Mega Rad Gun Thread

[The Dude]

I'm hoping H&K USA ends up making US made HK433s. I really dig them.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

And even if Big Army was able to mass issue tungsten carbide core ammunition (they can't and wouldn't) two things

I have a sneaking suspicion that if it's over Taiwan and not REMOTELY close to US soil they will use Depleted Uranium instead of tungsten.

 

[BikeLock]

VP9 is the best gun HK has ever made. Don’t @ me.

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I've owned and fired several different brands of striker guns.
I have a Glock only because they're prolific.
I have a VP9 because I like it. A lot.

 

[WelperHelper99]

I've been thinking about snub-nose revolvers, and I bet you could make a pretty small cylinder if you're only trying to hold 4 round of .45acp with moon clips. Give it a good trigger, an internal hammer for DAO, and some decent grips and I'd have a perfect back-up for my G21.

That would be pretty cool ngl. I could see Tauras doing that. Don't know why, but it feels like their wheelhouse.

I have a sneaking suspicion that if it's over Taiwan and not REMOTELY close to US soil they will use Depleted Uranium instead of tungsten.

DU small arms ammo would certainly be a sight to behold. We don't actually know what 6.8x51mm AP is made of, other than its 15 bucks a round currently. Could be the case, could be it's using tungsten, who knows.

 

[SHIGGSHOGG]

DU small arms ammo would certainly be a sight to behold. We don't actually know what 6.8x51mm AP is made of, other than its 15 bucks a round currently. Could be the case, could be it's using tungsten, who knows.

You probably saw the Oxide video where he somehow got a couple .308s and ended up firing them in a jank manner. Even when very undercharged one of them blazed straight through a plate with a super clean and tiny hole.

Tbh DU would be THE best thing as long as it was like a sealed FMJ or something and you didn't give a shit about that land. I'd hope it isn't used in Taiwan, more for an offensive thing where you're gonna fuck their grandkids even if you have to back out.

As for price, I wonder if that's the real price or just the "list price" and then they pay 1/3 that like they do with all their shit. Although Cappy is a fedfag, he did bring to attention that the factory may be trying to pay off their new machinery and maybe new building within a reasonable timeframe.
Still, I wouldn't be willing to make those projectiles for that much, TC is some hard shit to deal with as it either has to be sintered in shape or diamond ground.

 

[WelperHelper99]

You probably saw the Oxide video where he somehow got a couple .308s and ended up firing them in a jank manner. Even when very undercharged one of them blazed straight through a plate with a super clean and tiny hole.

Tbh DU would be THE best thing as long as it was like a sealed FMJ or something and you didn't give a shit about that land. I'd hope it isn't used in Taiwan, more for an offensive thing where you're gonna fuck their grandkids even if you have to back out.

DU would be awesome for penetration. And cheaper than tungsten. It just would be a hard sell internationally. But it would be worth it if the horde you're going against is decked out in Level IV and driving around in older lightly armored vehicles.

That's another thing. If 6.8 performs as advertised, old cold war vehicles are vulnerable as fuck. A guy with a XM7 can flip on full auto, mag dump 20-25 rounds of super ammo into a light skinned APC or truck and disable it.

Also no haven't seen that video. Do u have it?

As for price, I wonder if that's the real price or just the "list price" and then they pay 1/3 that like they do with all their shit. Although Cappy is a fedfag, he did bring to attention that the factory may be trying to pay off their new machinery and maybe new building within a reasonable timeframe.
Still, I wouldn't be willing to make those projectiles for that much, TC is some hard shit to deal with as it either has to be sintered in shape or diamond ground.

Saw that video. I think the price is a scale thing rn, agree with Cappy. Only the US is using 6.8x51mm, and only in small batches. Get it going in mass production and adopt it throughout NATO, costs will drop. I say that because the regular brass training round costs more than 300 win mag, despite using less powder and having a lighter bullet.

 

[Belgians in the Congo]

I could see Taurus* doing that.

Same, especially considering that they released this meme a decade ago.

I think it may be the silliest .38 special ever made (for the life of me I could've swore they made some of these in .32 acp but I can't find them, probably misremembering their .32 sw models), production didn't last long at all but they did sell some!

 

[SHIGGSHOGG]

video?

Sounds like this things are incredibly rare and were a pretty shady thing when made. I bet these things have been used, but we'll probably never hear about it.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5LIQrkQi9LU&t=282s&pp=2AGaApACAQ%3D%3D

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DtdmsZ4Csn8&t=361s&pp=2AHpApACAQ%3D%3D

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NyZ6fnFx-bc

 

[WelperHelper99]

Same, especially considering that they released this meme a decade ago.
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I think it may be the silliest .38 special ever made (for the life of me I could've swore they made some of these in .32 acp but I can't find them, probably misremembering their .32 sw models), production didn't last long at all but they did sell some!

That's adorable. But yeah. If anyone is going to make a 4 shot 45 acp pocket revolver, it's Taurus, they know how to meme, intentionally or not.

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

Saw that video. I think the price is a scale thing rn, agree with Cappy. Only the US is using 6.8x51mm, and only in small batches. Get it going in mass production and adopt it throughout NATO, costs will drop. I say that because the regular brass training round costs more than 300 win mag, despite using less powder and having a lighter bullet

EXCEPT NATO won't adopt it..... For decades if ever

It's a caliber that only exists because Mark "White rage" Milley wanted a legacy to leave behind

 

[WelperHelper99]

EXCEPT NATO won't adopt it..... For decades if ever

It's a caliber that only exists because Mark "White rage" Milley wanted a legacy to leave behind

It depends on how hard the US pushes tbh. If the program fizzles out, no. Or it takes decades like 5.56. Yes it was a pet project. That said it all depends on how it's marketed to how well it succeds.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

Tbh DU would be THE best thing as long as it was like a sealed FMJ or something and you didn't give a shit about that land. I'd hope it isn't used in Taiwan, more for an offensive thing where you're gonna fuck their grandkids even if you have to back out.

NATO (read: US) used DU in Yugoslavia during the breakup and didn't admit it until much later. When they finally did, they said that they used it in "targets of convenience" and therefore did not keep records of DU usage places. I guarantee you the same will be in a Taiwan conflict given that Taiwan is slated to fall.

DU would be awesome for penetration. And cheaper than tungsten. It just would be a hard sell internationally.

I mean, the US scrapped the Yucca national radioactive waste repository, all that waste has to go somewhere. It's not like the US fights wars on it's own soils so they wouldn't give a fuck.

 

[TerminalTryHard]

Pioneer Arms announced they are going out of business today.

 

[Romulus augustulus]

Pioneer Arms announced they are going out of business today.View attachment 6429476

RIP

As for DU munitions: I think its a foregone conclusion the US will use it in small arms. its a perfect solution, we know how to use it (its what tank AP rounds are made of) and have massive, massive stockpiles of it. DU has nice side-effect too. its incendiary. when it hits armor it the powder/dust it produces self ignites. IIRC in oxides video you can see this. also in its inert form inside the projectile it has no adverse effects on health, and when it's powderized in a destroyed vehicle its not really a radiation concern but one of heavy metal poisoning.

in the next proper war the US will have DU 5.56, 7.62 and 6.8 most ricky-tic. hell if it was already a accepted AP solution we wouldn't have even neede 6.8 but here we are.

 

[Dean Pentel]

Had to send my .300 PRC back to Christensen Arms because it was having a shit ton of trouble with 225 grain Hornady ELD-M rounds. If I didn't take a brass 12 gauge brush and use it clean the chamber neck/throat area after every 20 rounds or so, I'd get spent brass stuck in the chamber or the bolt would be so fucking hard to operate I'd end up busting my knuckles on the scope trying to cycle it.

Learn a lesson from me, gents. If you want a serious LR rifle, get one custom built. If you want one that's decent for a decent price, pick up a Bergara or a Tikka and put a Leupold Mark 4 on it.

 

[likeacrackado]

Curious to see how many of the mid-size companies continue to go out of business. My personal experiences(walking into my LGS and going to public ranges) tells me the middle of the market has fallen out. Plenty of people at the range, maybe more than the last couple years, but guns aren't moving. Exceptions being higher end stuff, suppressors, and the newest short supply CCW hotness(new p365 models, S&W Bodyguard 2.0).

 

[Bassomatic]

RIP

As for DU munitions: I think its a foregone conclusion the US will use it in small arms. its a perfect solution, we know how to use it (its what tank AP rounds are made of) and have massive, massive stockpiles of it. DU has nice side-effect too. its incendiary. when it hits armor it the powder/dust it produces self ignites. IIRC in oxides video you can see this. also in its inert form inside the projectile it has no adverse effects on health, and when it's powderized in a destroyed vehicle its not really a radiation concern but one of heavy metal poisoning.

in the next proper war the US will have DU 5.56, 7.62 and 6.8 most ricky-tic. hell if it was already a accepted AP solution we wouldn't have even neede 6.8 but here we are.

I litterly can't wait to test it on blue helmets during ww3.
Now I have an erection at work, again.
The idea of an AR vomiting DU into commie filth is just my sexuality kink. Don't shame me.

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

Curious to see how many of the mid-size companies continue to go out of business. My personal experiences(walking into my LGS and going to public ranges) tells me the middle of the market has fallen out. Plenty of people at the range, maybe more than the last couple years, but guns aren't moving. Exceptions being higher end stuff, suppressors, and the newest short supply CCW hotness(new p365 models, S&W Bodyguard 2.0).

Yep the overall gun market is in the absolute SHITTER at the moment.

I'm talking you can get ANYTHING under STACATTO/Nighthawk under MSRP all day everyday, even stuff that literally dropped last week (looking at you new Marlin stainless lever guns)

The Desert Techs and Pioneer arms of the world are getting eaten alive.

The Big players (S&W, SIG, Glock, Taurus, Ruger and so on) will be A OK.

RIP

As for DU munitions: I think its a foregone conclusion the US will use it in small arms. its a perfect solution, we know how to use it (its what tank AP rounds are made of) and have massive, massive stockpiles of it. DU has nice side-effect too. its incendiary. when it hits armor it the powder/dust it produces self ignites. IIRC in oxides video you can see this. also in its inert form inside the projectile it has no adverse effects on health, and when it's powderized in a destroyed vehicle its not really a radiation concern but one of heavy metal poisoning.

in the next proper war the US will have DU 5.56, 7.62 and 6.8 most ricky-tic. hell if it was already a accepted AP solution we wouldn't have even neede 6.8 but here we are.

My Tikka T3X CTR has a nice vortex Viper 3-15x gen 2 (PST I think) in Mrad/mils.

.308 out of a 20 inch barrel.... I doubt I could use much more scope although the Leopold Mk4 4.5-18 or the Athlon/Meopta 4.5-29x certainly seem neat.....

Modern long range / precision scopes have gotten RIDICULOUSLY good on the last 10 years.

I still remember when 3-9x was the standard and considered all you'll every need....

 

[Romulus augustulus]

My Tikka T3X CTR has a nice vortex Viper 3-15x gen 2 (PST I think) in Mrad/mils.

.308 out of a 20 inch barrel.... I doubt I could use much more scope although the Leopold Mk4 4.5-18 or the Athlon/Meopta 4.5-29x certainly seem neat.....

Modern long range / precision scopes have gotten RIDICULOUSLY good on the last 10 years.

I still remember when 3-9x was the standard and considered all you'll every need....

did you mean to reply to me?
Speaking of precision rifles, these are the ones i lust over:

 

[Clostridium Botulinum]

Does anyone have experience with a combination gun? I'm thinking about getting one as a truck gun.

I'm thinking a TPS in .357 and .410 bore. The .357 will be for deer and two legged game and the .410 for birds, squirrel, and other small critters.