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WelperHelper99 said:
Saw that video. I think the price is a scale thing rn, agree with Cappy. Only the US is using 6.8x51mm, and only in small batches. Get it going in mass production and adopt it throughout NATO, costs will drop. I say that because the regular brass training round costs more than 300 win mag, despite using less powder and having a lighter bullet
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EXCEPT NATO won't adopt it..... For decades if ever

It's a caliber that only exists because Mark "White rage" Milley wanted a legacy to leave behind
 
Falcos_Commisar said:
EXCEPT NATO won't adopt it..... For decades if ever

It's a caliber that only exists because Mark "White rage" Milley wanted a legacy to leave behind
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It depends on how hard the US pushes tbh. If the program fizzles out, no. Or it takes decades like 5.56. Yes it was a pet project. That said it all depends on how it's marketed to how well it succeds.
 
SHIGGSHOGG said:
Tbh DU would be THE best thing as long as it was like a sealed FMJ or something and you didn't give a shit about that land. I'd hope it isn't used in Taiwan, more for an offensive thing where you're gonna fuck their grandkids even if you have to back out.
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NATO (read: US) used DU in Yugoslavia during the breakup and didn't admit it until much later. When they finally did, they said that they used it in "targets of convenience" and therefore did not keep records of DU usage places. I guarantee you the same will be in a Taiwan conflict given that Taiwan is slated to fall.
WelperHelper99 said:
DU would be awesome for penetration. And cheaper than tungsten. It just would be a hard sell internationally.
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I mean, the US scrapped the Yucca national radioactive waste repository, all that waste has to go somewhere. It's not like the US fights wars on it's own soils so they wouldn't give a fuck.
 
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Pioneer Arms announced they are going out of business today.View attachment 6429476
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RIP

As for DU munitions: I think its a foregone conclusion the US will use it in small arms. its a perfect solution, we know how to use it (its what tank AP rounds are made of) and have massive, massive stockpiles of it. DU has nice side-effect too. its incendiary. when it hits armor it the powder/dust it produces self ignites. IIRC in oxides video you can see this. also in its inert form inside the projectile it has no adverse effects on health, and when it's powderized in a destroyed vehicle its not really a radiation concern but one of heavy metal poisoning.

in the next proper war the US will have DU 5.56, 7.62 and 6.8 most ricky-tic. hell if it was already a accepted AP solution we wouldn't have even neede 6.8 but here we are.
 
Had to send my .300 PRC back to Christensen Arms because it was having a shit ton of trouble with 225 grain Hornady ELD-M rounds. If I didn't take a brass 12 gauge brush and use it clean the chamber neck/throat area after every 20 rounds or so, I'd get spent brass stuck in the chamber or the bolt would be so fucking hard to operate I'd end up busting my knuckles on the scope trying to cycle it.

Learn a lesson from me, gents. If you want a serious LR rifle, get one custom built. If you want one that's decent for a decent price, pick up a Bergara or a Tikka and put a Leupold Mark 4 on it.
 
Curious to see how many of the mid-size companies continue to go out of business. My personal experiences(walking into my LGS and going to public ranges) tells me the middle of the market has fallen out. Plenty of people at the range, maybe more than the last couple years, but guns aren't moving. Exceptions being higher end stuff, suppressors, and the newest short supply CCW hotness(new p365 models, S&W Bodyguard 2.0).
 
Romulus augustulus said:
RIP

As for DU munitions: I think its a foregone conclusion the US will use it in small arms. its a perfect solution, we know how to use it (its what tank AP rounds are made of) and have massive, massive stockpiles of it. DU has nice side-effect too. its incendiary. when it hits armor it the powder/dust it produces self ignites. IIRC in oxides video you can see this. also in its inert form inside the projectile it has no adverse effects on health, and when it's powderized in a destroyed vehicle its not really a radiation concern but one of heavy metal poisoning.

in the next proper war the US will have DU 5.56, 7.62 and 6.8 most ricky-tic. hell if it was already a accepted AP solution we wouldn't have even neede 6.8 but here we are.
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I litterly can't wait to test it on blue helmets during ww3.
Now I have an erection at work, again.
The idea of an AR vomiting DU into commie filth is just my sexuality kink. Don't shame me.
 
