Prison Letters May 11, 2022 - Chris writes letter trying to shift blame to Barb

[GwynLordOfDrip]

Is anyone else shocked we've not seen any other letters yet? It's been 27 days since he sent this one and apart from the nut house this is the longest he's been radio silent for since all this started.

From the look on Chris’s recent mugshot, I don’t think he’s in the mood for anymore letters aside from the initial one after his release from the nuthouse.

 

[Big Buns]

Is anyone else shocked we've not seen any other letters yet? It's been 27 days since he sent this one and apart from the nut house this is the longest he's been radio silent for since all this started.

I don't think it'll be long before we get another but maybe his attorney got through to him (a bit) after the last one.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

This whole thing has made me wonder... does Chris really have a concept of morality in any conventional sense?

First, let me be absolutely clear. Nothing could ever make what he did okay. Chris is a literal motherfucker and almost certainly a rapist. He belongs either in jail or the nut house, I don't really care which at this point. However.

Chris understands cause and effect... barely. Touch a hot stove, get burned. Feed the trolls, get trolled. But it took him YEARS to get to that point. This is what Chris understands. "Touching the stove when the red light is on gives my finger prickly wicklies. Every time, apparently. I don't understand the strange magic behind these events, but now after the tenth trip to urgent care I guess I'll try NOT touching the stove when the red light is on and see what happens."

The usual response I see to this is, well, he tried to hide his motherfuckery, so he must have known it was wrong. I'm not so sure. Chris understands CONSEQUENCES, but again... just barely. He doesn't understand the REASONING behind rules and norms, he just eventually starts to notice patterns that certain actions lead to bad outcomes for him. If you taser him enough times for shitting his pants at McDonald's, he'll eventually stop shitting his pants at McDonald's, but he'll still shit his pants at Burger King.

Now imagine his sped brain applying that mentality to something as complex as sex. Now you might say... not doing an incest is pretty basic and easy to understand. But I think you're underestimating just how short of a bus Chris rode to school. Remember his reaction when ShecameforCWC.JPG was discovered? Megan just didn't GET it. I don't think Chris understands sex at all beyond "a thing that adults are supposed to do". (ETA: Which is not to say he doesn't have biological urges, but that's different from understanding them.)

I propose that Chris is JUST smart enough to know that other people have a problem with incest, and so he tried to hide it, but he genuinely doesn't understand why it's bad. He really thinks it's just da trolls and haters trying to stop his new love quest.

TLDR: I strongly suspect the beginning and end of morality for Chris is that things he likes are good, and things he doesn't like are bad. Anybody who disputes his behavior just doesn't fully appreciate his specialness. Without exaggeration, he is literally not capable of understanding anything more complex. He's that fucking stupid.

 

[Ophelia]

Didn't Chris actually ask Barb to put him out of his virgin-with-rage misery at some point after Bob died, and she said no?

I think you’re thinking of someone else. I can’t remember his name, but he’s another infamous cest cow.

Being Barb's caregiver makes Chris liable for an extra duty of care. The fact that he was responsible for her well-being makes it easier to prove rape.

But why hasn’t he been charged with it? I honestly wonder.

Chris Chan should be charged with a felony simply for the fact that it is just not plausible for him to ever get a job.

What country do you live in where being unable or unwilling to work is a felony?

 

[Cheerlead-in-Chief]

I think you’re thinking of someone else. I can’t remember his name, but he’s another infamous cest cow.

Marjan
He also had an account in his own thread as well, but I forgot the username.

 

[Gig Bucking Fun]

Imagine writing a letter accusing the victim of your sexual assault when you’ve already been convicted

 

[Ophelia]

Marjan
He also had an account in his own thread as well, but I forgot the username.

I thought it was “Holden,” but maybe not.

Imagine writing a letter accusing the victim of your sexual assault when you’ve already been convicted

Keep imagining until Chris has been convicted.

 

[A-№1]

does Chris really have a concept of morality in any conventional sense?

On the Kohlberg Scale of Moral Development, Chris is is firmly at Stage Zero. When faced with, for example, the Heinz Dilemma, Chris would shit himself and do nothing.

