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How do niggers always fuck up this bad when it comes to firearms? At first I thought it was a modified Garand with a pistol grip, but on closer inspection, nope.
 
Odd choice to defend PSA for releasing two generations of a rifle that would break under light use and then bash Zastava for selling rifles without chrome lining up until the last few years. One of those things would work just fine, only you'd need to watch more for shitty ammo and cleaning, and the other would simply break.

Anyways the whole AK argument is retarded at this point. I like AKs because they're foreign and allow me to own guns made in the same combloc factories that pumped out weapons used throughout the cold war. US made AKs just feel soulless. They don't have the practical advantages of an AR, but lack the "soul" of the imports.

PSA's rampant QC issues and habit of alpha and beta testing via the public make them an easy punching bag.
I'll say again and again that the Gen 1 and 2 PSAKs are trash, just like Riley, RAI, IO, Kalashnikov USA, etc. They shouldn't be purchased.

All that said when PSA releases their Gen 2 USA made Dragunov in the late 2020s I'll buy one.

By all means, get an imported AK (I have one and want another) while you still can. That supply can be cut off in an afternoon by a politician.
 
heavy milled AK
I look at AKs like I do the FAL, cool (and actually still viable, even) but dated. What I want the most out of a Kalashnikov is an old fashioned milled receiver rifle with wood furniture, and that's for a collectible and rangetoy. If I want my rifle to not weigh so much, I'll look to the AR15.
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Also Arsenal's forged receiver guns aren't that much heavier than other AKM and AK74s.

but not one of them is worth $2500
If I could chance into a nice condition Polytech Legend for that price, and it came with its magazines, the sling, bayonet, etc, I would jump on it. Of course, they tend to go for a lot more than that now.

Russians find OG Lend Lease Thompsons, in the Solidar salt mines
Oooh, I love those old chunky things, just like I love a milled AK.

lol who here remember James Yeager?
I remember him killing himself.
 
In solidary with all those gunbros who live in tyrant states I put the a-tm stock on my mini. (backorder for close to 3 months got damn samson hire some more dudes)
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Russians find OG Lend Lease Thompsons, in the Solidar salt mines:
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The money they can make off selling those things can single-handedly fund the war effort.

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Also I know this is probably an often asked question on this thread but I figured since you’re debating AK manufacturers that it would be an alright time to ask. Over the past couple years my old man and I have gotten increasingly paranoid about SHtF and my dad has gotten interested in getting a rifle. Initially he was interested in an AR platform but after a brief walk through a couple stores he’s shown more interest in AK platforms which is wild because he’s a veteran and you’d think he’d already be more accustomed to an AR by now. Guess he wants something more exotic. I want him to get something that isn’t shit and will blow up in his hands but he doesn’t want to get anything that’s super expensive. I’m not a big gun guru by any means and can count the amount of times I’ve fired a gun on one hand, but every time I do some digging it’s always Reddit posts and fuck Reddit. This is definitely a better place to ask especially with the no-nonsense shit and detail-oriented view people have here.

Would an AK or an AR platform be the better go to, and what models/manufacturers would you guys recommend? I’ve heard Romanian AKs are alright for the price but you guys probably know better. I’ve made a pretty big list of 25 manufacturers that get good rep with their ARs, but I can’t really narrow it down to something that would make us feel comfortable in purchasing and not have us feel that we’ve been shorted, duped or spent way too much money. I’d figure I’d get him something for Father’s Day or for his birthday so it gives us something else to bond over. Who knows, if it appears that the AR or the AK seems to be the better consensus, maybe I’ll buy the opposite platform for myself so me and my old man can feel like we got them both.

Also if you guys know some good sellers it would be much appreciated.
 
find an older Maadi or Bulgarian import, or Veprs (Saiga too if you don't mind conversions, but judging the quality of a conversion might require experience you don't have at hand). WASRs (CAI imported Romanian AKs) are alright for the price especially if you don't mind little fixes for things. However the Romanian AK in general are pretty good too when they are imported rather than kit builds, the SAR-1 for example. The WASR rifle would probably be the "bottom tier" of an AK i wouldn't feel bad about buying.

Norinco is unlikely to be found, but they are also very nice.

You might want to also consider a Yugoslavian or Serbian AK as well, like the various M70, or NPAP and ZPAP rifles. they have unique parts different from "standard" AKs, but are good shooters overall.

i don't know your budget, but it's hard to beat (if you want a reliable shooter that isn't breaking the bank) an M70 of one kind or another. the M70AB1 for example is a pretty basic 7.62x39 AKMS-style rifle.
 
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Do you live in the US? If yes, AR hands down. Logistics is a real thing, AKs are hobbyist toys in America. There is nowhere near the spare parts or ammo saturation that the AR enjoys.
In the AR vs AK debate, the AR is the correct answer 99.99% of the time.
 
