibility of any kind for Xander? Any "ownership" (parental) right has a corresponding obligation. That Ralph even entertained this concept suggests strongly he is at best neutral about Xander.

If these two dumb fucks would set aside their emotions and pride and "winning," they might reach a reasonable outcome. But because both lead with their (real and metaphorical) dicks and ids and egos, they will likely just keep the clan feud going forever. Which most hurts exactly one person: an innocent toddler who didn't ask for and doesn't deserve this garbage.

Both men need bitch-slapping/engaged lawyers who try to guide their clients to liveable, workable resolutions to thorny emotional issues. If past events are predictors of future performance, these asshats will just make the whole thing as dysfunctional and protracted as possible, whatever the resolution.

 

[AnOminous]

It is possible to exercise your legal rights (or tell someone you're going to), and then to propose a different resolution. But stating, "if you don't do X that I'm not entitled to, I will do Y" is not a smart way to phrase anything.

This is why you actually have lawyers draft extortionate threats like this so that they're not extortionate on paper. But don't hire Michael Avenatti for this kind of thing. He's terrible at it.

Not that you can, seeing as he's disbarred and in prison for doing such a thing terribly.

 

[Fannyscum]

A little context for the sake of future reading: Vickers offered Ralph the opportunity to sign away his parental rights in exchange for dropping all current and future legal matters. Ralph has publicly turned down this offer, so Vickers is spergggggggggging on Twitter:




Ralph is apparently crying in DM's that he still wants the paper abortion:






Ralph is letting FaiFai have a piece of his mind via the Co-Parenting app:





Ralph in DMs flexing another man's wealth:





Vickers finally gets around to watching Ralph passing out on stream today:






Blah blah fuckin blah: