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Is it really a risk when you have a built in customer base that slobbered your knob at every instance because you undercut the rest of the cheap market and trumpet MADE IN MURICA! at all the boomer congregations?

I'm not going to get into another argument on the "quality" of their AKs, if you think they're good you simply don't fucking shoot. It's like thinking they can divide by zero. As for risk, it wasn't. They were just copying their competition at the time; I.O. (aka Royal Tiger Imports), CAI, Riley Defense (their AKs suck too but at least they try). There's quite a bit of companies that were all doing US made AKs around the same time and let me tell you, not one of them has made a good product. Sure, PSA does minute improvements every generation (soon they're going to have more AK variants than the Russian government, but not for the same reasons) but they still cheap the fuck out on the most important part of making these rifles and until they stop doing that, they're going to continue to suck.

Rant over, it's your money to set on fire.
I take it you're the type to slobber over Kalashnikov USA's trash or maybe Arsenal for giving you the privilege to drop $2500 on a nice and heavy milled AK 😅

When some fuckhead Democratic admin band AK imports you'll be thanking PSA for making AKs that aren't shit. Oh and 99% of AK buyers aren't putting 25,000 rounds through their rifles.... Ever
 
I take it you're the type to slobber over Kalashnikov USA's trash or maybe Arsenal for giving you the privilege to drop $2500 on a nice and heavy milled AK 😅

When some fuckhead Democratic admin band AK imports you'll be thanking PSA for making AKs that aren't shit. Oh and 99% of AK buyers aren't putting 25,000 rounds through their rifles.... Ever
Nah, I'll be honest and say I never even got to try any of KUSA's rifles. It's ironic because I lived an hour away from their factory in Pompano Beach and they would give people tours sometimes.

I love AKs, they're my favorite rifle platform for whatever autistic reason but not one of them is worth $2500, not even a T1 parts kit if you can find one. And no I won't be thanking PSA at all. That'd be like thanking IO or CAI or the trash they make. PSA doesn't make rifles that aren't shit and yeah, your reddit tier gun owner isn't putting 25,000 rounds through anything because the majority of them are hobbyist and larpers. That being said, before ammo skyrocketed, plenty of people were putting that much or close to it through them. You know the only reason 5.45 was popular in the US is because it was so cheap people would buy 5.45 AR uppers and get those 1,000 rd ammo tins for next to nothing. I'm sorry you don't know shit about fuck but the import scene being garbage doesn't magically make domestic producers good. Likewise, that doesn't mean a stamped or milled AK is worth what they go for now (they're not). If you missed the boat, you missed the boat.
 
The UMP is a chunky Boi that deserves your love and affection. Still working on a new gun, I'm thinking at this point a Hi-Point Carbine in 45, LGS sells em, but this is what I really want. That or a repro Tommy lol.
I will say PSA DOES take risks and they're finally making good AKs (note, waiting a few months to a year for all of their 5.56mm/5.45mm releases just to be safe)

See JAKL, Dagr, the 5.7mm thing, among others.

The problem with new guns is some dumbass will roll up and start saying "why should I buy this new pistol mag Glawk is just fine" or "that new rifle isn't an AR Pass"

This is even more true if your new gun has wood furniture or doesn't look TACTICAL.
Is it really a risk when you have a built in customer base that slobbered your knob at every instance because you undercut the rest of the cheap market and trumpet MADE IN MURICA! at all the boomer congregations?

I'm not going to get into another argument on the "quality" of their AKs, if you think they're good you simply don't fucking shoot. It's like thinking they can divide by zero. As for risk, it wasn't. They were just copying their competition at the time; I.O. (aka Royal Tiger Imports), CAI, Riley Defense (their AKs suck too but at least they try). There's quite a bit of companies that were all doing US made AKs around the same time and let me tell you, not one of them has made a good product. Sure, PSA does minute improvements every generation (soon they're going to have more AK variants than the Russian government, but not for the same reasons) but they still cheap the fuck out on the most important part of making these rifles and until they stop doing that, they're going to continue to suck.

Rant over, it's your money to set on fire.

Personally I just want a AK. A nicer one can come later. As long as it goes bang reliably enough and shares ammo with my SKS, I'm good with cheaper for a while.
 
Personally I just want a AK. A nicer one can come later. As long as it goes bang reliably enough and shares ammo with my SKS, I'm good with cheaper for a while.
With Zastavas being so plentiful now, I'd say get one of those over anything else in that price tier. I truly don't believe any AKs are worth over $1200.
 
With Zastavas being so plentiful now, I'd say get one of those over anything else in that price tier. I truly don't believe any AKs are worth over $1200.
I gave you optimistic because of how you think my budget is lol. Im saving for a Hi point Carbine rn man lol. 1200 is quite a bit compared to a PSA, that'll shoot soda cans and watermelons just fine. I got my SKS for reliability.
 
