MCU Television and Animation Series on Disney + - WandaVision, FATWS, Loki, etc

[Wilhelm Bittrich]

Tbh, I can't see Wandavision being more than one, maybe two seasons, the whole she holds a whole town hostage, just because she's just reached the first stage of grief (aka to live with Vision) is barely enough for one season.
Maybe there will be a cliffhanger plot twist introducing a >insert supervillain of your choice< who is pulling the strings in the back ground. But if they are really going down the "it's all Wanda" storyline this will get stale pretty soon.

 

[starborn427614]

Tbh, I can't see Wandavision being more than one, maybe two seasons, the whole she holds a whole town hostage, just because she's just reached the first stage of grief (aka to live with Vision) is barely enough for one season.
Maybe there will be a cliffhanger plot twist introducing a >insert supervillain of your choice< who is pulling the strings in the back ground. But if they are really going down the "it's all Wanda" storyline this will get stale pretty soon.

It's definitely not all Wanda. She can't control her kids for one thing and had no idea Pietro/Peter was going to show up. Agnes and "Ralph" are behind everything, mark my words.

 

[GenociderSyo]

Tbh, I can't see Wandavision being more than one, maybe two seasons, the whole she holds a whole town hostage, just because she's just reached the first stage of grief (aka to live with Vision) is barely enough for one season.
Maybe there will be a cliffhanger plot twist introducing a >insert supervillain of your choice< who is pulling the strings in the back ground. But if they are really going down the "it's all Wanda" storyline this will get stale pretty soon.

I beleive they have already said this will be a self-contained 9 episode run.

 

[SmugAutist]

Tbh, I can't see Wandavision being more than one, maybe two seasons, the whole she holds a whole town hostage, just because she's just reached the first stage of grief (aka to live with Vision) is barely enough for one season.
Maybe there will be a cliffhanger plot twist introducing a >insert supervillain of your choice< who is pulling the strings in the back ground. But if they are really going down the "it's all Wanda" storyline this will get stale pretty soon.

I don't think many of these shows are meant to be more than one season. At least, they're not shows in the same way we have shows come out on an annual basis. Comics by Perch made a great observation that if you take the running time of the recent Disney+ shows, they're not all that different from the running length of a movie, and the budget seems to be around the same. It looks like they are really just movies that have been cut so that they fit the attention span of modern audiences via streaming.

 

[Chilson]

I am more worried about Identity politics rearing its ugly head during the last episode. The old white man in charge who is nonsensically insistent that Wanda is a terrorist (by the shows logic this is wrong, in reality Wanda is a terrorist holding 3,000 people hostage and he is 100% right) and trying to kill her with a MISSLE that will almost assuredly kill more than just Wanda (on American soil no less).

While we have our plucky team of diverse characters with their lead female POC who is right about everything and figures obvious stuff out before everyone else who should have already known this stuff days before her if anyone at the base had half a brain. They are obviously going to at some point overturn the white mans control and be super right about everything and yada yada yada. Its all so tiresome, predictable, and poorly written. Its a shame, because the Wanda and vision stuff is legitimately interesting, creative and fun.

The show would be so much better if SWORD was revealed as a finale twist with hints (like the first two episodes) and the rest of the show just focused on Wanda's TV show reality crumbling around her and Vision.

 

[InsolentGaylord]

I am more worried about Identity politics rearing its ugly head during the last episode. The old white man in charge who is nonsensically insistent that Wanda is a terrorist (by the shows logic this is wrong, in reality Wanda is a terrorist holding 3,000 people hostage and he is 100% right) and trying to kill her with a MISSLE that will almost assuredly kill more than just Wanda (on American soil no less).

While we have are plucky team of diverse characters with their lead female POC who is right about everything and figures obvious stuff out before everyone else who should have figured days before her if anyone at the base had half a brain. They are obviously going to at some point overturn the white mans control and be super right about everything and yada yada yada. Its all so tiresome, predictable, and poorly written. Its a shame, because the Wanda and vision stuff is legitimately interesting, creative and fun.

The show would be so much better if SWORD was revealed as a finale twist with hints (like the first two episodes) and the rest of the show just focused on Wanda's TV show reality crumbling around her and Vision.

I felt something was off when Monica did that technobabble (like I didn't realise she was a scientist?) out of the blue, it was really weird. But then I remembered something.

Please correct me on what Monica's occupation is supposed to be if I am wrong. I am open to being proven wrong.

A while back when Marvel was trying so hard to push the unpopular SJW characters (Inb4 someone shrieks at me and says I am wrong because people were duped into watching Captain Marvel), like Squirrel Girl (the current version) and Kamala Khan, they tried to get these characters to talk about the sciences (including Squirrel Girl). I sorta put two and two together; basically Monica has to be a super smart scientist-lite despite it making little sense for her to be one.

Regarding the "old white man", I noticed that too. Plus him calling Wanda a terrorist had really weird acting...felt incredibly cartoonish and illogical for that progression to happen.

Come to think of it the acting in general annoys me. It feels really fake and doesn't feel particularly in line with the serious tone. This is for the SWORD scenes btw, the Sitcom parts are acted fine for the most part, since they fit.

