Orbiter Matthew Vickers / @MWV / ViciousVickers / Poor Yorick - Ex-coin merchant, bloodline gunted by Ethan Ralph. Fat cuckold who lost everything by trying to launch warfare against Ethan Ralph. Alleged rapist, proven cuckold, got mental damage from his wife's mean words. Cog paypig.

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What caused Vickers' crazy eyes?

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Not gonna lie, it's unsettled me some of the ways Matt spoke about Xander. He resents the fuck out of that baby. What I don't get is that if they had all this money to buy consoles and VR shit for people, why didn't they just pay to get an abortion. Especially with the protective order, Faith could have claimed her life was in danger, and got it done even up to viability from my understanding of Cali abortion law. Viggers could have even just on paper kicked her out so Faifai could claim she was homeless and get it all done for free.
Mark my words, something is going to happen to that baby if Matthew Vickers is involved with Xander. Maybe that's why what's her face is divorcing him? Wouldn't put it passed Matthew to wallop Xander if he was being fussy while he was trying to play whatever Disney cellphone gatcha game is popular now.
Faith didn’t want an abortion. She was determined to have a baby, even if it was the Gunt’s. I think she saw a baby as her ticket out of her parent’s house, like marriage was for a teen in the 1950’s. All she needed was a sperm donor and Ralph obliged.

It worked, having Xander got her a move into her grandma’s hours away in LA. Getting knocked up finally got her out of the Vicker’s foreclosed house. One could argue college or job training would have been the smarter path but she wanted out of the Vickers house asap and didn’t want to be their nanny.

I do now 100% believe was forced to be a full time nanny for her younger siblings. This is why her parents were so angry about her leaving, she was their childcare provider. If you force a teen into a mom role for years don’t be surprised if she just decides she’d rather have her own baby than take care of others. The way welfare benefits work having a kid can get them pseudo-independence. They can rely on the govt to survive instead of mom and dad. (In the projects having a baby gets a girl her own hood rat nest)
 
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It worked, having Xander got her a move into her grandma’s hours away in LA. Getting knocked up finally got her out of the Vicker’s foreclosed house. One could argue college or job training would have been the smarter path but she wanted out of the Vickers house asap and didn’t want to be their nanny.
Faith living at her grandmother's was their story. I'm not convinced it ever worked if it was her plan. It was something like 6 months, maybe a year, before more and more social media evidence of Faith being around began cropping up. I remember a picture of Xander at the Vickers' house, Faith posting about homeschooling her brothers, Fatt was constantly making posts about how much he enjoyed spending time with Faith and her molester #believeallwomen, and he was talking about how much he was enjoying being around Lil' Xannie. Sure some of this could be done over video and some could be lies, but then there were the swattings that Faith was there for. She supposedly lived hours away at this time. Does she even have a driver's license let alone a car?

Maybe Faith did live at gram's for a year before gram couldn't stand her being around anymore. I genuinely think that was a lie because the VIckers are lying liars who lie and they're also lolcows who are extremely inept at 4D chess.
 
Faith, being both nominally Christian conservative and desperate to be a mother, did not want to get an abortion. Infamously in leaked texts, Ralph tried to convince her indirectly to do it, but she declined. I am sure Matt has basically the same beliefs on abortion.
I seem to recall a text exchange between Faith and Ralph someone could probably look through those to validate this, where she had just went back to California and she told Ralph in a panic that Matthew wanted her to give up Xander for adoption. Whether that means he is against abortion too or it could be that he floated the idea of abortion but she said no.

I would imagine Ariana put a stop to the adoption talk.

Faith living at her grandmother's was their story. I'm not convinced it ever worked if it was her plan. It was something like 6 months, maybe a year, before more and more social media evidence of Faith being around began cropping up. I remember a picture of Xander at the Vickers' house, Faith posting about homeschooling her brothers, Fatt was constantly making posts about how much he enjoyed spending time with Faith and her molester #believeallwomen, and he was talking about how much he was enjoying being around Lil' Xannie. Sure some of this could be done over video and some could be lies, but then there were the swattings that Faith was there for. She supposedly lived hours away at this time. Does she even have a driver's license let alone a car?

Maybe Faith did live at gram's for a year before gram couldn't stand her being around anymore. I genuinely think that was a lie because the VIckers are lying liars who lie and they're also lolcows who are extremely inept at 4D chess.
We know Faith was living with them when they got swatted so she moved in with grandma sometime after that.
 
We know Faith was living with them when they got swatted so she moved in with grandma sometime after that.
They talked about Faith living hours away with grandma some time after she got settled back in California. It was the same thing Harry did talking about how there was family ready to take in Meigh when it was obvious she was going to be living at home because how many extended family members want to take in the fuck up black sheep with a baby in tow who has internet trolls fucking with her? The swattings were in 2022. I don't remember them claiming she lived with grandma after the swattings, but I guess they could have.
 
