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Plate Carrier question:

Looking into 2 in particular: the Crye JPC 2.0 and the Defense Mechanism MEPC. I looked around and feel these are the 2 I see the most love for that are below the $300 line that don't seem sketchy.

I was curious if anyone here has experience with either. The MEPC seems appealing but it virtually the same price as the Crye, which I know is a proven system. The only particular advantages I see to the MEPC is that you pick out the cummerbund as you buy it, so you at least have a choice unlike the Crye, and that the MEPC comes in M81.

Bonus questions for anyone who knows their shit:
1) I hear people bitch about the weight once wet. I don't plan on going swimming but would living in a place that gets decent amount of rain and seasonal snow warrant a water friendly pc? (like the JPC swimmer or the Spiritus OTB?)

2) I know I personally want molle on my cummerbunds for attaching things, but in general, I am a little confused about all the options, if anyone could offer a nitty gritty breakdown that would be swell.
 
Xx_Retard Faggot 1488_xX said:
Plate Carrier question:

Looking into 2 in particular: the Crye JPC 2.0 and the Defense Mechanism MEPC. I looked around and feel these are the 2 I see the most love for that are below the $300 line that don't seem sketchy.

I was curious if anyone here has experience with either. The MEPC seems appealing but it virtually the same price as the Crye, which I know is a proven system. The only particular advantages I see to the MEPC is that you pick out the cummerbund as you buy it, so you at least have a choice unlike the Crye, and that the MEPC comes in M81.

Bonus questions for anyone who knows their shit:
1) I hear people bitch about the weight once wet. I don't plan on going swimming but would living in a place that gets decent amount of rain and seasonal snow warrant a water friendly pc? (like the JPC swimmer or the Spiritus OTB?)

2) I know I personally want molle on my cummerbunds for attaching things, but in general, I am a little confused about all the options, if anyone could offer a nitty gritty breakdown that would be swell.
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JPC is a great minimalist option that you can expand on later if you want to pay the Crye tax for their accessories for it.

The water shit is negligible unless you're a gamer gunner and plan larping. Waterlogged is apparently a new concept to those morons.

To answer your second, getting those stripped down cummerbunds has been a fad in recent years but I've never seen anyone who wears armor for a living rock those things for work. Actual cummerbunds hold these useful things like more armor, more magazines, IFAKs, radios, etc.

Honestly though when choosing a plate carrier, you have to figure out what you're using it for and your intent is. If you just want something for home defense, two plate bags connected by nylon will serve you fine and reputable companies like Grey Ghost Gear make just that. If you want to larp, you have companies like Crye, First Spear etc etc. Shit, you can probably find surplus IOTVs.

Basically, for people to help you accurately, you have to know what your mission is first.
 
Xx_Retard Faggot 1488_xX said:
Crye JPC 2.0
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i've had good experience with the JPC and to a lesser extent the AVS, however i still don't think they beat my old Weesatch or LBT 6094 when i had serious work to do. shoutout to the SPC as well, because that's a really nice PC, but makes me feel fat :(. i've also worn the CIRAS Martime for a while and it worked pretty good if annoying to put on or put back together. simple rigs like Pattern 83 or something like a PACA with an LBV or PLCE worn over it was amazing in hot/humid areas since it was easy to ditch if i had to, carried a lot of stuff but was lightweight, reasonably durable, and breathable when humping gear or on patrol in rocky deserts.

good suspenders and pistol belt are worth their weight in gold imho if you need your pants to carry stuff and don't want to trip over sagging water-heavy summer weight cloth.
 
MrJokerRager said:
Is the CMMG's 22lr BCG conversion system for AR-15s reliable as far as plinking goes?
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I have one. It ran fine but because the ballistics are different i had to keep adjusting my optic back and forth for 22LR vs .223. Got sick of it and just used the conversion kit to build a dedicated 22LR upper. Tl;dr for Club Sandwich's post: they work but accuracy suffers. On the plus side, an AR with 16in 22LR upper is very light and shorter than a .223 16in upper by and inch+ (and it doesnt need any wacky grip fins or whathaveyou and you can have all the adjustable stocks and VFGs you want without making it an "assault weapon").
Nate Higgers said:
What’s a “good price” (in cpr) for you guys when talking about 9mm FMJ right now? I’ve been a gun owner for the last couple years but I started getting out to target shoot more actively in the last two months or so (great timing right). I’ve been buying all my ammo online pre and post Covid and I seem to average about $0.38-ish CPR but it averages out to like $0.52 CPR after shipping and taxes. I’m not exactly buying in bulk (the biggest boxes I buy are 100-250) but my cousin and one of my teachers said either of them would be willing to go halfers on a 1000rd brick
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Paid $0.44cpr couple weeks ago at Phoenix LGS.
 