Before anyone can have any sort of moral standard for dealing with other people, they first have to see them as, well, people. Chris doesn't.

But why hasn’t he been charged with it? I honestly wonder.

Chris was only Barb's 'caregiver' by default, never officially.

What country do you live in where being unable or unwilling to work is a felony?

I'm guessing Oceania.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

A tard home with a tall fence far away from Ruckersville is a better solution. And cheaper. Also Chris would have to pay for it himself from his tugboat, not the taxpayer.

Taxpayers pay for the tugboat too, it's just shifting the burden from Virginia taxpayers to US taxpayers as a whole. It being cheaper is still a valid point though.

I propose that Chris is JUST smart enough to know that other people have a problem with incest, and so he tried to hide it, but he genuinely doesn't understand why it's bad. He really thinks it's just da trolls and haters trying to stop his new love quest.

I mean, ultimately incest being illegal (as opposed to inbreeding) stems out of our disgust of it. It's the same reason we'd ban a business where people served sterilized urine to willing customers. There's not much wrong with it on a strictly utilitarian level, it's just fucking disgusting.

So Chris, in parroting arguments from other deviants against banning incest, actually has a valid point.

From that position, if we put aside our disgust, our criticism of Chris would be left with if he had been coercing Barb in any way. While this is a very real possibility, I am not convinced, given what a deranged whore Barb is.

That said, Chris' impulsiveness and lack of understanding of human dynamics leads him to completely misunderstand that even if you think something is unjust, you still have to take the consequences. That's how civil disobedience works.

TLDR: I strongly suspect the beginning and end of morality for Chris is that things he likes are good, and things he doesn't like are bad. Anybody who disputes his behavior just doesn't fully appreciate his specialness. Without exaggeration, he is literally not capable of understanding anything more complex. He's that fucking stupid.

Chris is also able to make some moral judgements, they're just colored by his desires, impulsiveness, and willingness to twist his justifications after the fact. He was "forced" to deface the Sonic merchandise because justice demanded it. He would be morally in the wrong if he failed to fight the evil blarms when he had to power to do so.

What Chris lacks is the understanding that people can reach different conclusions given the same information, or rather the same subset of information that a tard like Chris uses to understand things in his simple world. He sees the world the same way mathematicians see things in terms of universal truth, only he lacks the logical and scientific background to understand that it doesn't work that way except in basic constructs like math and physics.

You see this all the time in religious zealots who interpret a particular bible verse in one way, and see everyone else as wrong, misinformed, or actively serving Satan, rather than having a valid difference of opinion. When Chris debates someone, he's not trying to promote the merits of his interpretation, he's trying to correct the flawed understanding of someone else. Failing that, he can only attribute it to malice.

In Chris' world, he is always correct, assuming the information he is working from was correct. He can admit mistakes due to some sort of physical failure or some external failure, but when he is working from a clear set of information, he sees his thoughts on the matter as always infallible.

Almost all children are like this at some point in their lives.

 

[Pickle Inspector]

I propose that Chris is JUST smart enough to know that other people have a problem with incest, and so he tried to hide it, but he genuinely doesn't understand why it's bad. He really thinks it's just da trolls and haters trying to stop his new love quest.

TLDR: I strongly suspect the beginning and end of morality for Chris is that things he likes are good, and things he doesn't like are bad. Anybody who disputes his behavior just doesn't fully appreciate his specialness. Without exaggeration, he is literally not capable of understanding anything more complex. He's that fucking stupid.

I’m not sure, he’s been pretty cagey about the incident, at first he talked about having found a girlfriend and it seemed like a romance/lust thing but then after he got found out implied it was some kind of healing ritual which for any other person would be an absolutely pitiful excuse but Chris is crazy and even later implied Barb survived her car accident because of it.