Faith living at her grandmother's was their story. I'm not convinced it ever worked if it was her plan. It was something like 6 months, maybe a year, before more and more social media evidence of Faith being around began cropping up. I remember a picture of Xander at the Vickers' house, Faith posting about homeschooling her brothers, Fatt was constantly making posts about how much he enjoyed spending time with Faith and her molester #believeallwomen, and he was talking about how much he was enjoying being around Lil' Xannie. Sure some of this could be done over video and some could be lies, but then there were the swattings that Faith was there for. She supposedly lived hours away at this time. Does she even have a driver's license let alone a car?

Maybe Faith did live at gram's for a year before gram couldn't stand her being around anymore. I genuinely think that was a lie because the VIckers are lying liars who lie and they're also lolcows who are extremely inept at 4D chess.
You are probably right. Faith likely doesn’t live with grandma in LA, that was a cover story. She might have stayed/visited for a period of time, but nothing more.

If she doesn’t live with her parents, she probably got a HUD voucher/waiver for her own place in Nevada County. The waitlists for that shit are years long in Los Angeles. Much easier to be a single mom on welfare in Nevada County.

If I’m not mistaken Ralph has had to go to Nevada County everytime to visit Xander. It would be way more convenient for everyone to do it in LA if she actually lived there. The boyfriend she has is also local to Nevada County so there is no way she would live hours away from him. Nothing more important to Faith than a boyfriend.

The Vickers wouldn’t want Faith and Xander’s location known for obvious reasons, but besides that they wouldn’t want it known she’s the single mom on welfare everyone predicted. Even better if she moved her boyfriend into her govt subsidized housing to mark off another important box on the single mom check list.

It also explains them weirdly backing down from forcing Gunt to turnover finances and agreeing to $800 a month child support, when they should have gotten more. States put limits on the welfare benefits you can get according to income. $800 a month would ensure she still qualifies for all the gibs California has to offer - medi-cal, max food stamps, housing, daycare waivers, job/school grants, etc…If her monthly income on paper is $800 then California will basically cover all her and Xander’s necessities. I have a suspicion that the Vickers family knows a lot about qualifying for gibs.

CA also used income based housing formula, so your rent is a percentage of your income. At $800 a month Faith would only have to pay like $120 a month rent for a HUD rental or low income govt apartment.

I know she’s done videos but assumed she was in a distinct place from the Vickers but I have no idea.

Curious if she’s living with her parents or just locally. It would really suck to be stuck living with her toddler, in a house being foreclosed upon, with divorcing parents plus four younger brothers. What a clusterfuck. She’d be fucked if she didn’t already get that single mom govt subsidized apartment.
 
Faith living at her grandmother's was their story. I'm not convinced it ever worked if it was her plan. It was something like 6 months, maybe a year, before more and more social media evidence of Faith being around began cropping up. I remember a picture of Xander at the Vickers' house, Faith posting about homeschooling her brothers, Fatt was constantly making posts about how much he enjoyed spending time with Faith and her molester #believeallwomen, and he was talking about how much he was enjoying being around Lil' Xannie. Sure some of this could be done over video and some could be lies, but then there were the swattings that Faith was there for. She supposedly lived hours away at this time. Does she even have a driver's license let alone a car?

Maybe Faith did live at gram's for a year before gram couldn't stand her being around anymore. I genuinely think that was a lie because the VIckers are lying liars who lie and they're also lolcows who are extremely inept at 4D chess.
They were saying she lived with grandma before the first swatting for which she was conveniently present. I see so many parallels between Vickers and Fatrick, it wouldn’t shock me to discover Vickers bailed because he was someone’s second biggest customer. Just speculation and far fetched, but it wouldn’t surprise me.
 
Recently a friend of ours passed on to that big anime dungeon in the sky. No, I don't mean Jim, although I'm sure he's not far behind. In remembrance of the honorable Mr. Toriyama, a man who inspired screaming 9-year-olds and countless pages of coomer material, I would like to offer a thought.

Imagine this, Matt Buu attempts to use his lawsuit beam on Gunt Buu and Gunt Buu just blows it back at him, turning Matt Buu into a Matt Buu shaped log of shit, which Gunt Buu devours to become Super Gunt Buu.

 
They talked about Faith living hours away with grandma some time after she got settled back in California. It was the same thing Harry did talking about how there was family ready to take in Meigh when it was obvious she was going to be living at home because how many extended family members want to take in the fuck up black sheep with a baby in tow who has internet trolls fucking with her? The swattings were in 2022. I don't remember them claiming she lived with grandma after the swattings, but I guess they could have.
she was there with Xander during the first swatting, so it’s possible she was just visiting because the parents were on a trip when the swatting happened and they announced it on Twitter which is when everyone told them to fuck off and stop tweeting about where they are
 
I do now 100% believe was forced to be a full time nanny for her younger siblings. This is why her parents were so angry about her leaving, she was their childcare provider.
Her parents had Swingers meetings to attend.