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Tried out this babe yesterday. Very pleased. Ordered a trijicon rmr for it last night.
then will need suppressor height sights for co-witness
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White Devil said:
Basically, for people to help you accurately, you have to know what your mission is first.
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Full Larp, SHTF situation. I want something that I can maneuver in but can still carry ~5 mags (min), molle back with flat pack, ideally quick don/doff, drag handle, etc.

I did more looking today and feel that the Crye AVS and the spiritus are most appealing to me feature-wise, but money wise the JPC 2.0 seems most feasible (AVS is definitely 1st place, but i'm pricing it almost near $600 with what I want.)

I have become curious, if not carrying a ridiculous infantryman amount of ammo and shit strapped to you, does the JPC 2.0 really underperform in comparison to the AVS or Spiritus?
AGPinochet said:
I do not remember where I heard this and do not even know if it is true but I have heard that MEPCs may or may not be made in America, because allegedly Defense Mechanisms is not very open about where it is made but I cannot speak to any of that.
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Nah, Defense Mech. plasters all over their website that it's made in montana.
Club Sandwich said:
good suspenders and pistol belt are worth their weight in gold imho if you need your pants to carry stuff and don't want to trip over sagging water-heavy summer weight cloth.
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I got myself a 2 belt system, but have been considering getting a second with straps so I can keep my current one high speed/lighter loads, and use one with suspenders for heavier loadout. Have recommendations? one's I've seen are $$$.
 
Xx_Retard Faggot 1488_xX said:
Have recommendations?
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for a belt? professionally i've almost always worn the issued rigger's belt for pants, and used either the LC-2 pistol belt or the 3 gromet web belts more common in europe than the US. duty belts for police work were typically an inner/outer arrangement with the double hasp and velcro lining (Bianchi mostly and i've worn briefly an old Aker model which worked well enough but wasn't comfortable at all). my favorite was the austrian one (eagle on the buckle = cool guy points) or the belgian one i got in trade with a guy i worked with. suspenders were the matching one for that particular belt to distribute weight attached to the belt. the alternative was to use danish, czech, austrian et c suspenders that could hook under the belt since modern pants mostly lack the reinforced suspender buttons with the exception of tailored suits.

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the extra bits can be removed with a seam ripper and razor blade. this is worn over your clothing, under your jacket or blouse or whatever and is intended to help keep your pants up if you have cargo pockets bogged down with items when you're out and about in the wilderness or working a more physical job.

if you don't plan on doing that, just a normal rigger belt works well enough and if you plan on using just the belt and not wearing load bearing gear or vest that might get in the way of a holster at the waist, then i've had a lot of good experience with the HSGI Cobra belt with OWB duty holsters as well as Galco (or whatever) leather holsters, so i wasn't worried about thickness or compatibility issues with needing specific mounting brackets. the VTAC Brokos belt was more comfortable and had better utility in a "grab and go" manner, and includes a Cobra belt you can remove and wear without the attachment padding.

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also for something more low-key, a 1-3/4" double-d belt of suitably stiff material works great for IWB carry.

i hope you have some plans on actually training and getting some classes that have moving and shooting from qualified, experienced instructors, because otherwise someone that is more familiar with fighting while wearing their gear is likely going to outperform the guy that buy Brand Name brand gear they aren't familiar with or isn't broken in from use. gear and accessories aren't substitutes for training, practice, or experience.
 
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Club Sandwich said:
for a belt? professionally i've almost always worn the issued rigger's belt for pants, and used either the LC-2 pistol belt or the 3 gromet web belts more common in europe than the US. duty belts for police work were typically an inner/outer arrangement with the double hasp and velcro lining (Bianchi mostly and i've worn briefly an old Terrance Bay model which worked well enough but wasn't comfortable at all). my favorite was the austrian one (eagle on the buckle = cool guy points) or the belgian one i got in trade with a guy i worked with. suspenders were the matching one for that particular belt to distribute weight attached to the belt. the alternative was to use danish, czech, austrian et c suspenders that could hook under the belt since modern pants mostly lack the reinforced suspender buttons with the exception of tailored suits.

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the extra bits can be removed with a seam ripper and razor blade. this is worn over your clothing, under your jacket or blouse or whatever and is intended to help keep your pants up if you have cargo pockets bogged down with items when you're out and about in the wilderness or working a more physical job.

if you don't plan on doing that, just a normal rigger belt works well enough and if you plan on using just the belt and not wearing load bearing gear or vest that might get in the way of a holster at the waist, then i've had a lot of good experience with the HSGI Cobra belt with OWB duty holsters as well as Galco (or whatever) leather holsters, so i wasn't worried about thickness or compatibility issues with needing specific mounting brackets. the VTAC Brokos belt was more comfortable and had better utility in a "grab and go" manner, and includes a Cobra belt you can remove and wear without the attachment padding.

