Mega Rad Gun Thread

[CarlosDanger]

Threaded barrel? A .300 BLK rifle without a threaded barrel is like a burger without cheese.

Yeah it has a threaded barrel.

 

[Shidoen]

Any advice on how i can get my hands on a G3?

 

[Club Sandwich]

Any advice on how i can get my hands on a G3?

transferable receiver, or join a military or agency that still uses them. if you only care about appearance, you can also get a sear with an appropriate sear host built to your taste. with enough money you can more or less do or have done whatever you want. there's also the route of making your own but is that really an authentic "G3"? no, but if you don't care, then go the business route and get your 07 and SOT and agency letter and so forth to import one or something.

i should also mention the rare 1st year G3 imports, which were semi-auto G3's via Golden State Arms. there's less than 200 floating around and are fully functional G3's with a semi-auto trigger pack installed. they predate the GCA slightly and so are grandfathered as normal title 1 weapons in their original, unmodified condition. then you get into import configured and licensed manufactured "G3"'s like the Greek-made Hellenic Arms G3 (imported by Springfield Armory as the SAR3 and SAR8 ), the HK41 and HK91 and variations, how close you feel the CETME model 58 is to a G3, your opinion on parts kits on a receiver flat from POF or FMP, domestic rifle made on imported tooling (JLD/PTR), a bespoke rifle from a builder (AZ response systems, me, et c).

then there's more recent imports from MKE, Century, and so on. most "G3"'s floating around in the US that are close enough in look and feel for most people are either a semi-auto licensed import, a direct import from H&K, or a domestic clone of some kind.

 

[CarlosDanger]

The PTR 91 can be quite nice but some have some durability issues. The PTR GI 100 I have heard pretty good things about as well.

 

[HumptiDouji]

Any advice on how i can get my hands on a G3?

If you mean a select-fire one, become a Type 07 SOT or spend assloads of money on a transferable Flemming Sear.
If you intend to break the law, don't fucking tell anyone.

The PTR 91 can be quite nice but some have some durability issues. The PTR GI 100 I have heard pretty good things about as well.

What kind of durability issues? The only issue I can think of myself regarding the PTR91 was that one time they changed how they cut the chamber flutes and it caused problems, which I'm pretty sure they recalled and refunded/replaced after recognizing as bad.

 

[Back me up!]

So with the recent Appeals Court over turning (certain) bans on Bump Stocks are peopling selling them again?

 

[WelperHelper99]

So with the recent Appeals Court over turning (certain) bans on Bump Stocks are peopling selling them again?

I doubt it'll be soon or at least until the S.C. gives its take.

transferable receiver, or join a military or agency that still uses them. if you only care about appearance, you can also get a sear with an appropriate sear host built to your taste. with enough money you can more or less do or have done whatever you want. there's also the route of making your own but is that really an authentic "G3"? no, but if you don't care, then go the business route and get your 07 and SOT and agency letter and so forth to import one or something.

i should also mention the rare 1st year G3 imports, which were semi-auto G3's via Golden State Arms. there's less than 200 floating around and are fully functional G3's with a semi-auto trigger pack installed. they predate the GCA slightly and so are grandfathered as normal title 1 weapons in their original, unmodified condition. then you get into import configured and licensed manufactured "G3"'s like the Greek-made Hellenic Arms G3 (imported by Springfield Armory as the SAR3 and SAR8 ), the HK41 and HK91 and variations, how close you feel the CETME model 58 is to a G3, your opinion on parts kits on a receiver flat from POF or FMP, domestic rifle made on imported tooling (JLD/PTR), a bespoke rifle from a builder (AZ response systems, me, et c).

then there's more recent imports from MKE, Century, and so on. most "G3"'s floating around in the US that are close enough in look and feel for most people are either a semi-auto licensed import, a direct import from H&K, or a domestic clone of some kind.

I've seen G3's floating around at my local gun show sometimes as low as 800, though I don't exactly know how authentic it is or if it's just a clone. Personally on my end I just want a G3 that works like one, and I could convert into the Swedish AK4C like as pictured

 

[Wahgonga]

I picked up a new rifle over the holidays, a German Weihrauch HW98 air rifle. It's a single shot heavy barreled .22 spring piston gun. Clocked JSB 14gr domed pellets at just over 900fps atm. Getting consistent 1/4" 5 shot groups at 50yds off the sandbag. Works for me.

