Perhaps you can get away with shooting the animal ammo, but the surplus 100% requires cleaning on those naked barrels, it's all horrifically filthy all the same.
Yeah, they cut some corners back in the commie days, but improved other parts of the design. Biggest reason my buddy sold his yugo surplus was the lack of the chrome lined barrel; apparently even the chink sks clone has a chrome barrel.
It's really not that bad at all. I have shot tons of Russian steel case and I can tell you that stuff like Blazer is dirtier; Golden Tiger in particular is fantastic ammunition. Corrosive milsurp is what it is no matter who made it, it's why I don't really use it anymore. The savings are not worth having to do a full clean every single range session, even if I only shot a mag, and I do that even though the barrel is chrome lined just to be on the safe side.
My Arsenal and Saiga both had canted sights, and the finish on both were laughably bad, the Saiga even had a fucked up rivet IIRC. QC is non-existent even for the "high tier" AK's unless you go with semi-custom builders like RD or Krebs.
Even back in the day people just laughed when you complained about QC, even Arsenal stopped caring about canted sights after a while and all adjacent communities just recommended pulling the pin to rotate the FSB. Or they spammed the "hit it with a hammer" meme because they think that's how it works.
its quite good for a late 1940's assault rifleThe AK is.
The AK is great for what it was designed for, at the time it was designed, and there are still quality new production AKs in America, but it's an obsolete product of a bygone era that is outdone by the AR in every practical measure. For any serious gun use, I would suggest an AR, but it's definitely not trash unless you bought a trash rifle. I am not going to simp for obsolete equipment, but I think trash is definitely overstating it.The AK is
Apparently it was originally intended to be a submachine gun lol. Still can't believe those crazy russkies thought the AK would actually work in that role.
Stay away from RD and Krebs. Even they use Romanian parts kits for their builds, and their gas blocks are clamp on style half the time. I've built plenty of AK's and Romanian parts are the worst available in the US. RD, Krebs and especially Arsenal prey upon normgroids with more money than sense. People that would rather spend money instead of doing research, people that won't realize they reached the point of diminishing returns $2,000 dollars ago.
It really doesn't matter so long as you're able to zero the iron sights but it becomes a bigger issue when the rifle costs upwards of 1k instead of $400. At the end of the day I'm an AKfag through and through but I can't recommend them for new shooters
To put in context this was the era of infantry rifles with 1000 yard sights, and SMGs with 200 yard sights.
pretty much all assault rifles were classed as SMG's early on. AK, STG, even the M16 (XM177 was called a SMG). and to be fair, they were sub caliber guns when the standard arm was a battle rifle.
I did not know that, but it makes sense. I do know that the SKS was supposed to be the main rifle and the AK the "submachine gun", but I didn't realize that was the terminology at the time; I never really thought about when "assault rifle" came about. Thanks for the info.
You won't regret it. I'm going to pick up an OCL Infinity 30 once I work enough overtime to buy it straight out.
that's fucking horrifying, clamp-ons for ARs are sketchy already but on an AK it's asking for trouble
When an autist notices the FSB is canted they start panicking and flailing.
Primarily, yes. Pop culture moves guns at a rate second only to legislation. Movies made the Model 29 out to serve the role of a primary arm. The Anaconda came out way too late and was overshadowed by the Python and other brands were crap(Astra) or too niche(Dan Wesson).
Is it only when the gun is at rest, or have you checked properly by holding the trigger to the rear and trying to rotate the cylinder? How tight it is when the hammer drops is the important part.
I think there are currently US military AR-15 type rifles that use set screw type mounts but it gets really sketch when you have a long stroke gas piston ramming itself into the gasblock. I don't even know why the canted gas blocks are an issue to this day when you can simply slot on an alignment jig. I've seen retards make funnel type jigs in their garage that will align things as the component got pressed on so there's no excuse for state arms factories to be fucking up like this.
Canted gas blocks weren't common but I've seen pictures of them on rifles pulled off the shelf and heard storied of people having to realign them to the gas port. It's more that they don't align the FSB along with it and that seems to still be a problem today even with the near 1k prices when, like you said, even Bubba has alignment tools in his basement that work just fine.
I really hate that shit, especially for what they're charging, lazy fucking niggers. It chaps my ass that they're the only mainstream-ish builders I can even recommend. Unfortunately, the AK market in the US has been dogshit since Obama banned Russian imports, and even before that things were looking grim.
The Ruger is probably the next Gen SR-22...French criminal advertising a 3D printed Rogue-9 SMG for sale, 3800 Euro
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Patent drawings for a Ruger .22 pistol. Might see it at SHOT
Sig Saar also has a new patent, A buffer to help keep the FCU in place, which might be to help it stop being jostled and releasing the sear. You know, the thing that doesn't happen
True although the WASR is now $850 instead of $550.... An on sale WBP Jack is a bit more with way nicer wood and finishing
Lmao
those were the brands AK autists WORSHIPPED from 2005 till 2015Ugh, looks like the only AKM pattern rifles worth buying in the USA in 2025 are the WASR 10 or the WPB Jack.
Never EVER gonna happen
Fair, they are a newer player, I've seen generally good reviews of their stuff but I haven't personally gotten my hands on one yet.
It is 100% cloning autism, you had motherfuckers on AK Files inspecting what direction the machining marks are going inside the trunnion of the KUSA 104 vs a Saiga and all sorts of other retarded shit. The AR fags are somehow even worse than this when it comes to cloning however.mao
I've used WBP parts for a few of my builds. I like them but I don't think nicer wood and a black oxide finish is worth more than a WASR, especially when the 5.56 Jacks don't have chrome lined barrels. WASR's often go on sale for even less too. Puritans will sperg about certain WBP geometry not being true AKM spec but its really not noticeable for the consumer outside of the 5.56 models so you can largely ignore that. Some people claim to have accuracy and durability issues with the 5.56 WBP. Personally I haven't experienced it but its out there if you want to look at it.
