Mega Rad Gun Thread

[AGPinochet]

How tf would that work? Lol

Eh offset it on a mount, for the optics/rails

Reminds me of this bullshit

Also Turkoids are making 5.7s now. I am starting to get really conspiratorial on all this new hype around 5.7.

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

Makes you wonder just how sold they are on the NGSW.


These must have been the center of at least a few incidents in their day.


Interesting.


Sweet Jesus is that fucking ugly. I'm just imagining dirt and dust slowly gathering in all those cuts with use over time, or the particularly uncomfortable carry handle. Probably adds a lot to the price.

NGSW and the 6.8x51mm were pet projects of Mike Milley as he and a few other generals bought some utter bullshit sold by an ex USMC officer who worked for H&K about 5.56mm not killing people and being unable to defeat body armor.....

Basically this H&K shill was trying to get the 416 sold and after trashing the M4A1 (excellent rifle btw) he then went in to try and trash 5.56mm because H&K wanted to sell the 417 in 7.62mm.

However he retired but some moron generals bought all of his bullshit PowerPoint presentations and actually thought the US Army would be going up against Russian and Jihadi fighters all rocking NIJ Level 4 armor 24/7 and that those guys would be putting down accurate fire with DMRs and GPMGs in 7.62x54R non-stop.

Yeah.....

Once Milley is out the NGSW will slowly die. Well get a thousands or maybe tens of thousands of M5s and the new machine gun, certain units will use them but 99% of the US military will be using M4A1s, SAWs, and M240s for a few more decades.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

..... some moron generals bought all of his bullshit PowerPoint presentations and actually thought the US Army would be going up against Russian and Jihadi fighters all rocking NIJ Level 4 armor 24/7 and that those guys would be putting down accurate fire with DMRs and GPMGs in 7.62x54R non-stop.

Not so much the hajis, more so the Chinese, and militias equipped by China/Alibaba or Russia/Iran.

Although the fact that we've been handing militias & jihadis shitloads of armor & arms gratis/off the books for decades (and finally by just leaving it behind), probably didn't escape notice.

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

This is just a thought -

Does anyone know of refillable 12g CO2 cartridges? I don't have a FAC or SGC at the moment (no need but had one) so I am limited to Airguns at the moment and the cost of them has shot up in the last 12 months.

Just looked up the Camp Carbine. It's been discontinued for a while, I'd be going to gunbroker, but it does use 1911 mags so that's a plus for the ones I already have, and I could use those stupid long 15 rounders lol. Just look at it though, all that wood, absolutely sexy.

If your after a .45 acp carbine there was someone selling Delise style Carbines made in the UK from some old training MK5 Enfileds a lot where exported to the USA with a pseudo shroud and plane barrel, this was about 10 years ago but they where relatively cheep like £200 for the suppressed version in the UK (yes we get a suppressor in the UK with our licence). They took standard 1911 mags and worked really well from what I was told.

 

[Club Sandwich]

refillable 12g CO2 cartridges

Umarex/SHS/MCS all make them but they are not meant to be used with an air compressor (or HPA, et c). you are meant to refill them from a standard 88g tank or something like that. you risk bursting the 12g cartridge otherwise.

go to 9mm range ammo

either Winchester white box or Remington green/white box (with UMC Green/Yellow as an alternative). i've had plenty of success with S&B, Aguila, CBC, Maxxtech, Barnual, Fiocchi, CCI, Federal, et c. for target ammunition it's more about mass and velocity and your pistol's preference than it is about branding. i've noticed that S&B and Fiocchi tend to be fairly clean burning. if you stay above 1150 f/s and it's from a reputable brand, you're probably fine with almost anything.

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

Umarex/SHS/MCS all make them but they are not meant to be used with an air compressor (or HPA, et c). you are meant to refill them from a standard 88g tank or something like that. you risk bursting the 12g cartridge otherwise.

Have you got any you personally recommend? or are they prety much of a muchness?

 

[Club Sandwich]

Have you got any you personally recommend? or are they prety much of a muchness?

i've used the MCS brand with good success for pest control, refilling using various 88g canisters when needed. honestly, bulk buying 12g cartridges are more economical in the US, so other than saying they work well at 850 psi (or so, which is the typical CO2 pressure in average temperatures) it's tough to really say one way or the other. higher than 1000 psi will tend jam the valve without a regulator or something. don't forget to oil seals as well, either. with MCS you will need their adapter and their cartridges.