I gave you optimistic because of how you think my budget is lol. Im saving for a Hi point Carbine rn man lol. 1200 is quite a bit compared to a PSA, that'll shoot soda cans and watermelons just fine. I got my SKS for reliability.
disregard financial security, attain glory
 
I love AKs, they're my favorite rifle platform for whatever autistic reason but not one of them is worth $2500, not even a T1 parts kit if you can find one.
Early on I was a total vatnik about AKs, to the point where I had wet dreams about finding early, original, intact Russian milled AKs at garage sales. Then I inherited an Arsenal SLR-95 (postban with hideous thumbhole stock), and finally got my hands on an OG AK-47 (made in '57) for a little while as part of a trust (low round-count, not a shot-out example).

Instead of being a rifle that exuded Slavic purity & was infused with the spirit of Stalin, the thing had a receiver & barrel which would've gotten a Chinaman sent for immediate reeducation, being responsible for such a hogged-out, haggard conglomerate of parts. And is the one time I couldn't even say that Century was at fault.
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The thing which rescued my esteem for the AK was that Arsenal, because nothing else would've worked if made to the standards of that Soviet example, certainly not any rifle from the West. Even neutered, the SLR-95 was an exceedingly well-made & accurate rifle. It proved to me that the design itself was sound as a platform for improvement, along with how much of a difference there is between a shit AK and a good AK, and how little daylight there actually is between a good AK & shit AK.
You know the only reason 5.45 was popular in the US is because it was so cheap people would buy 5.45 AR uppers and get those 1,000 rd ammo tins for next to nothing. I'm sorry you don't know shit about fuck but the import scene being garbage doesn't magically make domestic producers good.
It was never that cheap anywhere I lived, even during the happy times when everything was abundant. For a long time it seemed like most places were still selling it (and the rifles) for prices before the flood, and they only dropped when they realized people weren't buying it. I think it was even a Sportsman's with pallets of 5.56 & 5.45 on the floor next to each other, and the Russian stuff was fully 3x the price of good ol' Lake City quiet-pills, and ARs weren't exactly ubiquitous either. I would've thought that markup for 5.45 was fair based on rarity of difficulty importing, but holy shit, I found out they were importing tons of that ammunition for comparitive pennies. I was taught (by an actual Jew) to take the average wholesale price, double it, then add between 7-14% (depending) to find the proper retail; but people were regularly hawking 5.45 for triple what retail should've been, like straight up dumb nigger prices.

And the same went for 5.7... only much worse.
Likewise, that doesn't mean a stamped or milled AK is worth what they go for now (they're not). If you missed the boat, you missed the boat.
I was on the boat, but got off when I learned the truth about Russian boats.
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I'm sorry friend. I can remember when my local gun store had Mosin's on a revolving rack and not one of them was over $70. A decent AK was $300-500. Ammo was cheap, plentiful, and you could buy by the pallet. Shoulder things that go up and barrel shrouds were not yet banned. The before time.

Instead of being a rifle that exuded Slavic purity & was infused with the spirit of Stalin, the thing had a receiver & barrel which would've gotten a Chinaman sent for immediate reeducation, being responsible for such a hogged-out, haggard conglomerate of parts. And is the one time I couldn't even say that Century was at fault.
This has always been the thing, what you get is a crap shoot. Especially if it was produced during a war. I swear to god my piece of shit WASR-10 that I've had over a decade is a better put together, more fightable AK than anything RD puts out. Whatever drunken, wife beating, cousin fucking gypsy put it together came to work sober that one day when it was built.

That's another thing I like about AKs, their build process is so much more interesting. You can make AK vs AR comparisons all day long but I never felt that an AR was so subject to the basic competence of a builder than an AK was, which is literally put together by hand and presses. Nowadays these bent gypsy crack pipes go for over $1000 and you don't even get accessories with them anymore. I remember telling someone every time I got an AK, it always came with an oiler, one or two magazines, cleaning kit, rod, and a sling. Nowadays? You might be lucky if you get a single shitty Gen 1 AK PMag.
 
I gave you optimistic because of how you think my budget is lol. Im saving for a Hi point Carbine rn man lol. 1200 is quite a bit compared to a PSA, that'll shoot soda cans and watermelons just fine. I got my SKS for reliability.
A $600 blem PSAK GF3 is just fine for a solid 25,000 rounds

That or maybe a $800 WASR-10 if you wanna get the OG Eastern European stuff.

Don't listen to that other guy, people have shot the GF3 (NEVER BUY A GF1 OR GF2) to failure and it's fine. It goes bang, it's a real AK, and it eats 7.62x39mm all day everyday and if it is fucked up, PSA will make it right.
 
A $600 blem PSAK GF3 is just fine for a solid 25,000 rounds

That or maybe a $800 WASR-10 if you wanna get the OG Eastern European stuff.