Trigger is set at 2.5lbs from the factory, but can be adjusted down to 10oz. Went with a UTG Bug Buster 3x9 AO with target turrets and mil-dot reticle for optics. It's a great airgun/rimfire scope. The rifle with optics weighs 9.5lbs. This is my first Weihrauch gun and I'm really impressed with the fit, finish, and overall quality. Love the stippling and adjustable cheekpiece and buttplate. Blueing and stock finish are perfect. Kinda pricey, but definitely worth the money-

 

[HumptiDouji]

So with the recent Appeals Court over turning (certain) bans on Bump Stocks are peopling selling them again?

I'm waiting for someone to try to make the Bump Brace, or outright just a sliding Bump Grip. Beyond that, I'm looking forward to more people experimenting with "Bump SAWs", because I legit thought they were cool and had promise.

I get a couple of ideas in my head about how one can best approach a Bump SAW. The cheapest way is plain a heavy profile barrel and free-float fore-end on an AR15 for putting a bipod or grippod onto, which will work enough for recreation, but it's not gonna be the best or long lasting.
For a more dedicated setup, I can picture a replacement upper which uses a long-stroke piston together with a (possibly) monolithic front-end which doesn't just free-float the thing for your bipod, but which has an open side to facilitate a quick-detach barrel (heavy profile and with fluting or something else to increase outside surface area while also shaving some weight).

For magazines, one option is to use the existing well on the lower for regular 30rd mags and some of the drums. The SAW150 drum is supposed to be very reliable and robust, unlike the C-Mag, but it's also expensive and heavy, and I'm unsure of if they are still being made. The weight of a loaded SAW mag would probably be enough that it could cause issues with reliability of bumping and thus require a recoil booster.
The other approach which strikes me in the moment is to have a magwell on the left side of the upper receiver, that way you can have a pair of clamped PMAG40s inserted, they are pretty reliable from my experience, and keeping them on the side would keep them from getting in the way of movement and make it easier to reload with them. It would also give you an aesthetic a bit like a Johnson Automatic Rifle or the MG13, just in an intermediate size.

For people with transferable lowers and SOTs, they could skip straight to real full-auto for the better results, but with bump stocks unbanned, something like this would be an 'economical' way of having a light support weapon. Even if the affair might end up being a $2000+ product, it's still going to be miles cheaper and easier than a real select-fire one, and if the registry is ever reopened one day (or the NFA voided ), converting these into proper select-fire guns is simple and easy.

 

[CarlosDanger]

If you mean a select-fire one, become a Type 07 SOT or spend assloads of money on a transferable Flemming Sear.
If you intend to break the law, don't fucking tell anyone.


What kind of durability issues? The only issue I can think of myself regarding the PTR91 was that one time they changed how they cut the chamber flutes and it caused problems, which I'm pretty sure they recalled and refunded/replaced after recognizing as bad.

A lot of people had issues with the bolt carrier group, springs not being strong enough, some people had their bolt bounce out of battery because the rollers were too small and the bolt gap wasn't correct. Everything I heard though is that PTR is good at fixing the issues and getting you a fixed up gun in a timely fashion.

 

[(‿ˠ‿) ԅ(≖‿≖ԅ)]

I've got a 350 Legend AR rifle I use for as a ranch rifle. I love it cause its got about as much recoil as 300 BLK with a whole lot more energy. I know that I can confidently use it on anything that comes round the farm in my area. I also enjoy being able to slap a 9mm suppressor on it. One thing to note is that it has the same head dimensions as 223 REM and if you have an AR-15 you only need a new barrel. I would recommend getting at least a new upper so you can easily switch from one to the other.

