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Falcos_Commisar said:
There is nothing fundamentally wrong with a PSA "premium" mid length AR build kit. $500 or so gets you a rifle that goes bang. Same with Anderson or Windham. If ALL you want is a 5.56mm rifle with a 16 inch barrel, mid length gas system and a small picatinny rail on top for a better sight than irons your good to go. Pop on a polymer Magpul handguard for mlok slots and you're golden.

You pay more for a better barrel, handguards and QC (PSA has a lifetime warranty).... Oh and that rollmark.
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This is classic Just As Good cope from people unwilling to save up for proper equipment. I'm not going to debate the merits of this budget brand over that budget brand. Use PSA shit for self defense at your own peril.
 
White Devil said:
This is classic Just As Good cope from people unwilling to save up for proper equipment. I'm not going to debate the merits of this budget brand over that budget brand. Use PSA shit for self defense at your own peril.
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To be fair (and I don't know if they still are) but PSA's premium line was/is made by FN.
I know of the 2 likely rifles I would grab zero hesitation one is a Beretta ARX the other is a Franken AR with a BCM bcg/barrel and a mix of troy and magpul stuff.
 
Their barrels were made by FN, they shouted that from the rooftops.
 
DocAwe said:
Maybe, idk.
Other that the one I have I've only seen like 2 others.
I just know what I gave for mine so when I see them higher it throws me off.
CDNN Has them for $600.
KS7
Same as me thinking that I overpaid ($6-700) for my saiga almost 8 years ago but now see them for $1000 plus.
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KS7 was at my local Rural King when I went in yesterday (or something that looks really similar). I think it's been there for months. I'll check the price next time I'm there.
 
Null said:
Q about variations:

- I was advised to get a pistol AR because it's marked in such a way I can modify it up but I cannot modify a rifle down. Should I get the shorter barrel?
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Do not get a pistol length AR. You're not clearing houses or doing CQC. You also lose a significant chunk of velocity, which is vital for a 5.56/.223's performance. A 16" barrel is the perfect compromise of velocity and legality as a rifle.
Null said:
- Similarly, shotguns with pistol grips are popular because removing the stock is illegal in some places. Since I'm retarded, should I stick with the stock?
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Just follow the advice of pretty much everyone here and get a 500/590 or 870.
Null said:
- For CCW people have suggested a .357 S&W. Should I get a snub nose or a longer barrel?
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No. Just get a compact semi auto pistol like a Glock 43 or P365. A snub revolver is a boomer idea and a .357 snub is a terrible boomer idea.

If you absolutely must carry a revolver, carry a S&W model 29 with an 8 inch barrel in royal blue or a Colt Python with an 6 inch barrel in nickle finish.
 
DocAwe said:
Maybe, idk.
Other that the one I have I've only seen like 2 others.
I just know what I gave for mine so when I see them higher it throws me off.
CDNN Has them for $600.
KS7
Same as me thinking that I overpaid ($6-700) for my saiga almost 8 years ago but now see them for $1000 plus.
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My Local Gun store had a black one that was $499, has been out of stock since the chimp outs of 2020, has jump up almost 100 dollars since then and I've yet to see it in stock. Other stores will get them in used and have a 2-300 dollar mark up on them. Academy had them for a little more, but their price has shot up even more than the locally owned one and they have been just as out of stock. I'm guessing they got bought up when everyone wanted to YEET rioters, and a Supply Chain issue has kept Kel-Tec from being able to replenish.
 
Baked Al-Aqsa said:
Do not get a pistol length AR. You're not clearing houses or doing CQC. You also lose a significant chunk of velocity, which is vital for a 5.56/.223's performance. A 16" barrel is the perfect compromise of velocity and legality as a rifle.
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It's for home defense, so a 10.5 is fine. He's not going to be shooting even 50 yards. Also takes up less room in your car.
 
Puff said:
It's for home defense, so a 10.5 is fine. He's not going to be shooting even 50 yards. Also takes up less room in your car.
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Some states don't allow loaded rifles in your car but a loaded pistol is fine.
 
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Puff said:
It's for home defense, so a 10.5 is fine. He's not going to be shooting even 50 yards. Also takes up less room in your car.
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He doesn't need a cqb carbine. He's not going to know how to properly clear a room with it and he doesn't need the headache of navigating NFA laws. I swear you people are actually retarded.
 
Rent Tin said:
While I generally agree that most cheaper stuff is just as good as more expensive things, I don't skimp on live-saving gear such as armor, medical, ammo or firearms and I generally recommend no one skimps on those things.

For just a hundred or two hundred dollars more he can get Aero/S&W/Ruger, which have much better quality control and build quality. If you just want to shoot at a range PSA works, but if you want a rifle you can trust to run in your worst moments I wouldn't go for it.

