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Well I decided on what to keep my California featureless long term build as.

I replaced the ambi safety with a Colt single side safety, replaced the Strike Industries fin grip with their Megafin grip that has a thumb rest, replaced the Magpul MOE fixed stock with the Magpul MOE adjustable stock and fixed it with the Strike Industries stock stop. And decided to replace a hand stop I placed on it with an angled grip and attached those textured Magpul mlok rail covers. Also using a Sig Sauer Romeo 5 Red Dot as well. I attached some Odin flashlight and sling swivel as well to my dominant side as well.

I guess it makes it easy to make fast changes once I get out of this shithole as all I need to do is remove the stock stop to make it adjustable again and replace the fin grip with a pistol grip.

I have to say this is like adult legos and no idea how much stuff I would aftermarket stuff I would buy along with maintenance tools like a torque wrench and a toolset and managing to figure out how to attach mlok attachments.

My rifle is a free floating handguard, I guess If the Smith and Wesson MP 15 Sport 2 was around at the time I was looking to buy, probably would not be caring much about rail attachments lol.
Nice! As far as the adult Lego thing goes, I hear yas. I think I like building ARs more than shooting them. The problem is that I've settled on a "type" by now. Semi-lightweight, skinny free-float M-LOK rails and a dot + QD magnifier. Maybe I'll do a 18+" varmint thing again down the road, but I gave away the last one I built to a friend just because I hated lugging that 10# (with optic) bitch around and they did me a huge solid last year that I felt that I owed them for.
 
Anyone have a solid AR15 Red dot/reflex/holo they would recommend for CQB use? Not looking for budget bottom barrel or top of the line EOTECH, just something good that excels best in short range situations.
 
Anyone have a solid AR15 Red dot/reflex/holo they would recommend for CQB use? Not looking for budget bottom barrel or top of the line EOTECH, just something good that excels best in short range situations.
I'd personally recommend either an Aimpoint of any flavor or an Eotech for the donut of death. I prefer the Eotech over the Aimpoint because of that. You can find both used for reasonable prices on places like Arfcom, TacSwap, Reddits Gun Accessories for Sale sub, etc.
 
I'd personally recommend either an Aimpoint of any flavor or an Eotech for the donut of death. I prefer the Eotech over the Aimpoint because of that. You can find both used for reasonable prices on places like Arfcom, TacSwap, Reddits Gun Accessories for Sale sub, etc.
These are the real operator options, but if you don't mind the 'Chinesium but surprisingly not terrible' version, the HoloSun HS503G has been pretty solid for me. It has multiple reticle options (chevron/BDC or chevron/BDC/horseshoe) and runs for ages on a 2032 battery. The horseshoe is fantastic for up close and the chevron + BDC dots are great if you decide to use it with a magnifier.
 
solid AR15 Red dot
Aimpoint PRO is the general one i recommend to most people as a budget-friendly all-work optic that's flexible with most firearms (from SMGs, to patrol rifles, to shotguns) that you can just move it around as needed and not need to bother it too much. the Romeo 5 is another budget-friendly optic that has some minor improvements in electronics over the competing Holosun 403, but both are equally good choices for most shooters that are recreational and want a decent optic for not a lot of money that will also do double duty as a hunting or defense option.

the Vortex Sparc optics are also fairly decent for the money, although limited on mounting options and some don't like how high they sit naturally out of the box. the Vortex Venom and Burris Fastfire are micro red dots that you can sometimes find with a 1913 or weaver mount included, and if the price is right (about $200-$250 for the latest gen with Burris being about $50 cheaper on average since the last gen ones generally get discounted steeply) and the mount is included, these budget-friendly micro red dots can certainly be quite the option. just be aware that the viewport is pretty small and some people get super annoyed by that.

one of the better budget options is the Bushnell TRS-25, a budget red-dot option assembled in Taiwan from Japanese and Taiwanese components for global sale. while it looks similar to less expensive red dots, the TRS-25 is a properly fog/shock proof, inert-gas purged, optic that works quite well for recreational shooters. AT3 is a chinese-made clone of the TRS-25 with some differences in housing, but is also reasonably decent. there are others you can find out there, but these tend to be the more popular optics i run through for most customers i deal with. generally once the price you want to spend on the optic goes under about $100 or so, the designs tend to converge. in this range you will also find some Sightmark optics, which have decent features, but sometimes have a tough time with heavy recoil and iffy electronics.