On a positive note I was more engaged with the sitcom parts of Episode 5, felt more actual plot was happening.

 

[Chilson]

I felt something was off when Monica did that technobabble (like I didn't realise she was a scientist?) out of the blue, it was really weird. But then I remembered something.

Please correct me on what Monica's occupation is supposed to be if I am wrong. I am open to being proven wrong.

A while back when Marvel was trying so hard to push the unpopular SJW characters (Inb4 someone shrieks at me and says I am wrong because people were duped into watching Captain Marvel), like Squirrel Girl (the current version) and Kamala Khan, they tried to get these characters to talk about the sciences (including Squirrel Girl). I sorta put two and two together; basically Monica has to be a super smart scientist-lite despite it making little sense for her to be one.

Regarding the "old white man", I noticed that too. Plus him calling Wanda a terrorist had really weird acting...felt incredibly cartoonish and illogical for that progression to happen.

Come to think of it the acting in general annoys me. It feels really fake and doesn't feel particularly in line with the serious tone. This is for the SWORD scenes btw, the Sitcom parts are acted fine for the most part, since they fit.

On a positive note I was more engaged with the sitcom parts of Episode 5, felt more actual plot was happening.

"Science" lady is a side character from the mediocre Thor movies. She is a terrible actress in general, hired because out of touch executive suits think she is exactly what all Millennial's are and she would appeal to them. She solely existed to technobabble the McGuffin and be "quirky", and that will not change with this show it seems. She does not work with the more serious tone this show is going for at all, compared to the more campy nature of the old Thor movies (even then she was awful).

Addressing the POC leader, I knew this was going to happen since they did the flashback where every character felates her because her mom started SWORD. Hell, the old white man even says that she should have been in charge instead of him, which is fucking retarded. SWORD is a government funded para-military organization and not some monarchy. Those with the most experience and right qualifications gets the job and he clearly had both.

The Asian dude exists to agree with the other two and his actor is doing what he has done in every other bit roll he has ever played in on TV. I don't even know why the fuck he is even still there. He is an FBI agent, not SWORD personal. His ass should have been thrown off the FOB to go back to his FBI branch and report on what's going on.

 

[SmugAutist]

I am more worried about Identity politics rearing its ugly head during the last episode. The old white man in charge who is nonsensically insistent that Wanda is a terrorist (by the shows logic this is wrong, in reality Wanda is a terrorist holding 3,000 people hostage and he is 100% right) and trying to kill her with a MISSLE that will almost assuredly kill more than just Wanda (on American soil no less).

While we have our plucky team of diverse characters with their lead female POC who is right about everything and figures obvious stuff out before everyone else who should have already known this stuff days before her if anyone at the base had half a brain. They are obviously going to at some point overturn the white mans control and be super right about everything and yada yada yada. Its all so tiresome, predictable, and poorly written. Its a shame, because the Wanda and vision stuff is legitimately interesting, creative and fun.

The show would be so much better if SWORD was revealed as a finale twist with hints (like the first two episodes) and the rest of the show just focused on Wanda's TV show reality crumbling around her and Vision.

Eh, it didn't bother me all that much. For all the shit they get, Disney is one of the mildest entertainment companies when it comes to the social justice shit (with the possible exception of Lucasfilm). It's annoying, but not enough to take me out of the show. You kind of have to dig deep and really think about it to tell. Compared to what is happening with other franchises like Star Trek, DC, etc. Marvel seems almost outright apolitical. They do want to get those progressive brownie points from Twitter, but still seem to fundamentally understand who their audience is and not behead the golden goose.

The guy seems to act the same way a federal organization would act, and it's not like Wanda doesn't know what she is doing. In today's world, you have to deal with some level of wokeness no matter what you're watching, it's just a game of seeing how much you can tolerate, and Marvel scores pretty OK on the tolerability level.

 

[InsolentGaylord]

Eh, it didn't bother me all that much. For all the shit they get, Disney is one of the mildest entertainment companies when it comes to the social justice shit (with the possible exception of Lucasfilm). It's annoying, but not enough to take me out of the show. You kind of have to dig deep and really think about it to tell. Compared to what is happening with other franchises like Star Trek, DC, etc. Marvel seems almost outright apolitical. They do want to get those progressive brownie points from Twitter, but still seem to fundamentally understand who their audience is and not behead the golden goose.

The guy seems to act the same way a federal organization would act, and it's not like Wanda doesn't know what she is doing. In today's world, you have to deal with some level of wokeness no matter what you're watching, it's just a game of seeing how much you can tolerate, and Marvel scores pretty OK on the tolerability level.

Wait a few more years and then look back on this post.

 

[cactus]

I don't think many of these shows are meant to be more than one season. At least, they're not shows in the same way we have shows come out on an annual basis. Comics by Perch made a great observation that if you take the running time of the recent Disney+ shows, they're not all that different from the running length of a movie, and the budget seems to be around the same. It looks like they are really just movies that have been cut so that they fit the attention span of modern audiences via streaming.

Loki is supposed to have a 2nd season approved already. I'm pretty sure the Falcon and the Winter Soldier is going to be more than one season too, unless they somehow kill Zemo at the end of the 9 episode.