Also I know this is probably an often asked question on this thread but I figured since you’re debating AK manufacturers that it would be an alright time to ask. Over the past couple years my old man and I have gotten increasingly paranoid about SHtF and my dad has gotten interested in getting a rifle
I think the first step foe anything related to SHTF preparation is to define what exactly you mean by SHTF and what exactly you plan to do about it that situation.

Are you thinking civil unrest or total collapse?

Do you intend to stay in place and wait it out? Will it become the new normal? Will you relocate to a safer location?

These answers are way more important than AR vs AK and will probably make your choice easy.
 
to step away from "guns" for SHTF, you and your father might want to do the easy thing 1st and evaluate your disaster preparedness for earthquake, flood, fire, tornado, power/water/waste disruption, logistics (food, fuel, toiletries, et c) disruption before considering armaments. that being said, securing a home against robbery with sound structure, locks, windows, doors, a simple sensor-based security system with alarm are all very affordable and less legally and socially dubious standards that you can get a lot of help with from many sources, and even get discounts on services or subsidies to be brought up to your local codes. safe storage for valuables and legal (titles, deeds, certificates, permits, et c) documents, et c

after all that, a handgun for the night stand and/or rifle if you want longer engagement ranges can be considered. a stolen or rusted out weapon or corroded ammunition doesn't do anyone any favors.
 
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I think the first step foe anything related to SHTF preparation is to define what exactly you mean by SHTF and what exactly you plan to do about it that situation.

Are you thinking civil unrest or total collapse?

Do you intend to stay in place and wait it out? Will it become the new normal? Will you relocate to a safer location?

These answers are way more important than AR vs AK and will probably make your choice easy.
I agree with this but when everyone asks about "SHTF" they don't want to hear common sense, they want weapons and armor recommendations. They don't want to be told to keep copies of important documents and keep them in easy to get to places if you have to leave RIGHT NOW. They don't want to be told to have written plans of where to meet family members or check lists of things to have. All that shit requires forethought and work and you don't look as dashing as you would trying to slip into that XXXL JPC, so I don't bother.
 
find an older Maadi or Bulgarian import, or Veprs (Saiga too if you don't mind conversions, but judging the quality of a conversion might require experience you don't have at hand). WASRs (CAI imported Romanian AKs) are alright for the price especially if you don't mind little fixes for things. However the Romanian AK in general are pretty good too when they are imported rather than kit builds, the SAR-1 for example. The WASR rifle would probably be the "bottom tier" of an AK i wouldn't feel bad about buying.

Norinco is unlikely to be found, but they are also very nice.

You might want to also consider a Yugoslavian or Serbian AK as well, like the various M70, or NPAP and ZPAP rifles. they have unique parts different from "standard" AKs, but are good shooters overall.

i don't know your budget, but it's hard to beat (if you want a reliable shooter that isn't breaking the bank) an M70 of one kind or another. the M70AB1 for example is a pretty basic 7.62x39 AKMS-style rifle.
All good options, although I'd still not drop more than $1,000 for an AK pattern rifle.

As for ARs..... Plenty of excellent options out there and even then, $1500 gets you all the AR you'll ever need. Top end is BCM or Daniel Defense, under $1k is an IWI Zion on sale, an Aero Precision, a PSA Premium build kit if you're kinda handy or if you're REALLY cheap and don't mind a carbine length gas system, a S&W M&P Sport 2.
to step away from "guns" for SHTF, you and your father might want to do the easy thing 1st and evaluate your disaster preparedness for earthquake, flood, fire, tornado, power/water/waste disruption, logistics (food, fuel, toiletries, et c) disruption before considering armaments. that being said, securing a home against robbery with sound structure, locks, windows, doors, a simple sensor-based security system with alarm are all very affordable and less legally and socially dubious standards that you can get a lot of help with from many sources, and even get discounts on services or subsidies to be brought up to your local codes. safe storage for valuables and legal (titles, deeds, certificates, permits, et c) documents, et c

after all that, a handgun for the night stand and/or rifle if you want longer engagement ranges can be considered. a stolen or rusted out weapon or corroded ammunition doesn't do anyone any favors.
Completely agree.

So many don't realize that some door frame reinforcement, better door locks, glass break alarms, and break glass film, motion activated lights and a few cameras can make your home a lot less of a target.

Also, have 3 days worth of non perishable food and water for everyone in the house ina safe and secure location along with a crank charged/powered radio and a solar charger/battery bank for a smartphone.
 
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to step away from "guns" for SHTF, you and your father might want to do the easy thing 1st and evaluate your disaster preparedness for earthquake, flood, fire, tornado, power/water/waste disruption, logistics (food, fuel, toiletries, et c) disruption before considering armaments. that being said, securing a home against robbery with sound structure, locks, windows, doors, a simple sensor-based security system with alarm are all very affordable and less legally and socially dubious standards that you can get a lot of help with from many sources, and even get discounts on services or subsidies to be brought up to your local codes. safe storage for valuables and legal (titles, deeds, certificates, permits, et c) documents, et c

after all that, a handgun for the night stand and/or rifle if you want longer engagement ranges can be considered. a stolen or rusted out weapon or corroded ammunition doesn't do anyone any favors.
One of the benefits of living in a disaster-prone (hurricanes!) area is that you have all this sorted already unless you're just absolutely retarded.
 