used options from Aimpoint (example: Comp2 or Comp4 from ebay) or Trijicon (example: a much maligned MRO from arfcom) or some of the older brands that don't really make them anymore but the label is still used (Hakko, Weaver, Redfield, Realistic, et c) are a bit beyond the scope of the post.

a mention for Eotech: if you have astigmatism, many true laser-generated holographic optics will not work well for you as the laser generated reticle will usually break up into an incomprehensible series of dots. try before buying one to make sure it will work with your eyes.
 
Anyone have a solid AR15 Red dot/reflex/holo they would recommend for CQB use? Not looking for budget bottom barrel or top of the line EOTECH, just something good that excels best in short range situations.
I use a Sig Sauer Romeo 5. It's nice and sleek, fitting the profile of my rifle. Not a fragile-looking open sight, nor a big honker Trijicon.
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I'd personally recommend either an Aimpoint of any flavor or an Eotech for the donut of death. I prefer the Eotech over the Aimpoint because of that. You can find both used for reasonable prices on places like Arfcom, TacSwap, Reddits Gun Accessories for Sale sub, etc.
Thanks for the places to check for used, do you have a particular Eotech model you'd recommend. I've only used optics planet for looking so far which comes off with a "cheaper than dirt" price gouging feel.
Aimpoint PRO is the general one i recommend to most people as a budget-friendly all-work optic that's flexible with most firearms (from SMGs, to patrol rifles, to shotguns) that you can just move it around as needed and not need to bother it too much. the Romeo 5 is another budget-friendly optic that has some minor improvements in electronics over the competing Holosun 403, but both are equally good choices for most shooters that are recreational and want a decent optic for not a lot of money that will also do double duty as a hunting or defense option.

the Vortex Sparc optics are also fairly decent for the money, although limited on mounting options and some don't like how high they sit naturally out of the box. the Vortex Venom and Burris Fastfire are micro red dots that you can sometimes find with a 1913 or weaver mount included, and if the price is right (about $200-$250 for the latest gen with Burris being about $50 cheaper on average since the last gen ones generally get discounted steeply) and the mount is included, these budget-friendly micro red dots can certainly be quite the option. just be aware that the viewport is pretty small and some people get super annoyed by that.

one of the better budget options is the Bushnell TRS-25, a budget red-dot option assembled in Taiwan from Japanese and Taiwanese components for global sale. while it looks similar to less expensive red dots, the TRS-25 is a properly fog/shock proof, inert-gas purged, optic that works quite well for recreational shooters. AT3 is a chinese-made clone of the TRS-25 with some differences in housing, but is also reasonably decent. there are others you can find out there, but these tend to be the more popular optics i run through for most customers i deal with. generally once the price you want to spend on the optic goes under about $100 or so, the designs tend to converge. in this range you will also find some Sightmark optics, which have decent features, but sometimes have a tough time with heavy recoil and iffy electronics.

used options from Aimpoint (example: Comp2 or Comp4 from ebay) or Trijicon (example: a much maligned MRO from arfcom) or some of the older brands that don't really make them anymore but the label is still used (Hakko, Weaver, Redfield, Realistic, et c) are a bit beyond the scope of the post.

a mention for Eotech: if you have astigmatism, many true laser-generated holographic optics will not work well for you as the laser generated reticle will usually break up into an incomprehensible series of dots. try before buying one to make sure it will work with your eyes.
Thanks for all the info on these. With the price seemingly pretty close to Eotechs, What advantage would I get with this style close range over the holo's? They may be a little too budget for what I'm looking for, but what's the difference between the bushnell TRS-25 and TRS-26?


I figure I should specify more details and ask some questions: AR is currently rockin a A2 front post which I would prefer to 1/3rd co-witness, but I feel like realistically for close-medium range that may be ridiculously high with the A2's height. The reason I'm being a little anal about it is because my goal is to build a second upper that will be more prioritized to something like a low power scope.

I will say I am curious that almost everything mentioned has be "true red dots", aka tube style. I am concerned about the ability to have good field of view while using it, and my understanding is that reflex/holographic are much friendlier is this regard, but it sounds like a true red dot is not as bad as I thought? edumacate me guys.
 