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

i've used the MCS brand with good success for pest control, refilling using various 88g canisters when needed. honestly, bulk buying 12g cartridges are more economical in the US, so other than saying they work well at 850 psi (or so, which is the typical CO2 pressure in average temperatures) it's tough to really say one way or the other. higher than 1000 psi will tend jam the valve without a regulator or something. don't forget to oil seals as well, either. with MCS you will need their adapter and their cartridges.

Chears refilling them isn't my concern I can do that I've got a really really good compressor I can do prety much any pressure from 0 bar to if this blows kiss your arse goodbye, and I can cut any thread I need all I need is a good reliable bunch I can can buy 10 - 20 of and just cycle them as needed.

 

[Particle Bored]

What's your guys go to 9mm range ammo, in terms of reliability, velocity, and price? I used to almost exclusively shoot Barnaul and LVE manufacture because it was loaded hot, was cleaner than many brass cased offerings, and was cheap, but I'm getting low after the Russian import bans and need a new range ammo. Most of what I've seen shows Sellier and Bellot to have the best balance of velocity, price, and reliability, but I haven't actually found any recent chrono tests of their range ammo so I am still a little hesitant.

Any input?

Whatever's cheapest and in stock. Aka Blazer. 124gr is apparently ~1100fps. (Sig 124gr HP for HD mags, Winchester white in the SHTF box since I got a bunch on sale)

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

For today's ISAT (internet show & tell), I bring a post-war East German StG-44 derivative:

In the first years of the existence of the breakaway state, the armament of the GDR army was naturally based on the assets of the German Wehrmacht, but also on a considerable amount of weapons of Soviet origin. The unification of armaments with the Soviet Union was approached to such an extent that license-produced AKM and AKMS submachine guns, marked KM, were introduced as individual weapons. Available sources indicate that their production began in the GDR in 1959. A little-known fact however, it remains that the GDR also developed its own weapon design for the 7.62 x 39 mm cartridge (vz. 43). We know about its existence today primarily because in July 1959, representatives of the German military administration came with it and the weapon was comparatively tested in Czechoslovakia at the time with our submachine gun vz. 58.

The design of the German weapon was quite obviously based on the basis of the StG 44 submachine gun, and its breech mechanism was based on a locked breech with gas pressure taken from the piston. The lock was also hinged and the movement was controlled by the slide of the handle carrier, which the designers of the bolt placed parallel, rolled to the left side half way above the barrel. As with the StG 44, the length of the gas tube. The handle was firmly connected to the bolt carrier, it was not firmly connected to the breech block. The gas channel was a mechanism and did not move when fired, 310 mm away from the front of the barrel. Therefore, the electrical and functional stroke of the piston was 43 mm. mined the number of places through which dirt could enter the weapon mechanism. The shape of the stock of the weapon was very similar to the original, but unlike it, it was rigidly connected to the trigger. To disassemble the weapon, it was therefore necessary to slide out the connecting pin in the lower part of the buttstock, partially the stock slide it up and then lower it together with the trigger. This concept did not allow for a folding shoulder rest for the weapon in the future. The return spring of the bolt carrier was strung on the guide rod and secured in a pre- tensioned state similarly....
Just like our vz 58, the German submachine gun was conceived as the universial weapon of the individual and was to replace pistol cartridge submachine guns and self-loading rifies in the army in the future.

It's development was not chrome plated but it was considered that this technology would be used in serial production.
The magazine had a capacity of 20 cartridges, 10 less than our weapon. A surprising design element of the weapon from the GDR was the trigger mechanism, which allowed firing with single shots and 3 shot at the time.
.... they did not go beyond the prototype stage. However, it is proof that there was an attempt to design a unified weapon is the GDR

7.62 mm vz. 43 (7.62 x 39 mm)

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And an "updated" Ukrainian Maxim:

Something tells me that suppressor isn't typically left on, and wouldn't last long if was. Although even a shot-out one might still function as a flash-suppressor, which would come in handy at night.

 

[AGPinochet]

I bring rumors/leaks regarding upcoming Daniel Defense products from /arg/ (remember I am just posting what some guy with a DD employee badge says so if I am wrong call him a faggot and not me)

-DD is maybe making some kind of Bufferless Upper
-The Hudson remake is "in full production"
-The upcoming 6.8TVCM rifle from them (yes, that is a thing they are doing) is going to be a re-barreled Ambi AR-10
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[Mikoyan]

I bring rumors/leaks regarding upcoming Daniel Defense products from /arg/ (remember I am just posting what some guy with a DD employee badge says so if I am wrong call him a faggot and not me)

-DD is maybe making some kind of Bufferless Upper
-The Hudson remake is "in full production"
-The upcoming 6.8TVCM rifle from them (yes, that is a thing they are doing) is going to be a re-barreled Ambi AR-10
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I (and maybe only I) like the H9 repro news.

