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Club Sandwich said:
creditors have tracked purchasing categories since the 1930's and older than that if you want to consider actual ledgers as a data source. this is important for documenting what sectors and markets their financial products are being used in so they can better position themselves in the market. prior to the 90's, firearms were in 4 categories: department stores (5311), sporting goods (5941), catalog sales (5964), and various security services under contract (7393). after 2017 was proposed separating out firearms specifically from these categories since it wasn't common in department stores or catalog sales anymore, and security services were for professional services, not retail sales. pawn shops had their own code which i don't remember that also included firearms in them, and there are construction services for things like demolitions or blanks for nail guns, et c.

the anti-gun lobby wanted it to be it's own code for that product category so that legislation could be drawn up to specifically exclude it from various credit programs or cash withdrawals or ACH payments. a lot of states do this for securities trading or gambling or OTC drugs for example, so it's not something new. alcohol is another one that's scattered in like a dozen codes and doesn't really have its own in the same way gambling does.

i'm not worried about visa or whomever tracking purchases, i would be worried about them caving to ideological pressure to deny those transactions, or for pressure on legislatures to specifically ban those merchant codes from various types of transactions (like ATMs), turning guns into a cash-only type service, which already has a poor reputation in other industries.

handy searchable MCC codes: https://github.com/greggles/mcc-codes
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Thanks for the explanation. So, if I am understanding this right, the "tracking" was likely just an excuse for the long term goal of making it harder to purchase firearms and ammunition through payment processor services? So I am just being paranoid thinking Visa is going to report buying some range ammo to the feds? I do know that there have been a wide variety of attempts to make legally purchasing guns and ammo as difficult and inconvenient as possible, but when they said it was for tracking, I naturally took them at their word.
 
Fount of BadSpeak said:
So I am just being paranoid thinking Visa is going to report buying some range ammo to the feds?
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Most of what you do is already being documented passively. Practically everything leaves a footprint. Your purchases have been tracked since the dawn of time; your bank, paypal, whatever processor you use keeps and stores literally every transaction you make down to the penny. They even send them to you monthly as statements. Bank employees can just go in there and look and the feds *and* state can request those records at will, usually without you actually knowing.
Social security can take a look in there, as can other agencies. Whoever wants to scrutinize your bank will. There is a reason why people who make suspicious purchases get checked up on very quickly. If I go to Walmart and buy a ton of fertilizer and other shit associated with bomb making, that's documented the moment I make the purchase. I can go and spread out my purchases across different stores, and time, but much like the 'In Minecraft' defense, we live in the real world and they're going to notice that immediately too if anyone decides to take a look at your statements.

The government also has the capability to threaten you into producing bank statements and records, generally within an allotted timeframe.
The moment you swipe that Visa, you had a background check done, and there's now a giant fucking transaction right there on your statement for 399$ that's the equivalent of a black kid at a theater going "this nigga just bought a gun!". It'll have the time, date, exact amount, and the location will be logged too alongside purchase codes and other shit, both external to you and viewers and the bank itself.
 
Sjögren inertial shotgun
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GD article.
Swedish inventor Carl Axel Theodor Sjögren had three Swedish patents from 1900, 1903 and 1905 linked to the gun. A Swedish businessman called A. Karlsson ordered 5,000 guns from Töjhusafdelningen och Haandvaabenverksäderna in Copenhagen, Denmark in August, 1907. Only 12-bore guns with 70-centimeter 3/4 choke barrels were made, but an extra 500 60-centimeter-long barrels with cylinder choke were also made.

The last gun was manufactured in 1909. Serial numbers range from 1001 to 6000. My Sjogren has pre-WW I German commercial proof marks. It is probably a vet bring-back from WW I or WW II. The gun shown in the Marsh book has English proofs from the same era. Additionally, US patent 954,546 was issued to Carl Axel Theodore Sjogren on April 12, 1910, but I found no record of commercial importation or sale in the U.S.

The Sjogren system has a fixed barrel and a fully locked breechblock. It utilizes what is called inertia driven operation to extract and eject the fired shell, then reload the next shot. The recoil (or rearward inertia) of the whole gun operates an internal locking block that stays forward at the moment of rearward recoil, this allows the bolt to open as breech pressure drops and extract the fired shell. A similar system is currently in use in the Benelli M-1 shotgun.
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Smoke Manmuscle said:
I have 5.56 guns and refuse to get any .300 BLK ever. There is too much concern on dangerous combinations happening.


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This why I hate .300 BLK and wonder why it was ever approved.

