Mega Rad Gun Thread

[Site of Origin]

I love living in a place where a registry is illegal. Sic semper tyrannis Newsom. Why don't you do something about the illegals, or real crime?

308 is a great round, very flexible, as for what you want, you know better than us, first of all laws, than your budget, you seem like you want an M1, so look into them. Personally, while i have a maybe boner for DAKKA carbines, the SOCOM is kinda not great for most users. Look into a match (imho) for most. FAL/G3/CETME always based (assuming made right PTR does good work)

Also lot of options for single shot, or bolt. So the round has a lot of offerings too. While I am a collector and into mil surp, SCARs are pretty fucking nice weapon systems, esp if you want to do tactical shit I'd like a SCAR over an AR10/180.

If you're looking into high speed stuff, there's a few guys here who can help.

I didn't get much in my last review, but I'm still thinking I need to finish my AUG build but that's more time than cost at this point. I'm lazy and currently sipping Jefferson (ocean) and pressing some 7.62x25 vs trying to work on some retard euro space gun that's probably smarter than me.

You mentioned PTR and after that, the G3 clone lived rent free in my head. I bought a PTR 109, couldn't be happier, got it for under MSRP too.
Seems like a tank, can't wait to get it to the range.

 

[MrB]

Anyone have any experience/tips for running pyrodex in cap and ball revolvers? I'm looking to pick up a smokepole in 44 in the near future (my brain says a stainless Remington NMA, my heart says Colt SAA, my balls say a Colt Walker) and dealing with BP is a pain in the arse over here whereas BP substitutes are more plentiful and less regulated.

Pyrodex fouling residue is much more hygroscopic than black powder residue is and corrodes metal a lot faster, so make sure you clean it off the second you get home. I'm not big on substitutes myself but I believe that pyrodex residue is still water soluble with just dishsoap and hot water. It's just a lot harder to clean off. Anticipate needing to brush and scrub it as opposed to just rinsing it like with regular black powder.

dealing with BP is a pain in the arse over here

I'm going to assume you're not american so this advice may not apply to you, but another unrelated note, percussion caps are basically unobtanium right now online. If you have trouble finding them online or locally, they sell kits to make your own percussion caps out of aluminum cans on 22lrreloader using a metal die. It comes with the ingredients for primer compound too (H48 priming compound, which was the primer formula back when the US Army was using the Krag. Very corrosive, Potassium Chlorate, Antimony Sulfide, Sulfur, and powdered glass/shellac) and it comes out to about 1 cent per primer. It's also time-consuming but if you're a lazy bastard like me then making caps while you watch movies is a good way to knock out a few for cheap.

 

[Another Sperg on the Net]

Have some reloading porn of me annealing some 30-06 brass last week.

 

[Club Sandwich]

Well hmm, I guess I will blow out my eardrums either way with a thread protector or linear compensater or regular muzzle brake in an indoor environment.

specifically for indoor shooting without a suppressor, a linear compensator will be your best best to protect your hearing and eyesight when indoors. any linear compensator will almost certainly be better than any other muzzle device that isn't a sound moderator or suppressor as the goal of a linear compensator is to direct blast, noise, and flash forward and away from the shooter.

i've had good luck with the KX3, but i'm old and lazy and use what works. when i was kicking doors, i either had a suppressor or a normal A2 birdcage and a birdcage indoors sucks for sound without hearing protection because blast is diverted upwards slightly, same for the DTK brake on an AK. bare muzzles are just short of being worse than an actual divergent brake.

ported linear compensators that have smaller ports will be more effective than the older "can" style compensator. while it's not likely to result in permanent hearing loss, it will damage your hearing very rapidly and the overpressure can burst blood vessels, not to mention the pain and surprise involved in firing inside a hallway. just have some ear pro you can grab, and have a light on the rifle for PID, and if you have a rifle with a linear compensator, you're better off than most.

edit: i want to also emphasize that the noise reduction when indoors (or even outdoors) when using a sound moderator or linear compensator is very minor, but it is measurable. walls will reflect that sound and pressure wave in all kinds of ways, including back at the shooter, however every little bit can help. by shifting the expansion of hot gasses forward slightly, and forcing some gases through a small chamber or gas ports, you also slightly cool and redirect gases, in theory helping to reduce the overall experience when compared to a bare muzzle. pistol caliber weapons or weapons that don't produce much explosive gas expansion outside the muzzle (when compared to a rifle) will see limited utility from a compensator.