Don't listen to that other guy, people have shot the GF3 (NEVER BUY A GF1 OR GF2) to failure and it's fine. It goes bang, it's a real AK, and it eats 7.62x39mm all day everyday and if it is fucked up, PSA will make it right.
The fact that they have to "make it right" is proof that they made it wrong in the first place.
 
With Zastavas being so plentiful now, I'd say get one of those over anything else in that price tier. I truly don't believe any AKs are worth over $1200.
Get a Wasr-10 for $800, proprietary Serb stuff can piss off.

Zastava is being greedy (a classic Serb trait) charging $1200 for their AK with lots of special parts because they love arming Ukraine so much. Oh and it took them until 2021 to FUCKING CHROME LINE THEIR BARRELS.

Sportsman's and Atlantic have WASR for $799 and $812 Right now.

European stamped AK discussion is now over.
 
I'm sorry but you are a dumb nigger when it comes to AKs. No one here should take your very obviously uninformed advice. You don't know fuck all of WHY Serb AKs are different, just that you can't shove some cheap CAI beechwood or shitty Magpul furniture on one and call it a day.

Also, the shovel AK is an ages old meme/joke you retard.
 
The fact that they have to "make it right" is proof that they made it wrong in the first place.
Yes and they fixed it. Most gun companies or any manufacturing company fucks something up. They made it better. Don't buy the first two shitty gens and if you did..... Sucks but I didn't force you to buy it.

You can either hold onto the silly idea that "the only good AK is made by Eastern Europeans" or join the 2020s and be cool with a $600 PSAK when a WASR-10 is $800 and Serb shit is $1200+ and Bulgarian milled pigs are $2500.

I'm sorry but you are a dumb nigger when it comes to AKs. No one here should take your very obviously uninformed advice.

Also, the shovel AK is an ages old meme/joke you retard.
The shovel AK is a reddit teir meme, a site you seem accustomed to.

The real idiot here is you acting like an asshurt monkey because you got a "mean reaction".

Grow thicker skin faggot

Call me when a Euro AK is under $600 again and maybe I'll get another. My WASR-10 was $550.
 
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Don't listen to that other guy, people have shot the GF3 (NEVER BUY A GF1 OR GF2) to failure and it's fine. It goes bang, it's a real AK, and it eats 7.62x39mm all day everyday and if it is fucked up, PSA will make it right.
Oh and it took them until 2021 to FUCKING CHROME LINE THEIR BARRELS.
Odd choice to defend PSA for releasing two generations of a rifle that would break under light use and then bash Zastava for selling rifles without chrome lining up until the last few years. One of those things would work just fine, only you'd need to watch more for shitty ammo and cleaning, and the other would simply break.

Anyways the whole AK argument is retarded at this point. I like AKs because they're foreign and allow me to own guns made in the same combloc factories that pumped out weapons used throughout the cold war. US made AKs just feel soulless. They don't have the practical advantages of an AR, but lack the "soul" of the imports.

PSA's rampant QC issues and habit of alpha and beta testing via the public make them an easy punching bag.
 
Leaving aside the whole AK manufacturer debate, I will say that I like dressing up/accessorizing my AK more than my ARs. The ARs all end up looking mostly the same save for optics choices, but my AK (Century RH-10 with some of the worst machining finishes I've ever seen and about 10k thru the pipe) is pretty much my favorite gun now. It's got a mishmash of furniture bought cheap from Apex and Atlantic, a microdot mounted on a rear sight leaf T1/T2 mount and hockey tape on multiple parts, all fed by beat up milsurp mags that still work great despite the dents and light rust. It looks like the kind of gun that a Fallout raider would use, and I dig that.
 
Russians find OG Lend Lease Thompsons, in the Solidar salt mines:

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Odd choice to defend PSA for releasing two generations of a rifle that would break under light use and then bash Zastava for selling rifles without chrome lining up until the last few years. One of those things would work just fine, only you'd need to watch more for shitty ammo and cleaning, and the other would simply break.

Anyways the whole AK argument is retarded at this point. I like AKs because they're foreign and allow me to own guns made in the same combloc factories that pumped out weapons used throughout the cold war. US made AKs just feel soulless. They don't have the practical advantages of an AR, but lack the "soul" of the imports.

PSA's rampant QC issues and habit of alpha and beta testing via the public make them an easy punching bag.
It's simple; these people know they bought cheap garbage but they put an emotional investment in it because they feel they have to defend buying cheap garbage. Hence you get stupid arguments such as "no ur wrong and a elitist, PSAs are fine!!1111111111111". They can't understand that the reason people prefer combloc is because they're actually fucking built right.

Then you got morons that think boutiques like Krebs and Rifle Dynamics manufactured their rifles instead of just building on parts kits and selling them for vastly inflated prices. I will gives Krebs credit though, he made a lot of cool, almost unique shit for AKs. RD are a bunch of faggots with sticks up their asses.
 
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