So I don’t know if it was because he was scared because he knew it was illegal and taboo and made up a reason why it wasn’t really sex or maybe this is a rare occurrence where Chris genuinely felt guilty about it after the fact when he realised he’d crossed a line so made up the excuse so he doesn’t have to admit to himself what he’s done.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

I’m not sure, he’s been pretty cagey about the incident, at first he talked about having found a girlfriend and it seemed like a romance/lust thing but then after he got found out implied it was some kind of healing ritual which for any other person would be an absolutely pitiful excuse but Chris is crazy and even later implied Barb survived her car accident because of it.

So I don’t know if it was because he was scared because he knew it was illegal and taboo and made up a reason why it wasn’t really sex or maybe this is a rare occurrence where Chris genuinely felt guilty about it after the fact when he realised he’d crossed a line so made up the excuse so he doesn’t have to admit to himself what he’s done.

The stupidest thing about the excuse is that in most cases, Chris was Barb's driver. If Chris had never been arrested, Barb wouldn't have been driving alone so much. Chris fucking Barb and getting sent to jail *caused* the accident.

 

[Pickle Inspector]

The stupidest thing about the excuse is that in most cases, Chris was Barb's driver. If Chris had never been arrested, Barb wouldn't have been driving alone so much. Chris fucking Barb and getting sent to jail *caused* the accident.

True but knowing Chris he’d say the accident was ‘fated’ so Chris is off the hook yet again!

 

[A-№1]

Taxpayers pay for the tugboat too

Obviously, but the point is Chris thinks of the tugboat as "his" money. He'll never care, nor even notice, what gets spent on keeping him imprisoned, but I guarantee he'll care about the tard home taking everything he could have spent on some lego.

Also Chris' annual tugboat: around $15,000
Average annual cost of incarcerating one person: about $32,000

And there's no way Chris would be one of the cheaper inmates. Keeping him fat and comfy in jail this past year has been VERY expensive (especially if he somehow manages to collect his back tugboat).

Chris fucking Barb and getting sent to jail *caused* the accident.

True but knowing Chris he’d say the accident was ‘fated’ so Chris is off the hook yet again!

I seem to remember Chris saying something about the accident happening because Barb was denied his "healing". Because nothing is ever Chris' fault.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

I mean, ultimately incest being illegal (as opposed to inbreeding) stems out of our disgust of it. It's the same reason we'd ban a business where people served sterilized urine to willing customers. There's not much wrong with it on a strictly utilitarian level, it's just fucking disgusting.

So Chris, in parroting arguments from other deviants against banning incest, actually has a valid point.

From that position, if we put aside our disgust, our criticism of Chris would be left with if he had been coercing Barb in any way. While this is a very real possibility, I am not convinced, given what a deranged whore Barb is.

That said, Chris' impulsiveness and lack of understanding of human dynamics leads him to completely misunderstand that even if you think something is unjust, you still have to take the consequences. That's how civil disobedience works.



Chris is also able to make some moral judgements, they're just colored by his desires, impulsiveness, and willingness to twist his justifications after the fact. He was "forced" to deface the Sonic merchandise because justice demanded it. He would be morally in the wrong if he failed to fight the evil blarms when he had to power to do so.

What Chris lacks is the understanding that people can reach different conclusions given the same information, or rather the same subset of information that a tard like Chris uses to understand things in his simple world. He sees the world the same way mathematicians see things in terms of universal truth, only he lacks the logical and scientific background to understand that it doesn't work that way except in basic constructs like math and physics.

You see this all the time in religious zealots who interpret a particular bible verse in one way, and see everyone else as wrong, misinformed, or actively serving Satan, rather than having a valid difference of opinion. When Chris debates someone, he's not trying to promote the merits of his interpretation, he's trying to correct the flawed understanding of someone else. Failing that, he can only attribute it to malice.

In Chris' world, he is always correct, assuming the information he is working from was correct. He can admit mistakes due to some sort of physical failure or some external failure, but when he is working from a clear set of information, he sees his thoughts on the matter as always infallible.

Almost all children are like this at some point in their lives.

Although you're correct about incest from a ruthless utilitarian standpoint, I don't think Chris would be capable of understanding that argument. If he's making that argument, he's regurgitating without understanding trying to justify himself, and he's only "right" by accident.