Quick question for those more experienced than me, a while back I was given a pallet of dirty, and I mean DIRTY, 7.62 x 39 ammo. About 1200 rounds.
I've already cleaned and shot a few rounds just to make sure they cycled alright and didn't jam. (They did fine)

But, I'm wondering what your opinions are on corroded, dirty ammo. At what point is the ammo just too far gone to bring back? And are there any things I can look out for while inspecting to signify a particularly dangerous round?

Btw, My tactic for cleaning was to put a single round into my hand drill and run it against steel wool, adding a bit of isopropyl alcohol to help clean it up.
 
Thanks for the places to check for used, do you have a particular Eotech model you'd recommend. I've only used optics planet for looking so far which comes off with a "cheaper than dirt" price gouging feel.

Thanks for all the info on these. With the price seemingly pretty close to Eotechs, What advantage would I get with this style close range over the holo's? They may be a little too budget for what I'm looking for, but what's the difference between the bushnell TRS-25 and TRS-26?


I figure I should specify more details and ask some questions: AR is currently rockin a A2 front post which I would prefer to 1/3rd co-witness, but I feel like realistically for close-medium range that may be ridiculously high with the A2's height. The reason I'm being a little anal about it is because my goal is to build a second upper that will be more prioritized to something like a low power scope.

I will say I am curious that almost everything mentioned has be "true red dots", aka tube style. I am concerned about the ability to have good field of view while using it, and my understanding is that reflex/holographic are much friendlier is this regard, but it sounds like a true red dot is not as bad as I thought? edumacate me guys.
With either a reflex sight or a tube-style dot, you'll be running it both eyes open - field of view is basically as normal unless you stick a magnifier behind it.
 
Quick question for those more experienced than me, a while back I was given a pallet of dirty, and I mean DIRTY, 7.62 x 39 ammo. About 1200 rounds.
I've already cleaned and shot a few rounds just to make sure they cycled alright and didn't jam. (They did fine)

But, I'm wondering what your opinions are on corroded, dirty ammo. At what point is the ammo just too far gone to bring back? And are there any things I can look out for while inspecting to signify a particularly dangerous round?

Btw, My tactic for cleaning was to put a single round into my hand drill and run it against steel wool, adding a bit of isopropyl alcohol to help clean it up.
Can't speak to cleaning but I'll take it off your hands if you'd like
 
Good to know, so why would one go with a holosun 510 vs a 503, and vice versa. Price indicates the 510 is "better" but what's the reality?
They both just let you put dot on target with unlimited eye relief and pull trigger until dead. The only thing that I don't like about open reflex sights like the 510 is that the emitter can get shit like mud or snow stuck in it and then the sight is out of action until you clear it. Not a problem on a square range, but potentially an issue if you're actually using it seriously outdoors.

It's the same reason I'm waiting for a deal on the Aimpoint Acro as my first pistol dot that isn't on my Mk IV.
 
Thanks for the places to check for used, do you have a particular Eotech model you'd recommend. I've only used optics planet for looking so far which comes off with a "cheaper than dirt" price gouging feel.
I have a 552 on my duty gun but the XPS is the latest hotness because it's shorter. Though like I said, you can find both used for much less than retail. LPVOs are the new trend in rifle optics so a lot of people have been getting rid of their 1x sights.

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You're going to be waiting a long time for that deal. Even with the first responder/military discount, they're still over $600 from Aimpoint USA.
 
Thanks for all the info on these. With the price seemingly pretty close to Eotechs, What advantage would I get with this style close range over the holo's? They may be a little too budget for what I'm looking for, but what's the difference between the bushnell TRS-25 and TRS-26?
not sure what "this style close range" is, but a holographic weapon sight uses a prism and several mirrors to split and recreate a pattern from a laser diode, in theory allowing for a parallax free image that has a consistent size and relative position regardless of the viewer's position. a more typical emitter and refractor arrangement will appear to change size and position as the viewer moves their head.

the TRS-26 is a product improvement over the TRS-25 incorporating an Aimpoint T-1/H-1 compatible mount, additional adjustment settings for brightness and zero, and improved battery life, but at the cost of much higher weight. the TRS-25 is both less expensive, less complex, and lighter.