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also for something more low-key, a 1-3/4" double-d belt of suitably stiff material works great for IWB carry.

i hope you have some plans on actually training and getting some classes that have moving and shooting from qualified, experienced instructors, because otherwise someone that is more familiar with fighting while wearing their gear is likely going to outperform the guy that buy Brand Name brand gear they aren't familiar with or isn't broken in from use. gear and accessories aren't substitutes for training, practice, or experience.
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Thanks again for the info, that VTAC belt looks interesting. And yes, I have scoped out a couple separate groups that offer professional training that I will be signing up for once I get 1 more part for my AR and stock some more ammo. looking to start with some cheaper, local, less impressive ones and work my way up to some bigger/fancier courses.

I have been lurking the outer edges of the gun sphere for years, but have felt the panic urge to get more seriously invested asap, and as a result, I end up asking a lot of questions cause I feel in a rush to pick up on this shit, it also helps keep me motivated/engaged and focused on maintaining my goals (like going to the range and maintaining/improving good health.)

Currently, all I really have together right now is a simple (and relatively cheap) set-up: budget tier AR with sling & light, decent pistol, 2-layer "duty" belt with holster, airsoft-tier chest rig, and ammo.
 
Xx_Retard Faggot 1488_xX said:
Thanks again for the info, that VTAC belt looks interesting. And yes, I have scoped out a couple separate groups that offer professional training that I will be signing up for once I get 1 more part for my AR and stock some more ammo. looking to start with some cheaper, local, less impressive ones and work my way up to some bigger/fancier courses.

I have been lurking the outer edges of the gun sphere for years, but have felt the panic urge to get more seriously invested asap, and as a result, I end up asking a lot of questions cause I feel in a rush to pick up on this shit, it also helps keep me motivated/engaged and focused on maintaining my goals (like going to the range and maintaining/improving good health.)

Currently, all I really have together right now is a simple (and relatively cheap) set-up: budget tier AR with sling & light, decent pistol, 2-layer "duty" belt with holster, airsoft-tier chest rig, and ammo.
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I think what you really need to ask yourself is "What am I planning to use all this for?"
I see a lot of people that drop thousands of dollars in gear, and don't know how to use it effectively. I'm of the mindset that money spent towards training goes a lot further than for a thousand dollar carrier.
 
Xx_Retard Faggot 1488_xX said:
all I really have together right now is a simple (and relatively cheap) set-up: budget tier AR with sling & light, decent pistol, 2-layer "duty" belt with holster, airsoft-tier chest rig, and ammo.
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really, that's all you need. put a couple thousand rounds down range and pay attention to form, consistency, and repetitive motions regarding weapons manipulation and control. sometimes it helps to film yourself to determine if you are tensing up or flinching or fumbling or other details that are harder to observe in real-time or from your 1st person perspective. good instructors will work with you to identify deficiencies in marksmanship and infantry skills and suggest solutions. in the absence of an instructor, you can develop proficiency with your weapons by simply shooting at fist-sized targets at 25 meters or so. learn to use the sights, understand breathing control and kinesthetics - the way your body wants to move and reacts to recoil and impulse. determine eye dominance, if something feels strained or too big or too small, et c.

a practiced, determined, disciplined person that is consistent and has developed a good sense of self and weapon control will put someone far, far ahead of some random guy that drops cash for expensive gear they don't understand too well, barely touched, and has no confidence or practice to rely on.
 
Xx_Retard Faggot 1488_xX said:
Thanks again for the info, that VTAC belt looks interesting. And yes, I have scoped out a couple separate groups that offer professional training that I will be signing up for once I get 1 more part for my AR and stock some more ammo. looking to start with some cheaper, local, less impressive ones and work my way up to some bigger/fancier courses.
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I can second the recommendation for the VTAC belt. Well-made and lots of flexibility in terms of what you can mount on it and where.
 
MrJokerRager said:
Bravo Company Compensator Mod 1 and the Troy Industries Medieval muzzle brake
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BCM makes decent stuff, but i haven't used their muzzle brakes beyond their early Gunfighter design from years back and it was alright. the Troy Medieval brake is an old school design that works very well, but is not suppressor friendly and doesn't significantly improve on the old 4 port YHM Phantom design other than adding a glass breaker on the front. if you just have a bare muzzle and want a combination brake and compensator the Battlecomp is a bit expensive but does do a very good job at both but really any of the four mentioned work quite well.
 
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Anyone have any experience/tips for running pyrodex in cap and ball revolvers? I'm looking to pick up a smokepole in 44 in the near future (my brain says a stainless Remington NMA, my heart says Colt SAA, my balls say a Colt Walker) and dealing with BP is a pain in the arse over here whereas BP substitutes are more plentiful and less regulated.
 
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