Orbiter Matthew Vickers / @MWV / ViciousVickers / Poor Yorick - Ex-coin merchant, bloodline gunted by Ethan Ralph. Fat cuckold who lost everything by trying to launch warfare against Ethan Ralph. Alleged rapist, proven cuckold, got mental damage from his wife's mean words. Cog paypig.

[Johnny Clyde Cash]

This page might explain some of what's going on here.

In California, if you are ignorant of the name or identity of a defendant, you may still name that defendant in your complaint by naming him as a “Doe” (as in John Doe).

This is allowed by Code of Civil Procedure 474. [CCP 474].

This can be a very useful tool. For example, even in a rear-end car crash case where the injured person knows the name of the driver, it is often prudent to add some DOE defendants. If it is later discovered that the defendant was driving another person’s car at the time of the car accident, the plaintiff can amend the complaint to replace DOE 1 with the name of the car’s owner.

Through this legal fiction, the car owner has been a party to the case from the beginning, only no one knew his name.

There are of course many complexities involved with adding DOE defendants, and a lawyer should always be consulted before attempting it.

Of course, none of this changes the root of the issue, which is that the Vickers trash fire lawsuit is going to be dragging in more people, and as of yet, it isn't clear who exactly Vickers thinks is an accessory.


lol Torta Feaser

 

[Neetorino]

Vickers is somehow convinced this is a novel application of class action law. It's about the only logical conclusion I have. Any attempt to reconcile otherwise causes my brain to melt.


Shitlist? This is a PAIDLIST. Ralph and anyone lucky enough to be roped into this has a slam-dunk countersuit. Vickers wouldn't be able to discharge it, and he has tangible assets to attach. This is a fucking W if you can stand three months' worth of scrutiny from the sektur.

I mean it's true, I've never heard of a class action lawsuit where it's just a guy trying to sue a whole class of people. Vickers pulled the 'ol Uno Reverse on them A-logs to harass them all at once in the Court 'o Law.
I can't imagine this being read by a California court clerk with even a quarter brain cell left to activate and not being thrown promptly into the shredder. He'd actually be better off filing the 50 lawsuits against those Xitter fags one by one when he "gets their dox outta Ralph in discovery" than going this route. I'm still baffled on how the 50 Does aren't just gonna be dropped for inability to serve.

Although if he names their accounts and they go Xeeting about it like fat retards it might be more difficult to get out of it.

This will either be a very long or very short chapter in the history books of Internet faggotry. I can't wait to see which it is!

 

[break these cuffs]

This page might explain some of what's going on here.



Of course, none of this changes the root of the issue, which is that the Vickers trash fire lawsuit is going to be dragging in more people, and as of yet, it isn't clear who exactly Vickers thinks is an accessory.

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lol Torta Feaser

That's all well and good, but the story we're being fed is that these as of yet unknown parties can be added for additional causes of action not already in the suit. I don't buy that shit for a second. You can't sue Ralph for calling you a pedo, find out in discovery from twitter DMs that Esofaggy registered the url MatthewVickersRapedAndMurderedAYoungGirlIn1990.com and add him to the suit for that. He asserts specific thing(s) caused him harm. He can't just say shit he didn't know about caused that harm as well when he finds out they happened.

At least I hope not or our legal system is well fucked beyond what I thought.

 

[Captain Manning]

This page might explain some of what's going on here.



Of course, none of this changes the root of the issue, which is that the Vickers trash fire lawsuit is going to be dragging in more people, and as of yet, it isn't clear who exactly Vickers thinks is an accessory.

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Right, but in the above example, there is actually a car crash. A articulatable act occurred that leads to the tort. One that any prospective plaintiff should be able to point to.

What Vickers seems to be hoping is he can sue Ralph and then, in the course of discovery, it turns out that in some Discord or Twitter DM somewhere NiggerFaggot1488 called him a fag, AnimeGirl420 says he's a furry, and ILikeCheese1337 says he molested Faith. Whereupon he can designate them as Does 1-3. I don't think it works like that.

But again, I'm fairly confident @AnOminous will be along shorty to shit all over what the Anus guy is saying.

 

[Balldo's Gate]

This page might explain some of what's going on here.