I figure I should specify more details and ask some questions: AR is currently rockin a A2 front post which I would prefer to 1/3rd co-witness, but I feel like realistically for close-medium range that may be ridiculously high with the A2's height. The reason I'm being a little anal about it is because my goal is to build a second upper that will be more prioritized to something like a low power scope.
co-witness is usually more about your ability to not be distracted by your back up sights than the optic choice itself. some prefer 1/3rd co-witness to remove clutter from the field of view which others prefer consistency with their stance and presentation and opt to ignore or remove/fold their back up sights away. the optic choice has very little to do with it unless it is difficult to get a mount for it at the height over bore you need to achieve your desired co-witness.

I will say I am curious that almost everything mentioned has be "true red dots", aka tube style. I am concerned about the ability to have good field of view while using it, and my understanding is that reflex/holographic are much friendlier is this regard, but it sounds like a true red dot is not as bad as I thought? edumacate me guys.
"true red dot" is an interesting way to describe them. the "tube style" is a consequence of the emitter technology started by Aimpoint for their refractive lens system. while it's true that a reflex optic (one that has a purposely thin bezel to minimize the "tube" effect) generally does provide a wider field of view, unless you are not properly focusing on your target through the optic, the optic itself should become nearly transparent when shooting as your other eye will compensate for the optic being in the way and your brain will superimpose the image, creating a ghost effect for the otherwise solid tube.

this is a hold over from how ghost ring sights work, and is illustrative of occluded "optics" as well, which is sometimes still used (have an illuminated dot in an optic and put a lens cap over the end so it cannot be seen through, then aim "through" the occluded optic with both eyes open and focus with the non-occluded eye, the red dot is also superimposed in your vision.

you generally should not use any sort of unmagnified optic with only one eye, which would be the primary cause for a bad field of view. some magnified optics can also be used both eyes open (Bindon aiming concept) for target tracking, but generally require an illuminated center dot and a relatively small eye relief / eye box where the effect works properly (Trijicon ACOGs use this design) and you should switch focus (but not close an eye) when it's time to shoot.

holographic weapon sights can be reflex or "tube" style. the difference is how the reticle is generated and made visible (laser diode and prism).

you might be better served with altering your shooting technique than focusing on a specific design of optic. if you don't want to do that, reflex optics will give you the larger field of view you want.

At what point is the ammo just too far gone to bring back? And are there any things I can look out for while inspecting to signify a particularly dangerous round?
generally any bulged, cracked, significantly dimpled or dented cases, or obvious signs of stress at the base or web (where the the case just meets the rim), or the shoulder are cartridges that might fail or induce a failure and be unsafe. corroded ammunition with verdigris (a cerulean corrosion via oxidation of brass) or rust (for steel cases) that is textured to the touch and isn't removed with scrubbing with a bit of steel wool and some oil is likely to cause a malfunction from scraping chamber walls or being weak or brittle from oxidation. discoloration or surface rust that is easily removed is unlikely to be a problem though. cartridges should also weigh nearly the same, so that's something else you can check for consistency.

very old or improperly stored cartridges can have issues with the primer or the propellent as well, with the primer losing percussive sensitivity with age as the priming material has hardened, or the powder separating over time as some of it oxidizes or was contaminated. when shooting a few safely with a remote trigger, listen to the sound volume given by the shot and ensure there isn't strangely loud or quiet reports, and that any visible muzzle flash is of equal brightness.

you can also just get a cheap bullet puller and take apart a few randomly selected cartridges and if you have a representative sample size that appears fine, the ammunition is likely to be also be in good condition, merely dirty.

Price indicates the 510 is "better" but what's the reality?
they aren't really "better", simply different in many ways. the HS503 is a more traditional enclosed red dot optic, which ruggedizes it in harsh weather and for some people, they prefer the option to use the red dot vs the compensated ring reticle without further complications. the 503 also has a few model variations for controls or a small solar panel to reduce reliance on the battery. the HS510 is an open reflex red dot optic, meant for fast target acquisition and is traditionally used in relatively clean environments that prioritizes an open field of view. while both sights can do this with effort, for some people, they find the reflex design easier to use in this fashion. the 510 also has variations with a solar panel and some reticle and control options. the mounts for the 510 are a bit harder to come by, as the HS503, being an evolved HS403, can share certain mounts.

choice between the two with boil down to budget, intended use, what the optic is attached to (some would prefer a lighter optic in place of a heavier one), and your abilities as a shooter.
 