I think the first step foe anything related to SHTF preparation is to define what exactly you mean by SHTF and what exactly you plan to do about it that situation.

Are you thinking civil unrest or total collapse?

Do you intend to stay in place and wait it out? Will it become the new normal? Will you relocate to a safer location?

These answers are way more important than AR vs AK and will probably make your choice easy.
My Dad believes that the United States isn’t going to be a cushy first world nation and power for much longer, which is why he recently moved out to a more open and remote location.
to step away from "guns" for SHTF, you and your father might want to do the easy thing 1st and evaluate your disaster preparedness for earthquake, flood, fire, tornado, power/water/waste disruption, logistics (food, fuel, toiletries, et c) disruption before considering armaments. that being said, securing a home against robbery with sound structure, locks, windows, doors, a simple sensor-based security system with alarm are all very affordable and less legally and socially dubious standards that you can get a lot of help with from many sources, and even get discounts on services or subsidies to be brought up to your local codes. safe storage for valuables and legal (titles, deeds, certificates, permits, et c) documents, et c

after all that, a handgun for the night stand and/or rifle if you want longer engagement ranges can be considered. a stolen or rusted out weapon or corroded ammunition doesn't do anyone any favors.
My Dad is a pretty meticulous man so he already has a head start on being prepared for stuff like disasters since he lost his entire house in a tornado when he was a kid. He’s been getting into stockpiling food and utilities and currently in the process of getting a generator and trying to turn a lot of extra money into valuable metals like gold and silver because the only thing paper money is going to be good for is to wipe your ass or burn for warmth if shit gets crazy. He’s ordered a bunch of those food buckets he’s seen on television but I’m not entirely sure of the quality those things have compared to MREs and canned goods. He’s already got camera systems because he’s dealt with shitheads before on his old property, though an alarm system isn’t something I think he’s thought of yet especially since he moved into a bigger, remote property. I definitely brought up sensor lights though since he doesn’t have to worry about neighbors complaining about them anymore. He already owns an Sig Sauer P320 and a Remington 870 but of course he’s looking to broaden his arsenal to more than just 9mm and 12 gauge. He’s already familiar with basic medical procedures due to his job but me and him are signing up for emergency medical training especially for stuff like firearm injuries. I’d like to say he’s pretty much on the right track, but there’s always more to do.

Also if I’m not mistaken isn’t there a prepping thread on here? I thought there was but it seemed kinda inactive.
 
My Dad is a pretty meticulous man so he already has a head start on being prepared for stuff like disasters since he lost his entire house in a tornado when he was a kid. He’s been getting into stockpiling food and utilities and currently in the process of getting a generator and trying to turn a lot of extra money into valuable metals like gold and silver because the only thing paper money is going to be good for is to wipe your ass or burn for warmth if shit gets crazy. He’s ordered a bunch of those food buckets he’s seen on television but I’m not entirely sure of the quality those things have compared to MREs and canned goods. He’s already got camera systems because he’s dealt with shitheads before on his old property, though an alarm system isn’t something I think he’s thought of yet especially since he moved into a bigger, remote property. I definitely brought up sensor lights though since he doesn’t have to worry about neighbors complaining about them anymore. He already owns an Sig Sauer P320 and a Remington 870 but of course he’s looking to broaden his arsenal to more than just 9mm and 12 gauge. He’s already familiar with basic medical procedures due to his job but me and him are signing up for emergency medical training especially for stuff like firearm injuries. I’d like to say he’s pretty much on the right track, but there’s always more to do.
He forgot one thing: teaching his children not to make him a target for no reason on the Internet.
 
My Dad is a pretty meticulous man so he already has a head start on being prepared for stuff like disasters since he lost his entire house in a tornado when he was a kid. He’s been getting into stockpiling food and utilities and currently in the process of getting a generator and trying to turn a lot of extra money into valuable metals like gold and silver because the only thing paper money is going to be good for is to wipe your ass or burn for warmth if shit gets crazy. He’s ordered a bunch of those food buckets he’s seen on television but I’m not entirely sure of the quality those things have compared to MREs and canned goods. He’s already got camera systems because he’s dealt with shitheads before on his old property, though an alarm system isn’t something I think he’s thought of yet especially since he moved into a bigger, remote property. I definitely brought up sensor lights though since he doesn’t have to worry about neighbors complaining about them anymore. He already owns an Sig Sauer P320 and a Remington 870 but of course he’s looking to broaden his arsenal to more than just 9mm and 12 gauge. He’s already familiar with basic medical procedures due to his job but me and him are signing up for emergency medical training especially for stuff like firearm injuries. I’d like to say he’s pretty much on the right track, but there’s always more to do.
I'd reccomend a rifle honestly. A AR platform rifle is fine. Bolt action would be good for hunting.
 
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