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TerminalTryHard said:
You need to make a baseline for your range and go from there. Are you near a military base? The young guy is 5.11 might not be that suspicious. Are you deep in Bumfuck nowhere? Yeah that guy is probably not a local.
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Neither. The most I can say without PLing is that I'm in a purple area of a blood-red state, and the range is chummy with local cops, who, in my experience, are generally pro-2A.
 
Unless I'm going full schizo, I've noticed no one brought up the Garandthumb winter testing video.


Interesting stuff.

One thing I'd be interesting to see as a follow up would be if gun ponchos/covers would prevent some of the freezing aspects. Also, they said they used pmags, curious how it would go using metal mags or better yet, Lancer's.
 
Afghan Merchants Now Selling Abandoned US Arms
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Experts are worried about who might be buying them.

October 6, 2021, 2:12am

In Taliban-controlled Afghanistan, the going price for a U.S. M4 carbine assault rifle is about $4,000 – especially if it comes fitted with an under-barrel grenade launcher or laser sight.
This is according to gun merchants in Kandahar, who are now openly selling caches of American-made pistols, rifles, grenades, binoculars, night-vision goggles, radios and other military accessories, as reported by The New York Times. The various pieces of equipment were issued to the Afghan military during the United States’ failed 20-year occupation, and left behind following their evacuation.

There was a time when the merchants’ primary customers were Taliban militants; fighters engaged in open combat with Western forces who were all too willing to pay the price for American-supplied weapons and gear. But the war is over. Now the bulk of their buyers are Afghan entrepreneurs and ordinary citizens.

“American-made weapons are in great demand,” one merchant told the paper, “as they work very well and people know how to use them.”
In the two previous fiscal years ending in June, the U.S. spent more than $2.6 billion on the Afghan military, outfitting them with pistols, rifles, machine guns, rockets, Humvees and light attack aircraft, as well as huge amounts of ammunition – much of which was left in Afghanistan when the West completed its withdrawal on August 30. More sophisticated weaponry was shipped out with the evacuating U.S. forces, who also disabled the remaining helicopters and airplanes before departure.

“Everything that hasn't been destroyed is the Taliban's now,” a U.S. official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, previously told Reuters.

Taliban fighters have, in many cases, sold these weapons on to gun dealers and merchants, who are now peddling them in provinces across the country and in some cases smuggling them across the border to Pakistan, where demand is high. As one dealer told France24:

“We bought all these things from the Taliban after they conquered the Afghan army base. Now we bring them to the market to sell.”

But not all of the weapons that have fallen into Taliban hands were simply left behind or surrendered. Many of them were in fact sold directly to the militants by allies of the West – corrupt members of the Afghan security forces, the police and army, who handed their guns over to Taliban insurgents in exchange for cash long before the fall of Kabul.

Nonetheless, the collapse of the Afghan army and the swift evacuation of Western forces has provided a lucrative windfall for local weapons dealers. The U.S. alone left behind $83 billion worth of weapons, including some 600,000 small arms, 32,000 grenades, mortars, rockets and bombs and 30 million rounds of ammunition – all of which is now fuelling the country’s arms trade.

At least one Taliban spokesperson, Bilal Karimi, denied that American weapons were flooding the market, telling The Times “I totally deny this; our fighters cannot be that careless. Even a single person cannot sell a bullet in the market or smuggle it.” Other Taliban figures, however, reportedly confirmed that the number of American guns up for grabs has seen an uptick.

There are concerns that these weapons, which now seem to be in such high supply as well as demand, could fall into the possession of other militant groups such as the Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan, al-Qaida or Islamic State. Current and former U.S. officials have previously raised fears that the acquired arms could be used to kill civilians, attack U.S. interests in the region or be handed over to America’s global adversaries, including China and Russia.

Experts have also highlighted the possibility that the Taliban may hand over parts of the abandoned U.S. arsenal to China, who will subsequently reap insights into how America builds and uses its military technology, and create “a new generation of weapons and tactics tailored to U.S. vulnerabilities.” Peter Christensen, a former director of the U.S. Army’s National Cyber Range, cited leftover electronic countermeasures gear (ECMs) as a case in point.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/88npv5/surreal-photos-from-the-talibans-first-month-back-in-power
“Imagine the research and development effort that went into develop those ECM devices that were designed to counter IEDs [improvised explosive devices],” Christensen told DefenseOne. “Now, our adversaries have them. They’re going to have the software and the hardware that goes with that system. But also develop capabilities to defeat or mitigate the effectiveness of those ECM devices.”

Others, meanwhile, have flagged Pakistan – whose prime minister, Imran Khan, has openly congratulated the Taliban for “breaking the chains of slavery” – as an underestimated threat. Struan Stevenson, international lecturer on the Middle East and president of the European Iraqi Freedom Association, warned in a piece for United Press International last month that “the ongoing sale of arms to Pakistan in particular should cause grave concern in the West.”
Stevenson pointed out that thousands of Pakistani fighters have joined the Taliban, and suggested that if the group continued to exert influence in the country and ultimately oust Khan as prime minister, then “Western allies may face, for the first time, an Islamic fundamentalist enemy armed with nuclear weapons and a deadly arsenal of modern U.S.- and U.K.-built military equipment.
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MrJokerRager said:
Remember this is the same president and party that wants to ban the sale and ownership of the AR-15 lol.
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Not even the Canadians have cucked over for that shit. There's an estimated 300,000 ARs in private hands there, only 160 have been turned in under Trudy's decree.
 
