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If it's a Mossberg, the cheese-grater heatshield is mandatory; this one is squared away.

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If it's a Mossberg, the cheese-grater heatshield is mandatory; this one is squared away.

It's 7.62x39 but American as apple pie and uses the same bolt as 5.56. If it's a fad it's been going for quite some time and is far more useful than its detractors say, primarily suppressed. But supersonic is still pretty good.Is the .300 Blackout round actually something to look into or is it just a hot new meme right now?
Good point about the action bars, forgot about that part, was a bit of a pain in the ass. Not all 500s have it either, I had a really basic Mossberg 500 that came with pinned action bars, Maverick style. Ended up having to get a separate action slide tube assembly to get a new forend on it.If there's intent to change foregrip, a 500 may be better, as the action bars in the Mav are pinned to the forend and you need to buy replacement bars (and I think forend tube) to change the forend. Never actually did the math to see what comes out more though.
If going pistol grip, Mav might be better for the safety.
Also note that the Mav receiver is not tapped for mounting a rail/optic like the 500. (I'm considering one of these in that regard: https://www.adorama.com/susm4500.html )
My Mav:
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7-5/8" is generally pre-1990 and several of the hunting models (835, etc) slide action tube length for magnum shells (3" and longer). some aftermarket forearms may require modification (magpul for example). 6-1/2" is the length for the standard model 500A. you measure from top of the threads to the bottom of the collar that holds the action bars. this measurement is critical to fit when ordering forearms or stock sets that include a forearm. you can get an adapter nut (Hogue PN 05020) for the shorter tube to allow use of the longer forearms. the third style since around 2006 for 500's, 535 and 835 will use a one-piece design with the forearm pinned directly to the action bars, without a tube entirely. that assembly must be entirely replaced if you want to use some aftermarket forearms. the 590 and 590A1 use the 7-5/8" slide action tube, although iirc the thickness or TPI of the 590 might be unique for the collar.7-3/4" and 6-3/4", need to confirm what size the forend requires. Don't recall which size is standard on the newer models, I think the shorter one is.
What I'm really asking is it worth switching a upper for if I don't think I'm ready to drop 1k on a silencer for my AR-15.It's 7.62x39 but American as apple pie and uses the same bolt as 5.56. If it's a fad it's been going for quite some time and is far more useful than its detractors say, primarily suppressed. But supersonic is still pretty good.
In that case, I wouldn't if I were you. It's made with suppressors in mind. Save your money.What I'm really asking is it worth switching a upper for if I don't think I'm ready to drop 1k on a silencer for my AR-15.
See that's a reason to buy the Maverick if I go the shotgun route, customization. That is a sexy doorknocker if I've ever seen one, and has undoubtedly doubled the value, much like what I did with my 300 win mag. A pro with the Maverick is that I can buy it in my own town, and keep that money in the town.If there's intent to change foregrip, a 500 may be better, as the action bars in the Mav are pinned to the forend and you need to buy replacement bars (and I think forend tube) to change the forend. Never actually did the math to see what comes out more though.
If going pistol grip, Mav might be better for the safety.
Also note that the Mav receiver is not tapped for mounting a rail/optic like the 500. (I'm considering one of these in that regard: https://www.adorama.com/susm4500.html )
My Mav:
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If the gun were pristine/unused (it's got a few scratches), the accessories would double the value, though that's not difficult with a $200 Mav. The Breechergrip alone was about $100, OEM heatshield is $50., and has undoubtedly doubled the value,
How's the grip? Does the recoil mitigation feature actually work?If the gun were pristine/unused (it's got a few scratches), the accessories would double the value, though that's not difficult with a $200 Mav. The Breechergrip alone was about $100, OEM heatshield is $50.
Oh yeah. Between the spring and the super-squish buttpad, it's way more comfortable than feeling like someone whacked the muzzle with a four-by-four.How's the grip? Does the recoil mitigation feature actually work?
Nice. I'm tempted to pick up something like that myself, was deciding between the Mesa Tactical one and the same Blackhawk one.Oh yeah. Between the spring and the super-squish buttpad, it's way more comfortable than feeling like someone whacked the muzzle with a four-by-four.
I dont know if the Mesa is better, but I feel like it cant be 3x better ($100 vs $300).Nice. I'm tempted to pick up something like that myself, was deciding between the Mesa Tactical one and the same Blackhawk one.
Fun fact: It's possible to rig up an adapter to allow the use of some Mossberg stocks to an older BAR Browning rifle. Not sure about pistol grip stocks, but can definitely use the Magpul SGA stock, the fit is almost perfect. Mine's rocking the SGA stock and a modified polymer forend from a newer BAR. It gets a horrified reaction from the fudds every time they see it, it's pretty amusing.
I am very curious to hear them.In fairness, there are good arguments for not putting a forward assist on a gun issued to infantry if you don't want it constantly abused. And there are good arguments for not using a forward assist,
It's an attractive nuisance to avoid cleaning and proper understanding of the causes and ways to clear malfunctions, even in training.I am very curious to hear them.
Mostly so they could get the gun out quicker if my research is correct.Why did cowboys wear their gunbelts slung so low on one side? Does it make it easier to use on horseback or is it so your gun isn't as close to your junk when it randomly discharges?
never in my entire military career or in any capacity as a private instructor or competitor going back decades have i ever encountered anyone, any text, where the M16/AR-15 forward assist was given as a reason to avoid PMCS or stoppage drills. i have instructional text and films going back to the 60's that stipulate that the forward assist is a useful tool, but not a replacement for PMCS or remedial action. the forward assist can make a stoppage worse though, which was one reason why SPORTS stopped being used after the 1990's since part of it could make a malfunction worse by forcibly seating a cartridge that wouldn't normally seat into the chamber.It's an attractive nuisance to avoid cleaning and proper understanding of the causes and ways to clear malfunctions, even in training.
they didn't, generally speaking. low slung holsters were a buscadero thing in the Arizonas and Californias partially as fashion and partially if you had long arms or were wearing pants that lacked belt loops or used a rifle and had to have space on the belt for rifle ammunition that may have been different from the pistol (or even the same ammo and you just had more of it. the average "cowboy" wore it at the hip looped over the top of the belt or cavalry style at an angle, a bit more rare is the cross draw.Why did cowboys wear their gunbelts slung so low on one side?
I mean, there you are. When the final step of a drill is mechanistically using the forward assist to smash the bolt closed regardless of the condition of the rifle, that could be a problem.the forward assist can make a stoppage worse though, which was one reason why SPORTS stopped being used after the 1990's since part of it could make a malfunction worse by forcibly seating a cartridge that wouldn't normally seat into the chamber.