Yes, I said this in chat earlier but apparently there is actually an insane sounding procedural quirk unique to California where you can name Does in your pleadings and effectively decide retroactively who they refer to later, as an end run around statues of limitations.

Fair enough.

It looks like the statutes of limitations on the IIED would be 2 years, and for the defamation, it's just one year.

What Vickers seems to be hoping is he can sue Ralph, and then in the course of discovery it turns out that in some Discord somewhere, NiggerFaggot1488 called him a fag, AnimeGirl420 says he's a furry, and ILikeCheese1337 says he molested Faith, and then he can designate them as Does 1-3. I don't think it works like that.

But again, I'm fairly confident @AnOminous will be along shorty to shit all over what the Anus guy is saying.

Based on what I've looked up, there are three requirements Vickers would need to clear to amend the complaint to turn one of the John Does into a named defendant.

1. The first is that the amended complaint must rely on the "same general set of facts" as the original.
2. He would also have to have been unaware of the either the identity of the John Doe or the facts that made them liable.
3. Finally, Vickers would have to have stated a valid cause of action against the now-identified Doe in his original complaint (so at least one of defamation, IIED, and negligence).

I don't really know what that Vickers is angling for in this case, because all of his claims involve statements Ralph made. I am guessing that the idea may be to rope in any people who made claims substantially similar to what Ralph said and argue that it refers to the same general set of facts?

Alternatively, the idea may be to find out through discovery who Ralph was talking to on Twitter and drag them into the suit retroactively. But for that, Vickers would have to have a valid cause of action for either defmation, IIED, or negligence.

In other words, it turns out that naming John Does 1-50 without identifying who they are isn't worthy of being deemed a lolsuit in and of itself. What makes this a lolsuit is that Vickers wants to reserve the right to sue up to 50 anonymous Internet users for making him seethe so hard it caused neurological damage.

 

[Captain Manning]

I don't really know what that Vickers is angling for in this case, because all of his claims involve statements Ralph made. I am guessing that the idea may be to rope in any people who made claims substantially similar to what Ralph said and argue that it refers to the same general set of facts?

I'm not even sure he can do that. I think that would still require two or more different causes of action. I think the individual would have to be somehow relevant to the specific claims he's alleging against Ralph. Like, in the example cited a few posts back, the driver of the car that rear-ended you is not the owner of the car but the case stems from the same wreck. Like maybe somebody furnishing Ralph with the means to do the alleged IIED.

I think he's an idiot, quite frankly. I wouldn't really try to put too much brain power into this. I certainly don't think he did. He seems to be going out of his way to embracing the vexatious litigant appellation. Which means he sucks. He should just act his goddamned age and help raise his grandchild. Not continue to get into slapfights with the gunt, of all people. This is ridiculous.

 

[Fornicario]

procedural quirk unique to California where you can name Does in your pleadings and effectively decide retroactively who they refer to later, as an end run around statues of limitations.

With the robust financial tricks of the movie industry, it allows a case to proceed while finding out who owned finance company A who ripped off studio B while the money's hot.

 

[gaystoner]

Following Vickers means you're endangering your family.

 

[break these cuffs]

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Following Vickers means you're endangering your family.

Vickers manages to be as histrionic as a tranny.

 

[Procrastinhater]

Even a restaurant will tell you to go fuck yourself if you try to reserve the entire restaurant for 50 people who might or might not show up.

I was just about to @ you to ask you of that's even how this shit works because that just seems... insane to me.
Vickers seems to have gotten his idea of how this works from a combination of LA Law like Fatrick and Scooby-Doo re runs.
Can you just claim 50 Does that may or may not exist just in case?

As far as if he went after any users here, well like I said before

I've been positively polite about this Grandson Pimping, let's his daughter get fingerbanged by Mexicans, lying, Nick Bate Tooth having fat faggot with bitch tits so far, if he's dumb enough to try and go after users here I'll definitely throw into a war chest.
That shit with hiring out Xanders time to annoy Ralph is just fucking scummy.
That's a fucking innocent kid that never asked to be born to these retards, I'm not surprised considering how Faith turned out but still.
Fuck Fat Matt Vickers.