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They both just let you put dot on target with unlimited eye relief and pull trigger until dead. The only thing that I don't like about open reflex sights like the 510 is that the emitter can get shit like mud or snow stuck in it and then the sight is out of action until you clear it. Not a problem on a square range, but potentially an issue if you're actually using it seriously outdoors.

It's the same reason I'm waiting for a deal on the Aimpoint Acro as my first pistol dot that isn't on my Mk IV.
Good to know. After doing some research, 503 with the ASCC definitely seems like my go to choice, reticle jives with me well and I like the design over both Sig's and Primary Arms' counterparts. If the 503 had a dial indicator with presets but kept all the same features, it would prob be perfect for my nitpicks.

@Club Sandwich Thanks for all the insight, really helped me know what to look for with doing my research. I have secretly been avoiding optics tbh, they are their own field of expertise in comparison to other weapon accessories and it was always kinda daunting. Sorry for the retarded phrasing, been autistically trying to watch 5 videos at once for maximum learning and brain is getting fried.


Before I set my decision in stone, I just wanted to get a final comparison of the holosun 503G vs the aimpoint pro and a wild card: sig romeo 7. The aimpoint is surely a better built product, but besides "overall quality", is there any specifics with the function of the aimpoint over the holosun? edge distortion (is this parallax?), etc?

I stumbled on the Sig romeo 7 and it kinda comes off as a aimpoint pro clone, but with a cheaper price tag. Both the aimpoint and the sig seem bigger then the holosun but besides durability, does this give any form of advantages?

Thanks again, I probably would have ended up with a piece of glass with a red sharpie mark duct-taped to my AR otherwise.
 
Good to know. After doing some research, 503 with the ASCC definitely seems like my go to choice, reticle jives with me well and I like the design over both Sig's and Primary Arms' counterparts. If the 503 had a dial indicator with presets but kept all the same features, it would prob be perfect for my nitpicks.

@Club Sandwich Thanks for all the insight, really helped me know what to look for with doing my research. I have secretly been avoiding optics tbh, they are their own field of expertise in comparison to other weapon accessories and it was always kinda daunting. Sorry for the retarded phrasing, been autistically trying to watch 5 videos at once for maximum learning and brain is getting fried.


Before I set my decision in stone, I just wanted to get a final comparison of the holosun 503G vs the aimpoint pro and a wild card: sig romeo 7. The aimpoint is surely a better built product, but besides "overall quality", is there any specifics with the function of the aimpoint over the holosun? edge distortion (is this parallax?), etc?

I stumbled on the Sig romeo 7 and it kinda comes off as a aimpoint pro clone, but with a cheaper price tag. Both the aimpoint and the sig seem bigger then the holosun but besides durability, does this give any form of advantages?

Thanks again, I probably would have ended up with a piece of glass with a red sharpie mark duct-taped to my AR otherwise.
No experience with the Romeo 7. It looks pretty chunky though. As for adjustments on the HS503G, you just have two buttons. One adjust brightness upwards, the other downwards. Press and hold - to swap between reticle options and press both to turn the sight off. From off, any button will turn it back on.

I don't know if you're looking for additional options, but this relatively new Primary Arms dot looks pretty slick and uses a simple rotary dial for illumination control. I may be picking one up soon.
 
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No experience with the Romeo 7. It looks pretty chunky though. As for adjustments on the HS503G, you just have two buttons. One adjust brightness upwards, the other downwards. Press and hold - to swap between reticle options and press both to turn the sight off. From off, any button will turn it back on.

I don't know if you're looking for additional options, but this relatively new Primary Arms dot looks pretty slick. I may be picking one up soon.
I actually just watched a video comparing that to the Holo you recommended (unless this is a slightly different model):
 
That's the one. 🙂
Yeah, this video made me really indecisive between the two. On one hand, I prefer the dial and some features on the PA, but on the other I like minimalist natural of the holosun and the little eases of saved settings and potential to turn horseshoe off, which would be nice with a mag lense.
 
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