White Devil said:
Yay. The finish on them is amazing.
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I took the plunge. Today PA was selling a parts kit minus FCG/grip, and it just so happens I have a spare Ergo grip and LaRue MBT 2S in my spare parts drawer.

Thinking about going the lazy route on the upper and just buying a complete 16 inch Spikes carbine upper from PA for 470. That would put me out roughly 650 total (I forgot what I paid years ago for the spare grip/trigger).

Anyone got a recommendation for an alternate upper? I don't have the tools or inclination to assemble the upper, just the lower, so it would have to be complete or assembled.
 
Cpl. Long Dong Silver said:
I took the plunge. Today PA was selling a parts kit minus FCG/grip, and it just so happens I have a spare Ergo grip and LaRue MBT 2S in my spare parts drawer.

Thinking about going the lazy route on the upper and just buying a complete 16 inch Spikes carbine upper from PA for 470. That would put me out roughly 650 total (I forgot what I paid years ago for the spare grip/trigger).

Anyone got a recommendation for an alternate upper? I don't have the tools or inclination to assemble the upper, just the lower, so it would have to be complete or assembled.
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Midwest Industry uppers are pretty fucking neat. MI has a great reputation and their products are decently priced. I personally have one of their combat uppers and it's basically a near copy of Geiselle.

You will have to get your own BCG and charging handle though.
 
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Cpl. Long Dong Silver said:
I took the plunge. Today PA was selling a parts kit minus FCG/grip, and it just so happens I have a spare Ergo grip and LaRue MBT 2S in my spare parts drawer.

Thinking about going the lazy route on the upper and just buying a complete 16 inch Spikes carbine upper from PA for 470. That would put me out roughly 650 total (I forgot what I paid years ago for the spare grip/trigger).

Anyone got a recommendation for an alternate upper? I don't have the tools or inclination to assemble the upper, just the lower, so it would have to be complete or assembled.
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Aim Surplus has a couple of complete Aero uppers in the ~$400 range currently, but they don't include the BCG or charging handle (easy enough to pick those up separately).

Here's a potentially interesting option if you want something a bit different.
 
I feel like this would have been more popular 10-15 years ago but people have already got into the Sig 365 train. Unfortunately the consumer side is constantly asking for innovation but also refusing to adopt new tech so the industry is probably going to be stuck with duds for the next few years.
 
UVB-76 said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=YazVEFqRdOUhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=fGHxrE9HXBsI feel like this would have been more popular 10-15 years ago but people have already got into the Sig 365 train. Unfortunately the consumer side is constantly asking for innovation but also refusing to adopt new tech so the industry is probably going to be stuck with duds for the next few years.
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Specs on the cartridge are not too impressive, unfortunately. With it in pistols originally designed for 9mm, it seems like they could have bumped up the chamber pressure to get it to Tokarev or at least 7.63 Mauser levels.
 
Panama said:
Specs on the cartridge are not too impressive, unfortunately. With it in pistols originally designed for 9mm, it seems like they could have bumped up the chamber pressure to get it to Tokarev or at least 7.63 Mauser levels.
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Looks like a lengthened and up-pressured .32 ACP. I didn’t watch the video, but reading Federal’s advertising the primary advantage is more rounds per magazine which couldn’t be done with the bottlenecked rounds like the Tokarev. I could see it being analogous to Federal’s .327 mag. for snubbies- a way to squeeze more ammo into a tiny platform.
 
White Devil said:
Not even the Canadians have cucked over for that shit. There's an estimated 300,000 ARs in private hands there, only 160 have been turned in under Trudy's decree.
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I don't say this every day, but, way to go Canucks.

Things are bad enough here I can't imagine living in that shithole.
 
Cpl. Long Dong Silver said:
I took the plunge. Today PA was selling a parts kit minus FCG/grip, and it just so happens I have a spare Ergo grip and LaRue MBT 2S in my spare parts drawer.

Thinking about going the lazy route on the upper and just buying a complete 16 inch Spikes carbine upper from PA for 470. That would put me out roughly 650 total (I forgot what I paid years ago for the spare grip/trigger).

Anyone got a recommendation for an alternate upper? I don't have the tools or inclination to assemble the upper, just the lower, so it would have to be complete or assembled.
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Get a PWS Mk116 Mod 2. Solid upper. Check their cannon parts section of their site and you can on occasion find an excellent deal.
 
UVB-76 said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=YazVEFqRdOUhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=fGHxrE9HXBsI feel like this would have been more popular 10-15 years ago but people have already got into the Sig 365 train. Unfortunately the consumer side is constantly asking for innovation but also refusing to adopt new tech so the industry is probably going to be stuck with duds for the next few years.
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I notice they only compared the recoil to a .45. I wonder how it compares to 9mm
Panama said:
Specs on the cartridge are not too impressive, unfortunately. With it in pistols originally designed for 9mm, it seems like they could have bumped up the chamber pressure to get it to Tokarev or at least 7.63 Mauser levels.
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Have they released the specs on the round?
 
Smoke Manmuscle said:
I notice they only compared the recoil to a .45. I wonder how it compares to 9mm

Have they released the specs on the round?
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Just velocity, bullet weight, and expansion of whatever load they’re selling so far. I’m very curious about the SAAMI specs, but I haven’t seen those yet. They may be self limiting to encourage chambering in micro compacts that could otherwise be battered by a full power load.
 
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