Plus, even if he's right, he's wrong. For normal people our moral instincts tell us incest is wrong, and our moral instincts are correct here. No amount of ivory tower sophistry will ever change the moral fact that incest is wrong. If a utilitarian model can't account for that, we're going to have to come up with a different model that fits the facts.

... but that's a whole different argument, especially how it relates to law. The point is, most people recognize an inherent wrongness to incest, even if they can't exactly articulate WHY. I'm not totally convinced Chris does. I think he only knows that it's something that gets people in trouble.

The second part, yeah, that's more or less what I was trying to say.

I’m not sure, he’s been pretty cagey about the incident, at first he talked about having found a girlfriend and it seemed like a romance/lust thing but then after he got found out implied it was some kind of healing ritual which for any other person would be an absolutely pitiful excuse but Chris is crazy and even later implied Barb survived her car accident because of it.

So I don’t know if it was because he was scared because he knew it was illegal and taboo and made up a reason why it wasn’t really sex or maybe this is a rare occurrence where Chris genuinely felt guilty about it after the fact when he realised he’d crossed a line so made up the excuse so he doesn’t have to admit to himself what he’s done.

Maybe. I'm not sure changing his story means that he FEELS guilty. He's done it a thousand times before with way lower stakes. I think it's more just a reflex when he thinks there's any kind of trouble coming his way.

 

[Ophelia]

Obviously, but the point is Chris thinks of the tugboat as "his" money. He'll never care, nor even notice, what gets spent on keeping him imprisoned, but I guarantee he'll care about the tard home taking everything he could have spent on some lego.

He would feel financially violated. It would be delightful to behold.

 

[A-№1]

For normal people our moral instincts tell us incest is wrong,

Not so much wrong as icky. No. Bad. Don't go there. For most people the aversion to incest seems to be even more basic than morality.

The point is, most people recognize an inherent wrongness to incest, even if they can't exactly articulate WHY.

Honestly, it's probably built in at the genetic level. Genes that encouraged inbreeding would be rapidly weeded out. This is not just true for humans. Non-human primates also have various behavioral mechanisms to avoid incest.

Also, when you look at people who are "incest ambivalent", such as Chris, you find they generally have other abnormalities as well.

He would feel financially violated. It would be delightful to behold.

Which is why it's better than prison. The tard home would be far more likely to teach him Valuable Life Lessons than prison would. Chris wouldn't learn them, of course, but casting pearls before swine doesn't make them not pearls.

The fact that it's also much cheaper is a bonus.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

Honestly, it's probably built in at the genetic level. Genes that encouraged inbreeding would be rapidly weeded out. This is not just true for humans. Non-human primates also have various behavioral mechanisms to avoid incest.

But stick animals in a cage with only their immediate relatives, eventually they fuck.

Chris' life (and arguably Barb's) was that cage, metaphorically.

 

[A-№1]

But stick animals in a cage with only their immediate relatives, eventually they fuck.

But artificial circumstances like that should not be included in a data set establishing a norm. Likely the genes against inbreeding got themselves sorted out long before cages were a thing.

Chris' life (and arguably Barb's) was that cage, metaphorically.

It's better explained by Chris just being very, VERY lazy. And his laziness isn't so much a cage as his métier.

Some artists work in clay, others in oils. You'd think Chris' medium would be pen and notebook paper, but actually it's sloth. A true master.

Even Chris had (admittedly vanishingly rare) opportunities to outbreed, or at least perceived opportunities, a.k.a. Fiona. Even the hambeast (or similar) would have been preferable to Barb, at least to anyone but Chris, but that would have needed effort.

 

[AnnLurker]

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This photo really makes me think of Bob. If he had beaten Chris and sent him to a home for tards, this photo wouldn't exist.

Velma really let herself go.

 

[Floralfeline]

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This photo really makes me think of Bob. If he had beaten Chris and sent him to a home for tards, this photo wouldn't exist.

This picture always made me uneasy. For some reason it gives me Uncanny Valley vibes.