likeacrackado said:
Curious to see how many of the mid-size companies continue to go out of business. My personal experiences(walking into my LGS and going to public ranges) tells me the middle of the market has fallen out. Plenty of people at the range, maybe more than the last couple years, but guns aren't moving. Exceptions being higher end stuff, suppressors, and the newest short supply CCW hotness(new p365 models, S&W Bodyguard 2.0).
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Yep the overall gun market is in the absolute SHITTER at the moment.

I'm talking you can get ANYTHING under STACATTO/Nighthawk under MSRP all day everyday, even stuff that literally dropped last week (looking at you new Marlin stainless lever guns)

The Desert Techs and Pioneer arms of the world are getting eaten alive.

The Big players (S&W, SIG, Glock, Taurus, Ruger and so on) will be A OK.

Romulus augustulus said:
RIP

As for DU munitions: I think its a foregone conclusion the US will use it in small arms. its a perfect solution, we know how to use it (its what tank AP rounds are made of) and have massive, massive stockpiles of it. DU has nice side-effect too. its incendiary. when it hits armor it the powder/dust it produces self ignites. IIRC in oxides video you can see this. also in its inert form inside the projectile it has no adverse effects on health, and when it's powderized in a destroyed vehicle its not really a radiation concern but one of heavy metal poisoning.

in the next proper war the US will have DU 5.56, 7.62 and 6.8 most ricky-tic. hell if it was already a accepted AP solution we wouldn't have even neede 6.8 but here we are.
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My Tikka T3X CTR has a nice vortex Viper 3-15x gen 2 (PST I think) in Mrad/mils.

.308 out of a 20 inch barrel.... I doubt I could use much more scope although the Leopold Mk4 4.5-18 or the Athlon/Meopta 4.5-29x certainly seem neat.....

Modern long range / precision scopes have gotten RIDICULOUSLY good on the last 10 years.

I still remember when 3-9x was the standard and considered all you'll every need....
 
Falcos_Commisar said:
My Tikka T3X CTR has a nice vortex Viper 3-15x gen 2 (PST I think) in Mrad/mils.

.308 out of a 20 inch barrel.... I doubt I could use much more scope although the Leopold Mk4 4.5-18 or the Athlon/Meopta 4.5-29x certainly seem neat.....

Modern long range / precision scopes have gotten RIDICULOUSLY good on the last 10 years.

I still remember when 3-9x was the standard and considered all you'll every need....
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did you mean to reply to me?
Speaking of precision rifles, these are the ones i lust over:
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Does anyone have experience with a combination gun? I'm thinking about getting one as a truck gun.

I'm thinking a TPS in .357 and .410 bore. The .357 will be for deer and two legged game and the .410 for birds, squirrel, and other small critters.
 
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Clostridium Botulinum said:
Does anyone have experience with a combination gun? I'm thinking about getting one as a truck gun.

I'm thinking a TPS in .357 and .410 bore. The .357 will be for deer and two legged game and the .410 for birds, squirrel, and other small critters.
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a .410 for birds is a experts gun FYI. the small amount of shot and the "stringing" of the shot column makes it difficult to use on moving game. 28 gauge would be better.
 
Romulus augustulus said:
a .410 for birds is a experts gun FYI. the small amount of shot and the "stringing" of the shot column makes it difficult to use on moving game. 28 gauge would be better.
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First gun I ever had was a break action .410 my father bought me for bird and squirrel hunting. God that gun was terrible for anything but rabbits.
 
Romulus augustulus said:
a .410 for birds is a experts gun FYI. the small amount of shot and the "stringing" of the shot column makes it difficult to use on moving game. 28 gauge would be better.
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True. I really wish Savage still made the .30-30/12 GA models. A bit heavy but adequate for almost anything north America has to offer
 
Falcos_Commisar said:
My Tikka T3X CTR has a nice vortex Viper 3-15x gen 2 (PST I think) in Mrad/mils.