For suppressed shooting I use .350 legend. Close to the same mag capacity and 50-100gr heavier bullet.
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So what youre telling me is that .300BLK in a 5in 5.56 barrel gives me a mini railgun.
 
I don't know I wasn't getting notifications on this thread. Missed 10 pages of good shit.
 
I knew that this sort of autism existed, but it seemed like a pretty niche hobby/interest, outside specialty model shop displays & glossy gun-rag advertisements.
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But I gotta appreciate that whoever runs GoatGuns seems to have cornered the autistically detailed miniature-firearm market (at least on Facebook); specifically normie gamer/gunsperg manchildren & their female minders, and possibly those who live in cucked environs....
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Those things are betwen $30-$80+ ea; not including extra bits.
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I wonder if they make the pew-pew noises anytime one is picked up or unboxed.

And lastly... a man took this photo.
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So we went out and shot about 300-400 rounds of Magtech 115 Grain FMJ 9mm, didn't have a single Failure to fire or feed which is surprising considering my brothers pistol. The rounds seemed to shoot fairly clean as well. If anyone is in the market for cheap practice ammo I had no complaints. A box of 1000 was $300USD before shipping and tax. I can't attest to it's accuracy 100% because we were not setup as well as I would have liked to test it more accurately, that being said it did seem to hit a bit low for me and my brother.

Also Built a target stand out of 2x4s and wood screws that got hit by my old man's .45 almost immediately and still held up I will post a picture of it tomorrow when there is light out. Took me about 20 minutes to throw it together with scrap. The best part is the wind never gave us trouble with the stand and we only had one small weight on the back.
 
God I envy you burgers. I live in Europe and this weekend I went out to the local gun range to shoot some pistols for the first time and I'm 100% hooked, but the local law is turbo retarded even for EU standards and getting a permit is fucked.
 
Pocket Dragoon said:
I knew that this sort of autism existed, but it seemed like a pretty niche hobby/interest, outside specialty model shop displays & glossy gun-rag advertisements.
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But I gotta appreciate that whoever runs GoatGuns seems to have cornered the autistically detailed miniature-firearm market (at least on Facebook); specifically normie gamer/gunsperg manchildren & their female minders, and possibly those who live in cucked environs....
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I wonder if they make the pew-pew noises anytime one is picked up or unboxed.

And lastly... a man took this photo.
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This is literally just Funko Pops but for guns. I could understand getting one as like a fidget toy, but the obvious market ploy here is exploiting the consoomer brained gun people into getting the equivalent of a Marvel Action figure collection. Reminds me of the type of people who will buy the 22LR versions of the G36 or other relatively hard to get ahold of guns.
 
YachieKicchou said:
Most of what you do is already being documented passively. Practically everything leaves a footprint. Your purchases have been tracked since the dawn of time; your bank, paypal, whatever processor you use keeps and stores literally every transaction you make down to the penny. They even send them to you monthly as statements. Bank employees can just go in there and look and the feds *and* state can request those records at will, usually without you actually knowing.
Social security can take a look in there, as can other agencies. Whoever wants to scrutinize your bank will. There is a reason why people who make suspicious purchases get checked up on very quickly. If I go to Walmart and buy a ton of fertilizer and other shit associated with bomb making, that's documented the moment I make the purchase. I can go and spread out my purchases across different stores, and time, but much like the 'In Minecraft' defense, we live in the real world and they're going to notice that immediately too if anyone decides to take a look at your statements.

The government also has the capability to threaten you into producing bank statements and records, generally within an allotted timeframe.
The moment you swipe that Visa, you had a background check done, and there's now a giant fucking transaction right there on your statement for 399$ that's the equivalent of a black kid at a theater going "this nigga just bought a gun!". It'll have the time, date, exact amount, and the location will be logged too alongside purchase codes and other shit, both external to you and viewers and the bank itself.
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You sound like those naysayers telling me that having any interest in privacy or rights is stupid because I own electronics and the Patriot Act, as if the goal isn't minimizing the risk and violation of my rights.

Paypal can't be used for firearms or ammunition purchases, I was speaking towards card payment processors that allow those transactions. Also, aren't things like fertilizer in special purchasing codes specifically so they can be tracked for suspicious behavior, much like over the counter drugs that can be used to make illicit drugs? You didn't actually answer my question or contribute meaningfully to the topic I raised, which makes me wonder what the point of this comment even was. I was also speaking towards ammo purchases specifically, not firearms, as ammunition doesn't need a background check.
 
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