 

[MrJokerRager]

specifically for indoor shooting without a suppressor, a linear compensator will be your best best to protect your hearing and eyesight when indoors. any linear compensator will almost certainly be better than any other muzzle device that isn't a sound moderator or suppressor as the goal of a linear compensator is to direct blast, noise, and flash forward and away from the shooter.

i've had good luck with the KX3, but i'm old and lazy and use what works. when i was kicking doors, i either had a suppressor or a normal A2 birdcage and a birdcage indoors sucks for sound without hearing protection because blast is diverted upwards slightly, same for the DTK brake on an AK. bare muzzles are just short of being worse than an actual divergent brake.

ported linear compensators that have smaller ports will be more effective than the older "can" style compensator. while it's not likely to result in permanent hearing loss, it will damage your hearing very rapidly and the overpressure can burst blood vessels, not to mention the pain and surprise involved in firing inside a hallway. just have some ear pro you can grab, and have a light on the rifle for PID, and if you have a rifle with a linear compensator, you're better off than most.

Been looking at linear comps and there is the Troy Claymore and the Athena something something that has come up.

 

[Club Sandwich]

Been looking at linear comps and there is the Troy Claymore and the Athena something something that has come up.

really, if you're buying a linear compensator, ask yourself if you aren't better served by good ear pro and a phantom-style flash hider to reduce flash. 5db at the ear reduction in perceived noise isn't exactly huge when you're in the 120+ db range of a rifle shot, not even counting the reflective nature of the average wall, ceiling, and floor.

 

[MrJokerRager]

really, if you're buying a linear compensator, as yourself if you aren't better served by good ear pro and a phantom-style flash hider to reduce flash. 5db at the ear reduction in perceived noise isn't exactly huge when you're in the 120+ db of a rifle shot.

You do have a point, as its loud either way.

I wonder in the old days, or even police even now deal with shooting firearms without visible hearing protection.

I do have those walker razor earphones, pretty good stuff.

 

[Club Sandwich]

I wonder in the old days, or even police even now deal with shooting firearms without visible hearing protection.

old school patrol officers used normal ear plugs, or sonex "mushroom" style ear plug in one ear and a carried the other in the pocket (at least since the 70's). the sonex style had a narrow canal through the middle so you could still hear speech sort of, but overpressure couldn't easily get through. you also just trained to deal with a couple shots or so without any hearing protection at all if the situation warrants it. prior to then, you just dealt with it since a .38 wasn't exactly loud enough to instantly cause pain when fired. when i attended POST there were some courses that didn't have any hearing protection at all to simulate being caught unprepared and to avoid flinching or whatever. these days in-ear sonex style plugs are pretty common. they don't help much against rifles, but there are modern designs like sonic defenders that do well and are easy to put into place.

for something at the bedside, probably just a slim passive set you can grab without much trouble would work, as would just some cheap foam ones - the goal is speed and ease of use afterall.

 

[MrJokerRager]

old school patrol officers used normal ear plugs, or sonex "mushroom" style ear plug in one ear and a carried the other in the pocket (at least since the 70's). the sonex style had a narrow canal through the middle so you could still hear speech sort of, but overpressure couldn't easily get through. you also just trained to deal with a couple shots or so without any hearing protection at all if the situation warrants it. prior to then, you just dealt with it since a .38 wasn't exactly loud enough to instantly cause pain when fired. when i attended POST there were some courses that didn't have any hearing protection at all to simulate being caught unprepared and to avoid flinching or whatever. these days in-ear sonex style plugs are pretty common. they don't help much against rifles, but there are modern designs like sonic defenders that do well and are easy to put into place.

for something at the bedside, probably just a slim passive set you can grab without much trouble would work, as would just some cheap foam ones - the goal is speed and ease of use afterall.

Yep, I will research and buy that kind of product.

Just looking ino it now and apparently 3M, is getting hit with lawsuits over providing something of that sort of a defective product to some GWOT vets.

 

[Club Sandwich]

3M, is getting hit with lawsuits over providing something of that sort of a defective product

yeah, i wore them alongside some other stuff like Sonex and some silicon orange colored ones from MCA (clear hard plastic round case with screw top and short ball chain), the olive drab rectangular slide top case with the blue silicon ear plugs, and the newer "combat arms earplugs".

at the time the CAE was being issued at first, it wasn't 3M, it was Aero Technologies or something like that that made them: a double-ended ear plug that had an olive and yellow design. the "stem" was difficult to work with and one end had zero noise reduction since it only protected against certain frequencies and the other was a decent 20 db or something. 3M bought the company that made them at some point and assumed legal liability for the issue. the gen 2 or later work very well, the problem was with the gen 1 version.

 

[Champion The Wonder Horse]

Pyrodex fouling residue is much more hygroscopic than black powder residue is and corrodes metal a lot faster, so make sure you clean it off the second you get home. I'm not big on substitutes myself but I believe that pyrodex residue is still water soluble with just dishsoap and hot water. It's just a lot harder to clean off. Anticipate needing to brush and scrub it as opposed to just rinsing it like with regular black powder.