My only other thought on this is that a forged lower is a forged lower. I generally agree that lowers don't really get different as you go upwards in price, but I'm open to being proven wrong by anyone who has more experience on that front.
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I'll say it again, best quality budget is a blem M4E1 lower with a blem BCM and build from there. The lower and upper can be had for cheap and sometimes you can't visibly see why they were marked as blem.
Falcos_Commisar said:
A .22TCM / 9mm Rock Island 1911 is so much fun it might be banned in California 😅

As for the M5, can't wait to see the diversity creatures in the Army be unable to rifle quality because the M5 is 14 FUCKING POUNDS with it's required sight and supressor. I love the YouTube gun bunnies jacking off to it especially when you realize NONE of them have shot it with the 80,000 psi "real ammo" and have just been shooting low power, low pressure 135 grain TRAINING ROUNDS they are roughly equivalent to .300 blackout in term of energy (out of a amusingly short 13 inch barrel because that supressor is 4+ inches long)

Ugh the rifle would be excellent in 5.56mm with a 14.5-16 inch barrel and I have a feeling the next gen Virtus/MCX will just be a downscaled M5. But no some retarded general officer who hates 5.56mm HAD TO HAVE 6.8x51mm aka .277 FURY beca he's retarded and actually thinks the average grunt will be able to get reliable man sized hits at 500+ meters while huffing and puffing with a 14+lb rifle and dealing with 7.62x51mm levels of recoil (lol to accurate follow up shots). Goddamn that guy is stupid.
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You need to think of it like you're Russian: Bottlenecked .30 bullet with a fuck ton of charge to lob it down range.

White Devil said:
He doesn't need a cqb carbine. He's not going to know how to properly clear a room with it and he doesn't need the headache of navigating NFA laws. I swear you people are actually retarded.
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In AWB states there has been growing popularity of building virgin receivers as "others" and making sure they remain their transfer designation to have fun features and a short barrel, you don't even need to consider NFA if you do it properly. One of the most popular companies that isn't shit Turkshit tier is called Modern Material.

Depending on state laws, you can have a 10.5 barrel without NFA if your build has a brace on an extended pistol buffer or pinned muzzle and a VFG. If you have an extended pistol buffer you can have a 10.5 build and you won't need to pin the muzzle in a ban state at all.
 
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SuperConglomerateWhale said:
In AWB states there has been growing popularity of building virgin receivers as "others" and making sure they remain their transfer designation to have fun features and a short barrel, you don't even need to consider NFA if you do it properly. One of the most popular companies that isn't shit Turkshit tier is called Modern Material.

Depending on state laws, you can have a 10.5 barrel without NFA if your build has a brace on an extended pistol buffer or pinned muzzle and a VFG. If you have an extended pistol buffer you can have a 10.5 build and you won't need to pin the muzzle in a ban state at all.
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This is a newbie who has probably never fired an AR, much less assembled one.

For those in the back, Keep. It. Simple. Stupid.
 
Falcos_Commisar said:
As for the M5, can't wait to see the diversity creatures in the Army be unable to rifle quality because the M5 is 14 FUCKING POUNDS with it's required sight and supressor. I love the YouTube gun bunnies jacking off to it especially when you realize NONE of them have shot it with the 80,000 psi "real ammo" and have just been shooting low power, low pressure 135 grain TRAINING ROUNDS they are roughly equivalent to .300 blackout in term of energy
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Supersonic 300 BLK is less than 1400 ft lbs while the Sig training ammo should be around 2000 ft lbs. Garand Thumb shot it with rounds that had the steel base and did 2800 fps instead of 2900 like the real deal so he was clocking at around 2300 ft lbs.
Puff said:
It's for home defense, so a 10.5 is fine. He's not going to be shooting even 50 yards. Also takes up less room in your car.
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Extra barrel to reduce flash and blast is worth it, though.
 
UVB-76 said:
Extra barrel to reduce flash and blast is worth it, though.
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That's a pro's/con's tradeoff. Have to decide yourself whether you want less obnoxious or more handy.

White Devil said:
He doesn't need a cqb carbine. He's not going to know how to properly clear a room with it and he doesn't need the headache of navigating NFA laws. I swear you people are actually retarded.
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Don't care about the first part. There are benefits to having a shorter gun for newbies too. We're not asking him to door kick by giving a short gun. The pistol brace laws being about to change is a decent reason to avoid it though. Doubt the feeder wants to have to keep up with that mess.
 
Baked Al-Aqsa said:
Do not get a pistol length AR. You're not clearing houses or doing CQC. You also lose a significant chunk of velocity, which is vital for a 5.56/.223's performance. A 16" barrel is the perfect compromise of velocity and legality as a rifle.

Just follow the advice of pretty much everyone here and get a 500/590 or 870.

No. Just get a compact semi auto pistol like a Glock 43 or P365. A snub revolver is a boomer idea and a .357 snub is a terrible boomer idea.

If you absolutely must carry a revolver, carry a S&W model 29 with an 8 inch barrel in royal blue or a Colt Python with an 6 inch barrel in nickle finish.
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A P365 is one of THE BEST subcompact 9mm semi autos out right now. Excellent ergonomics and ridiculous aftermarket support if you want to change something. Also comes with a manual safety if you want on (on an edc gun I want that unless it has a looonngg and heavy trigger pull)

As for revolvers, they're pretty old hat in 2022 but they are fun as hell. A S&W 686 in .357 with a 4 inch barrel is outstanding and can shoot .38 special if you're not a fan of .356 recoil all the time. Plus it's big hunk of steel and looks timeless. Literally a gun you can enjoy your whole life.

Little revolvers like the Ruger LCR can be excellent "deep carry", even the .22lr version of the LCR as it gives you 8 shots in a TINY frame. Tiny blowback semi autos can be AWFUL to shoot (except .22lr and .25 ACP and maybe .32 but good luck getting .25 ACP and .32 today). Also, .22lr semi autos are harder to clear in terms of malfunctions vs a double action revolver where all you do it keep pulling the trigger.
 

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