 

[DocAwe]

I bring rumors/leaks regarding upcoming Daniel Defense products from /arg/ (remember I am just posting what some guy with a DD employee badge says so if I am wrong call him a faggot and not me)

-DD is maybe making some kind of Bufferless Upper
-The Hudson remake is "in full production"
-The upcoming 6.8TVCM rifle from them (yes, that is a thing they are doing) is going to be a re-barreled Ambi AR-10
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As an owner of an OG H9 I'm hopeful for the DD version.

 

[Seafarer]

For today's ISAT (internet show & tell), I bring a post-war East German StG-44 derivative:
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And an "updated" Ukrainian Maxim:
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Something tells me that suppressor isn't typically left on, and wouldn't last long if was. Although even a shot-out one might still function as a flash-suppressor, which would come in handy at night.

There was recently a Fallout 4 mod that added in that first gun, it’s where I learned of it’s existence.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

There was recently a Fallout 4 mod that added in that first gun, it’s where I learned of it’s existence.

I haven't played in many years, but there was a Fallout 3 mod (20th Century/Modern Weapons iirc) that was like a copy-paste from Forgotten Weapons. It replaced all the futuristic stuff & adding something like 50 (mostly) accurately rendered weapons; like the FG-42, Inkunzi PAW, HK G11, Steyr AUG, Stechkin, M1941 Johnson, Winchester M97, PTRS-41, and several things I'd never heard of. Then I used FOMM & data from FW & Wikipedia to change rates-of-fire, range, accuracy, ammo counts, and approx. damage values to historic levels.

Some of the reload & firing sounds were fairly accurate, but most were like they were sampled through a gardenhose or generic arcade effects. So for things like the M1 Garand, I clipped range & disassembly videos to replace them.

I spent probably 30+ hours just tweaking that mod, and it was a hoot charging nests of mutants like it's a wasteland Saving Private Ryan, or taking out power-armor with AT-rifles.

 

[Seafarer]

I haven't played in many years, but there was a Fallout 3 mod (20th Century/Modern Weapons iirc) that was like a copy-paste from Forgotten Weapons. It replaced all the futuristic stuff & adding something like 50 (mostly) accurately rendered weapons; like the Inkunzi PAW, HK G3, Steyr AUG, Stechkin, M1941 Johnson, Winchester M97, PTRS-41, and several things I'd never heard of. Then I used FOMM & data from FW & Wikipedia to change rates-of-fire, range, accuracy, ammo counts, and approx. damage values to historic levels.

Some of the reload & firing sounds were fairly accurate, but most were like they were sampled through a gardenhose or generic arcade effects. So for things like the M1 Garand, I clipped range & disassembly videos to replace them.

I spent probably 30+ hours just tweaking that mod, and it was a hoot charging nests of mutants like it's a wasteland Saving Private Ryan, or taking out power-armor with AT-rifles.

On the topic of Fallout 4, they should have used this gun if they wanted a side-loading assault rifle (an interesting aesthetic might I add) instead of that clunky, overdesigned piece of shit they ended up using

 

[likeacrackado]

What's your guys go to 9mm range ammo, in terms of reliability, velocity, and price? I used to almost exclusively shoot Barnaul and LVE manufacture because it was loaded hot, was cleaner than many brass cased offerings, and was cheap, but I'm getting low after the Russian import bans and need a new range ammo. Most of what I've seen shows Sellier and Bellot to have the best balance of velocity, price, and reliability, but I haven't actually found any recent chrono tests of their range ammo so I am still a little hesitant.

Any input?

Bought a bunch of Belom 124 grain 9mm and have had good luck with it. Iirc their 7.62x39 performed well in Paul Harrels accuracy test so they were already my go-to for brass AK food.

The plastic packages they come in stack on top of eachother like Legos, which is nice if you're on the spectrum.

For my purposes it's close enough to 124 grain hst for practice/training use. Only issue is that they put something shiny on the rounds and it flakes off when you shoot. To my knowledge it doesn't cause any functional issues, just gold specks in the gun where normal debris collects.

If it was cheap and more readily avaliable, I would shoot Federal syntech.

 

[wopirish]

yooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, I have dreamed of such a thing but never thought it possible.

I cannot wait till we see how it performs in real life, that belt fed ar-15 looks cool too. Wonder how long it will be until we see reviews of that recoil system.

 

[Seafarer]

 

[Basado]