 

[Estate]

A year or more ago, almost everyone on this board would've agreed that of the two demon babies, the spawn of the pedo horse would be the worse off. How naive we were. We truly underestimated the californian brain rot.
I guess only in hindsight do we fully comprehend that life is stranger then fiction.

 

[PHILLIP BANKS]

Ethan ralph and him should box. Both take three fiddy home

 

[Carl Smallwang]

Vickers is now suing 50 random internet people because he posts online in public places for all to see about how much of a dumpster fire his family is

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What does this dumb nigger hope to achieve here? The only person worse than him in this instance is the noseburg who convinced him to file this dollar bill fueled funeral pyre.

 

[UCantCCPMe]

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Following Vickers means you're endangering your family.

"Alright random John Doe, you just made The List"

https://youtu.be/CJtD953hrxc?si=GhKkbvSN-8gzIXVO

 

[Roboute Guilliman]

Vickers and Fuentes are the only two people who can make me root for Ralph.

 

[fedoralordjish]

oy vey, dear vicky what have you done.

don't ask for my alfredo sauce i'm just the avian carrier

 

[MeltyTW]

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Following Vickers means you're endangering your family.

cool new CONSEQUENCES and CUTTING DOWN THE INTERNET tier copypasta to post to any new follower you get. also nice racializing with the phrase white trash. very professional start to a totally serious lawsuit. its what you do, you scream to someone who followed you on twitter and you call them racial insults and you win.

 

[AltisticRight]

Haven't seen this posted yet, but apparently Vickers' gaytur, the anus man, explained the 50 does after Daddy Jim Metokur had some questions about it:

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Apparently Vickers thinks the law works like booking a table at a restaurant for extra people just in case, at least according to the ass.

>Supena
Grate legale council you got their, Vikers.

Vickers manages to be as histrionic as a tranny.

>as

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Apparently Vickers thinks the law works like booking a table at a restaurant for extra people just in case, at least according to the ass.

It's not a super outlandish theory. Avellone sued 100 does none of which manifested, IIRC, but he did so because of some weird local rules regarding adding of new defendants, IIRC. Regardless, he won, lost on appeal due to jurisdictional grounds, resued, and got six figure settlement and a retraction. Thread.

 

[Empire]

Some person asks Vickers if he thinks this is a good idea

And in true Vickers fashion he writes an essay which is crying about people posting his lawsuit outta context and claims people like @fedoralordjish are posting out of context paragraphs, that your all uneducated and not lawyers like him or his lawyer (Patrick Michael Fahey*) and of course for the high crime of calling him out for selling his grandson to pedophile @Elric of Melnibone for a day to use as a "prop" (read living flesh light) with his lolicon loving cohost.

Spoiler: New copy pasta

But see, everyone would know if: 1) They had any education or experience being involved in a lawsuit. The first and only time I was sued, the attorney filing the papers listed DOES 1-100. My attorney sued the opposing party and DOES 1-50. There was no internet shit involved in that suit. It's about unknown people who may have willingly participated in an actual tort. 2) If they had read the entire complaint, instead of posting two paragraphs out of context. No worries, I'll be taking care of that on Friday. 3) They just DM'd me and asked. Simple. The narrative that I'm suing 50 random people because "they mean" is legitimately fucking r*tarded. There's no other way to phrase it. Fucks sake, it's not even possible. I'm suing Ralph. ONLY if Ralph tries to throw someone under the bus and has proof that the other person was complicit or responsible for an actual, tortious crime could they even be sued. If they couldn't, and he still throws some people under the bus with a dox, it's not going to be public record. Overall, what I find most concerning is that people are raged the fuck out about fake tales of big bad Vickers going after anonymity, but no one seems concerned about the fake pedophile shit being flung at
@GeniusAnus
and
@AkibaInsomnia
. The biggest singular problem with this "corner" of the internet is the loose use of pedophile accusations. It does more harm than good, and ultimately benefits ACTUAL pedophiles, who can hide behind, "look here, everyone gets called a pedophile." The only reason I'm bothering with you right now is because overall, I like you. Take it for what you will.

Edit to clarify: I assume spedtree is his lawyer but this sounds nearly too retarded even for specktree so it's very possible that his lawyer is just himself, Matthew William Vickers attorney at law