I'm going to assume you're not american so this advice may not apply to you, but another unrelated note, percussion caps are basically unobtanium right now online. If you have trouble finding them online or locally, they sell kits to make your own percussion caps out of aluminum cans on 22lrreloader using a metal die. It comes with the ingredients for primer compound too (H48 priming compound, which was the primer formula back when the US Army was using the Krag. Very corrosive, Potassium Chlorate, Antimony Sulfide, Sulfur, and powdered glass/shellac) and it comes out to about 1 cent per primer. It's also time-consuming but if you're a lazy bastard like me then making caps while you watch movies is a good way to knock out a few for cheap.

Thanks for the info! Here in the UK we haven't really seen any shortages of ammo or reloading components. Prices are up about 20% over the last two years but they are on just about everything.

The corrosion problem is what has me thinking a stainless gun is the smart choice, for some retarded reason the morons who run the country have decided you need an additional loicense for BP, but not for BP substitutes (or for that matter for nitro powders).

 

[UVB-76]

Don't really care much for ARs but that pisses me off just a little. But I suppose it's just something for the DIY guys to figure out a solution to now.

Regarding uppers, the solution is out there but there hasn't been a need for it so it's not been attempted to my knowledge. From this point onwards a lot of solutions will be just a matter of combining existing developments. Just like Ivan combined derwood's AP-9, Jeff Rodriguez's ECM barrel and Luty's shaft collars into the FGC-9.

Spoiler: tube uppers and 3d printed router jigs

Then with a 3d printed mold you could "cast" around the tube to get the external features and cover any gaps between upper and lower. Since the aluminum or steel tube takes most of the load this can probably be done with fiberglass rather than CF to lower the cost.

 

[C.U.N.T.]

Need more pics!
Loving my CZ SP01 Shadow Aussiemate.
It warms my heart to have the gold grips with the map of Australia and the Southern Cross (the other upgrades like barrel, hammer are nice too).
I changed grips and springs and it just shoots so noice.
Straya!

 

[WhoBusTank69]

for some retarded reason the morons who run the country have decided you need an additional loicense for BP, but not for BP substitutes (or for that matter for nitro powders)

In all fairness to their distinction, black powder is an explosive and your Irish neighbors caused lots of Troubles with it in the past.

 

[Duke Nukem]

Regarding uppers, the solution is out there but there hasn't been a need for it so it's not been attempted to my knowledge. From this point onwards a lot of solutions will be just a matter of combining existing developments. Just like Ivan combined derwood's AP-9, Jeff Rodriguez's ECM barrel and Luty's shaft collars into the FGC-9.

Spoiler: tube uppers and 3d printed router jigs

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Then with a 3d printed mold you could "cast" around the tube to get the external features and cover any gaps between upper and lower. Since the aluminum or steel tube takes most of the load this can probably be done with fiberglass rather than CF to lower the cost.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=25PmqM24HEk

Where did you find this? That tube idea is amazing and would look right at home with an apocalypse looking build.

 

[WhoBusTank69]

plumbing pipe AR build

When this gay earth requires you to do the inconceivable, great things happen.

 

[UVB-76]

Where did you find this? That tube idea is amazing and would look right at home with an apocalypse looking build.

The aluminum tube one with the 3d printed router jig is the Chonk-15, from Manray3726 on r/gunnitrust.

Spoiler: ejection port on "left" side because video is mirrored

The steel one that was milled on an actual mill might have been posted on a website that has since went down, because I reverse image searched one of the pictures I had on my drive and the only remnant seems to be a tumblr post that reuploaded the images. Looking for "tube AR" or "apocalypse AR" builds didn't yield any results apart from the famous ones that sometimes get posted on blogs like TFB.

 

[Duke Nukem]

The aluminum tube one with the 3d printed router jig is the Chonk-15, from Manray3726 on r/gunnitrust.

Spoiler: ejection port on "left" side because video is mirrored

Chonk-15 functions test. [514087951].mp4

The steel one that was milled on an actual mill might have been posted on a website that has since went down, because I reverse image searched one of the pictures I had on my drive and the only remnant seems to be a tumblr post that reuploaded the images. Looking for "tube AR" or "apocalypse AR" builds didn't yield any results apart from the famous ones that sometimes get posted on blogs like TFB.

I'm not gonna lie, I do like the steel tube upper idea. Might want to fill in that gap between the upper and lower, but I think a 3D printed upper shell with steel inserts would be a novel idea, although I prefer the steel junkyard look myself.

 

[UVB-76]

I'm not gonna lie, I do like the steel tube upper idea. Might want to fill in that gap between the upper and lower, but I think a 3D printed upper shell with steel inserts would be a novel idea, although I prefer the steel junkyard look myself.

I might as well post the full set of pictures, since afaik it's only hosted on tumblr.

Spoiler

 

[Duke Nukem]

I might as well post the full set of pictures, since afaik it's only hosted on tumblr.

Spoiler

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Do you have the schematics for the upper? I could probably figure it out but any information is helpful.