.308 out of a 20 inch barrel.... I doubt I could use much more scope although the Leopold Mk4 4.5-18 or the Athlon/Meopta 4.5-29x certainly seem neat.....

Modern long range / precision scopes have gotten RIDICULOUSLY good on the last 10 years.

I still remember when 3-9x was the standard and considered all you'll every need....
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I thought you cannot own firearms in India?
 
Happy Parabellum Day (9/19).

This is the ideal pistol cartridge. You may not like it, but this is what peak all-around performance looks like. Soldiers, cops, civilians, and criminals alike all agree.

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Meat Target said:
Happy Parabellum Day (9/19).

This is the ideal pistol cartridge. You may not like it, but this is what peak all-around performance looks like. Soldiers, cops, civilians, and criminals alike all agree.

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Once again, I am compelled to shill that SGAmmo has Federal 9BPLE for about $25 per box of 50. No other known good SD round is as affordable as this one, and as a bonus the new high pressure 9x19 rounds that the military is using is loaded to near the same spec (1350 fps), and can be had for around .28 per rnd. Not that I should point out the obvious, but training with rounds loaded similarly to the serious rounds is always a good thing, as changing the bullet weight can influence point of aim vs point of impact quite a bit.

Of course, if you're going to use spicy stuff like this, its not gonna work in garbage guns, so maybe don't buy these rounds unless its for a military grade pistol.
 
♂CANAM productions♂ said:
NATO (read: US) used DU in Yugoslavia during the breakup and didn't admit it until much later. When they finally did, they said that they used it in "targets of convenience" and therefore did not keep records of DU usage places. I guarantee you the same will be in a Taiwan conflict given that Taiwan is slated to fall.

I mean, the US scrapped the Yucca national radioactive waste repository, all that waste has to go somewhere. It's not like the US fights wars on it's own soils so they wouldn't give a fuck.
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Romulus augustulus said:
RIP

As for DU munitions: I think its a foregone conclusion the US will use it in small arms. its a perfect solution, we know how to use it (its what tank AP rounds are made of) and have massive, massive stockpiles of it. DU has nice side-effect too. its incendiary. when it hits armor it the powder/dust it produces self ignites. IIRC in oxides video you can see this. also in its inert form inside the projectile it has no adverse effects on health, and when it's powderized in a destroyed vehicle its not really a radiation concern but one of heavy metal poisoning.

in the next proper war the US will have DU 5.56, 7.62 and 6.8 most ricky-tic. hell if it was already a accepted AP solution we wouldn't have even neede 6.8 but here we are.
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DU is definitely viable, it's just a very much "oh shit we're at war" type of round where politics don't matter much anymore.
Dean Pentel said:
Had to send my .300 PRC back to Christensen Arms because it was having a shit ton of trouble with 225 grain Hornady ELD-M rounds. If I didn't take a brass 12 gauge brush and use it clean the chamber neck/throat area after every 20 rounds or so, I'd get spent brass stuck in the chamber or the bolt would be so fucking hard to operate I'd end up busting my knuckles on the scope trying to cycle it.

Learn a lesson from me, gents. If you want a serious LR rifle, get one custom built. If you want one that's decent for a decent price, pick up a Bergara or a Tikka and put a Leupold Mark 4 on it.
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As a fellow 300 (win) magnum owner, I feel that bro. Hopefully they fix her up and you get to shoot 1600 yards again.
Falcos_Commisar said:
My Tikka T3X CTR has a nice vortex Viper 3-15x gen 2 (PST I think) in Mrad/mils.

.308 out of a 20 inch barrel.... I doubt I could use much more scope although the Leopold Mk4 4.5-18 or the Athlon/Meopta 4.5-29x certainly seem neat.....

Modern long range / precision scopes have gotten RIDICULOUSLY good on the last 10 years.

I still remember when 3-9x was the standard and considered all you'll every need....
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I run a 4-12x vortex on my 300 win mag, honestly find it perfect given the limits of the rifle itself. Had a 3-9x, it was OK.
 
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