Aside from the fact that brass and good .355 diameter projectiles suited for rifle use were few and far between, I don't get the hate that seem to be heaped upon .350 Legend. It's def a better subsonic round than Blackout, especially in bolt actions, and the more it catches on the more likely it is that the limited selection of reloading components will increase

 

[Club Sandwich]

I've seen G3's floating around at my local gun show sometimes as low as 800

let's get the terminology correct: a "G3" is an H&K select-fire military rifle that, if transferable in the US, is around $18,000 - $25,000 in functional condition. there are not too many in the US to begin with, and there is some paperwork involved in transferring one due to various laws - some local areas may prohibit it entirely or have some other requirements. if you are outside the US, then i can't really offer too much advice. i know where to source gear in several countries, but in a more "official" capacity than one for sporting purposes.

it sounds like you're interested in making a "clone" rifle - a modern commercial sporting rifle that looks like and mostly functions like a G3 so you can do parts-swapping for an "AK4C" look-a-like. if that's your goal, it would be a semiautomatic air-cooled, roller-delayed, magazine-fed 7.62x51mm rifle like any other. if i were building this look-a-like rifle, my steps would be:

1. acquire an appropriate HK91 title 1 rifle (there are many, the HK91 being ideal, but also the PTR91 (specifically the current "101" model and swap some furniture is pretty close), Springfield SAR8 (aka EBO SAR8 , or FMP G3S)). unless you know what you are getting into i would suggest avoiding kit rifles of unknown build quality or the CETME based rifles since those are inappropriate for your desired outcome. this will be referred to as the "base rifle".

2. acquire the R-410 stock assembly, R-401 forend, a 245mm rail section to be welded to the top of the receiver (or pick a base rifle with such a rail already installed), or the R-402 top rail which is intended for the AK4D improvement project, but works just as well for the AK4C (which typically had the same AK4B top rail welded in place). lastly the AK4 past the first rifles use an improved heavy recoil buffer. an AK4 will typically also (bot not always) have the improved, widened magazine release lever, but often will not have the boot on the cocking lever.

3. acquire or modify furniture as needed. the AK4 has a unique quick-change grip frame with "S, P, A" markings, a modified plastic grip with less severe thumbrest, and an extended selector lever but not all AK4 rifles would have all of these as they were rolled out over time and you will see a mix of parts in the field. the most common would be the grip frame since that was modified into the quick-change variation in the late 1970's. likewise it's up to you if you want to make a windage table or get the Aimpoint CS optic, et c.

4. assemble the rifle as appropriate with optional stamping and refinishing as needed. the finish is typical epoxy paint over zinc phosphate parkerizing.

 

[HumptiDouji]

Aside from the fact that brass and good .355 diameter projectiles suited for rifle use were few and far between, I don't get the hate that seem to be heaped upon .350 Legend. It's def a better subsonic round than Blackout, especially in bolt actions, and the more it catches on the more likely it is that the limited selection of reloading components will increase

Vague impression I get is that some people a little too emotionally invested in cartridges like .35 Winchester (which is good btw) feel threatened by another .35 caliber rifle cartridge, even though it's different enough cartridge that I don't see one replacing the other. I like it for being a usable option for certain states, but also because it's pretty similar to .30-40 US Krag

 

[Club Sandwich]

.35 Whelen will never die.

 

[Smoke Manmuscle]

Aside from the fact that brass and good .355 diameter projectiles suited for rifle use were few and far between, I don't get the hate that seem to be heaped upon .350 Legend. It's def a better subsonic round than Blackout, especially in bolt actions, and the more it catches on the more likely it is that the limited selection of reloading components will increase

One of the issues was that the pandemic panic buying hit right as the manufacturers tooled up to make it. If everyone is buying everything you offer there is no reason not to make loaded rounds as they bring the most profit. I suspect we will see more components come back on the shelf as the economy as a whole slows down.

.35 Whelen will never die.

Does anyone even make factory ammo for that?

 

[Napoleon Bonerfart]

Guns are for wimpy faggots who can’t rip someone’s spine out, like a real man.

 

[Vecr]

Guns are for wimpy faggots who can’t rip someone’s spine out, like a real man.

Sounds like a good way to get shot in the back by the guy's buddy while you struggle on the ground.

 

[习近平新时代中国特色社会主义思想]

Here is show 64式手枪 pistol. A beautiful pride of hardworking old time Chinese workers who make the firearms of that generation. A good classic to protect the people.

 

[Napoleon Bonerfart]

Sounds like a good way to get shot in the back by the guy's buddy while you struggle on the ground.

Not if you roundhouse kick the bullet.

ITT: Dumb niggers claim to be gun experts but can’t even roundhouse kick a bullet.

 

[HumptiDouji]

Guns are for wimpy faggots who can’t rip someone’s spine out, like a real man.

Oh shit, Scorpion, I loved you in Mortal Kombat!