Faith should have been more understanding of this and not so selfish.
 
Vicker's co-host in the Kino Casino's chat 2 days ago.
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Also while I'm listening to Persip talking to Dick about Vickers, he reminds me of something. Back in July 2023, Mrs. Vickers had a weight-loss surgery.
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I'm not sure if this is relevant to the conversation, but I feel like it's worth mentioning for the completionist who wants to keep track of Vickers's expenses.
 
While I find the idea that Ralph caused the ruination the Vickers clan humorous, that isn't the case. White trash is always white trash. Vickers was going to end up here whether the thumbing happened or not.

Poor people are scum. They can't rise above their lot. To expect otherwise is fantasy. The only merciful thing to do for the poor is to deport them. But instead, we allow them to pollute our society with their lifestyle choice to remain poor.

At least Ralph had the decency to move to Meheeco.
 
Vicker's co-host in the Kino Casino's chat 2 days ago.
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Also while I'm listening to Persip talking to Dick about Vickers, he reminds me of something. Back in July 2023, Mrs. Vickers had a weight-loss surgery.
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I'm not sure if this is relevant to the conversation, but I feel like it's worth mentioning for the completionist who wants to keep track of Vickers's expenses.
I’m sure Medi-Cal paid for Mrs Vicker’s weight loss surgery. Doesn’t she claim to be disabled by fibromyalgia? Maybe losing a bunch of weight finally gave her the energy to dump Matt.

Of course she will gain back any weight she loses within four years and then demand tax payer funded Omzepic
 
Can someone ELI5 the whole Thor loan thing? I've reread previous posts and Googled how Thor works but I still cannot parse out why what they do isn't considered a loan. Yes, they are basing the "loan" on daily receipts that are paid daily, but money is given in advance of payment in all loans that are secured by property or receipts. How do they jigger this exchange of money now for payment later so that it is not a loan?
 
Can someone ELI5 the whole Thor loan thing? I've reread previous posts and Googled how Thor works but I still cannot parse out why what they do isn't considered a loan. Yes, they are basing the "loan" on daily receipts that are paid daily, but money is given in advance of payment in all loans that are secured by property or receipts. How do they jigger this exchange of money now for payment later so that it is not a loan?
I do not know the legalese behind it, but when I looked it up after learning about Thor my understanding is this: it is legally more like buying an interest in a company and sharing the profit than a loan and there is very little regulation surrounding this type of not loan. I'm sure it barely skirts around the legal definition of a loan by not having loan term lengths, not charging term based interest, or whatever. They're essentially saying "I'm buying $X of interest in your business until you pay $Y amount of profit back".

I have neither a law or finance degree, and I don't posses the vast financial and legal acumen that guys like Vickers obtain by going hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt.
 
I do not know the legalese behind it, but when I looked it up after learning about Thor my understanding is this: it is legally more like buying an interest in a company and sharing the profit than a loan and there is very little regulation surrounding this type of not loan. I'm sure it barely skirts around the legal definition of a loan by not having loan term lengths, not charging term based interest, or whatever. They're essentially saying "I'm buying $X of interest in your business until you pay $Y amount of profit back".

I have neither a law or finance degree, and I don't posses the vast financial and legal acumen that guys like Vickers obtain by going hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt.
You've got most of the front end. The back end is very sketchy. It's closer to a revenue swap to a loan (Your next x days' operating revenue is mine, while I give you y up front). In the world of commercial banking, this is nothing.

Where the fuckery begins is: As a revenue swap, there is no loan standards to it. No doubt Vickers cooked his books. Thor figures Matty will pay or his assets are theirs, and I bet there's a lot on the inventory he submitted to Thor that doesn't exist. Also with a revenue swap, there is no identification of where the actual money came from.

Thor's investors will not be appearing on the cover of GQ. Their tattoos would clash. By structuring these loans as swaps, there are no KYC requirements on investing below a certain dollar amount, while the disbursements from Thor are perfectly legal. Hence the daily remittance. Does this sound like money laundering? You bet, young kiwi. Perceptive as always.

This is why Thor is a very bad place to borrow money from. Thor's investors will not take a loss by filing a lawsuit. So, Matty is in for a ride worthy of a 90's television movie plot.
 
Just as an aside, why do people continue to fuck around with the IRS? I know it's a massive bureaucracy and it might take a long time for the Eye of Sauron to fall upon you, but c'mon. If Al Capone, Redd Foxx, Willie Nelson, and Wesley Snipes all got gaped, you're not gonna fare any better.
 
Just as an aside, why do people continue to fuck around with the IRS? I know it's a massive bureaucracy and it might take a long time for the Eye of Sauron to fall upon you, but c'mon. If Al Capone, Redd Foxx, Willie Nelson, and Wesley Snipes all got gaped, you're not gonna fare any better.
Because these are niggers or nigger tier idiots. If something doesn’t immediately hurt them they assume they can go on forever. The IRS showing up in five years is literally actually inconceivable to them.
 
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