 

[GenociderSyo]

Curious question comes up in the last episode. Where ARE all the children....

 

[Notgoodwithusernames]

I felt something was off when Monica did that technobabble (like I didn't realise she was a scientist?) out of the blue, it was really weird. But then I remembered something.

Please correct me on what Monica's occupation is supposed to be if I am wrong. I am open to being proven wrong.

A while back when Marvel was trying so hard to push the unpopular SJW characters (Inb4 someone shrieks at me and says I am wrong because people were duped into watching Captain Marvel), like Squirrel Girl (the current version) and Kamala Khan, they tried to get these characters to talk about the sciences (including Squirrel Girl). I sorta put two and two together; basically Monica has to be a super smart scientist-lite despite it making little sense for her to be one.

Regarding the "old white man", I noticed that too. Plus him calling Wanda a terrorist had really weird acting...felt incredibly cartoonish and illogical for that progression to happen.

Come to think of it the acting in general annoys me. It feels really fake and doesn't feel particularly in line with the serious tone. This is for the SWORD scenes btw, the Sitcom parts are acted fine for the most part, since they fit.

On a positive note I was more engaged with the sitcom parts of Episode 5, felt more actual plot was happening.

I mean gl;owniggers are pretty retarded

 

[TungstenCarbide]

It's definitely not all Wanda. She can't control her kids for one thing and had no idea Pietro/Peter was going to show up. Agnes and "Ralph" are behind everything, mark my words.

You may be right. If I'm not mistaken Agnes is the only 'character' who hasn't been identified by the authorities. Also she seems the only one who is perfectly aware of the town predicament (like it was shown in the last episode, when she asks Wanda if the wants to redo the scene), along with Herb. And in the Marvel Universe there are a lot of people who have the powers needed to influence Wanda: Malice, Agatha Harkness, the Shadow King, Immortus...

 

[GenociderSyo]

You may be right. If I'm not mistaken Agnes is the only 'character' who hasn't been identified by the authorities. Also she seems the only one who is perfectly aware of the town predicament (like it was shown in the last episode, when she asks Wanda if the wants to redo the scene), along with Herb. And in the Marvel Universe there are a lot of people who have the powers needed to influence Wanda: Malice, Agatha Harkness, the Shadow King, Immortus...

Dottie wasn't identified either I beleive.

 

[Pickle Inspector]

I hope those Shield jerkops don’t succeed in ending Wanda‘s love quest with Vision and she stays mayor housewife of Westview!

 

[starborn427614]

I hope those Shield jerkops don’t succeed in ending Wanda‘s love quest with Vision and she stays mayor housewife of Westview!

Go Wanda and cope to the extreme!!

 

[Kulee Baba]

It was a nice touch that Wanda goes back to an Eastern European accent when she's pissed. Also it made me respect the show's 4th Wall breaks in the revelation that Wanda is mindfucking all these people into being stock TV friends. Not really sure how Wanda herself would have grown up watching American TV but whatever, maybe you can just pretend that she spent a few years during the Infinite War drinking and watching old television.

I can't believe that there's people still in denial in thinking that this isn't an alternate universe version of Quicksilver. The next big Marvel movie is literally Dr. Strange 2 and The MULTIVERSE of Madness. They've already said in the dialog that Wanda has the power to alter reality. After the big hole of losing Iron Man and Captain America the easiest way to keep this cash cow going is to bring in the X-Men.

I mean really if you're going to tease everyone with Quicksilver how can you not then bring in Magneto?

 

[starborn427614]

They've already said in the dialog that Wanda has the power to alter reality.

The weird thing is...she can't. Not with her current powerset. After all, all her stuff comes from the Mind stone which is pretty powerful at manipulating thoughts but it could never alter reality the way the titular other stone could. There's a third party at work here and it's probably one hell of a devil.

 

[trekkor]

Not really sure how Wanda herself would have grown up watching American TV but whatever, maybe you can just pretend that she spent a few years during the Infinite War drinking and watching old television.

She grew up in the 90s in Eastern Europe and I can tell you that we got a LOT of old American sitcoms on TV. They're dirt cheap to buy for the local station and presumably Skovia also had the problem of most of the local shows being commie-ish propaganda (or just boring and low budget as shit). So you had a choice between that or some cozy, cope-tier American canned humour comedies, and let me tell you, for our part of the world, those were godly shows.

 

[Francis York Morgan]

I can't believe that there's people still in denial in thinking that this isn't an alternate universe version of Quicksilver. The next big Marvel movie is literally Dr. Strange 2 and The MULTIVERSE of Madness. They've already said in the dialog that Wanda has the power to alter reality. After the big hole of losing Iron Man and Captain America the easiest way to keep this cash cow going is to bring in the X-Men.

Acknowledging and incorporating the Multiverse also gives them an opening for bringing back all those popular characters that were written off (Iron Man, Cap, Black Widow) or recasting characters whose actor has passed (Black Panther). They'll need it once the current direction of "let's build around the shitty ideas from Marvel Now" falls flat on its face and after they've ruined the X-Men for diversity points.