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Just make sure everything is nice and tight when you get it. Their QA is notoriously shit even on their ARs.

Apparently the early ones had issues with the gasblock being loose or something? I've assembled quite a few AR's at this point, a loose gas block or gas key improperly staked I have more than enough tools and know-how to repair. I had a .300BLK 7" that had issues with being very under-gassed, I ended up opening up the gas port to ".109 IIRC and installing a nice "adjustable on the fly" gas block, after that it ate subs/supers no problem.


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I'm looking for recommendations for a small gun. I'm looking for something pocketable and at an affordable price ($300 max). I know that locks me out of cool fancy shit but I honestly don't care since I only plan on using it for rare range visits. I've had people recommend me some small .38 or .22 revolvers. I only plan on keeping it for home defense or the rare instances I feel I need to carry.
Honestly, save up another $100 and get a used glock. Or check the trade in/bargain bin at your LGS, if they have one. There are some fucking KILLER deals in there sometimes. There is a particular retard gun I didn't know existed till I walked in the other day to get my girl some 300blk. It's a Magnum Research Mini Desert eagle in 380 with 3 mags for around $300. Getting it next month. Didn't know I wanted the little retard till I dumped it in my boot and couldn't feel it, getting it instead of the Makarov. Don't buy retard guns unless you wanna learn gunsmithing and sourcing parts.
If you're new to shooting, have a friend teach you and go with you. If you're poor and starting out, don't get stuck with a gun you hate. See if any ranges have the guns for rent first, use those. See if you even like it before you dump the money. If you aren't practiced, I'd get something small and heavy. Like an S&w 38spl. If you're not used to shooting, you're gonna scare yourself with hot rounds in a plastic gun, which will make you practice way less, which is an endless loop of not great.
And lastly, make sure it is a well known, name brand. If you're just starting out, you don't wanna have to deal with scouring 2015 forums to see if anyone has a line on a part or a schematic for a gun half the world doesn't even know exists.
 
I forget to ask, if anyone has any suggestions for a cheap but effective to go with my cheap but effective target/varmint .223 Wylde upper, I am open to suggestions, I was just going to find something on Optics Planet with a good review otherwise. I'm thinking 40MM adjustable something around 5-30 power. Open to suggestions.

In other news, Apparently the 3D printing gun community AWCY, has made functioning FN PS90's. The cost of parts was somewhere around $300. Considering its a 20+ year old pattern and it's basically 6 pounds of plastic, a bolt and a barrel. The MSRP of the real thing should be $500-$600 tops, imho. Apparently people (people like Patrick "Fat faggot" Tomlinson Patrick's KF thread) are still willing to pay top dollar for something chambered in a pointless/overpriced/under powered cartridge. Injection molded plastic is stupid cheap to run once the tooling has been produced, I mean the thing doesn't even have a locking breach. I wouldn't be surprised if FN's total cost in making the PS90/P90 was under $150 USD, per unit. IMHO they should have at least attempte to make similar models in cartridges that have a good history of being effective in lethality and easily obtained like plain old 9mm /10mm. 10mm is a strait-walled cartridge I think it could be easily adapted to a rotating magazine, not that we're ever going to see one though.

 
The "discount DMR" project continues on with a $100 Barska 6-24X50 and a $20 no name M-lock bipod. So far total cost without the lower is $800 USD.

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I forget to ask, if anyone has any suggestions for a cheap but effective to go with my cheap but effective target/varmint .223 Wylde upper
If you're asking about an optic, I can confidently suggest the Vortex Strike Eagle, the SE-31802. I've seen them on eurooptic.com (a great site) for $749 with free shipping. That's pretty good for a very decent starter scope. If you really want LR capability out of an AR-15 platform I'd recommend you move to 6mm ARC. I recognize you're trying to do this as inexpensively as possible, but I think you're going to be disappointed by how poorly 5.56 performs at LR distances. I'm not talking about just M193 or M855 (🤮), but even the good stuff like Mk 262 is underwhelming once you get a taste of something better designed for LR and ELR.

Apparently the early ones had issues with the gasblock being loose or something? I've assembled quite a few AR's at this point, a loose gas block or gas key improperly staked I have more than enough tools and know-how to repair. I had a .300BLK 7" that had issues with being very under-gassed, I ended up opening up the gas port to ".109 IIRC and installing a nice "adjustable on the fly" gas block, after that it ate subs/supers no problem.
Out of curiosity, were you running this suppressed?
 
I'm looking for recommendations for a small gun. I'm looking for something pocketable and at an affordable price ($300 max). I know that locks me out of cool fancy shit but I honestly don't care since I only plan on using it for rare range visits. I've had people recommend me some small .38 or .22 revolvers. I only plan on keeping it for home defense or the rare instances I feel I need to carry.

but seriously, there's good S&W used k frame and j frames floating around, sometimes for quite cheap like the model 36, 60, model 10 and 15, and so forth. even the model 642 if you're into torturing your knuckles.
I can only recommend what I know, and I carry a old Model 36. 38 special in snubbies has a track record the size of a football field. Get the old 158 grain FBI load and you honestly can't go wrong. Good for pocket carry and all things that go bump in the night.
 
If you're asking about an optic, I can confidently suggest the Vortex Strike Eagle, the SE-31802. I've seen them on eurooptic.com (a great site) for $749 with free shipping. That's pretty good for a very decent starter scope. If you really want LR capability out of an AR-15 platform I'd recommend you move to 6mm ARC. I recognize you're trying to do this as inexpensively as possible, but I think you're going to be disappointed by how poorly 5.56 performs at LR distances. I'm not talking about just M193 or M855 (🤮), but even the good stuff like Mk 262 is underwhelming once you get a taste of something better designed for LR and ELR.


Out of curiosity, were you running this suppressed?

TY but, I went with the Barska already, I've had good luck with them in the past in 6-18 x40 for my 17hmr rifle. Part of this project is to keep the entire thing under 1k.

Yes, the subs were not cycling with/without the added back pressure of the can. With the adjustable gas block I just recorded a setting for supers and a setting for subs.
 
Have YOU ever played a video game that featured the PP-19 Bizon/Bizon-2 and come to desire possession of one only to come to the crushing realization that you can never acquire one?
Well Rejoice! For the Gun Printers of the Black Lotus Coalition are currently testing a 3D Printable Bizon style Helical magazine for Kalashnikov USA KP-9's and soon to be for PSA AKV's
Holds 64 rounds of 9mm
Current version mounts to the handguard but it is planned that the release version will mount to the FSB
They are also developing a North Korean style AK-74 Helical mag
 

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The "discount DMR" project continues on with a $100 Barska 6-24X50 and a $20 no name M-lock bipod. So far total cost without the lower is $800 USD.

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I would have suggested the PA SLx 4-16x44 FFP R-Grid ($299), but that ship has sailed, I guess. Pretty solid FFP optic for the money. I've got one on a 18" 5.56 AR and another on my Hera/Howa .308 bolt gun.

Also, the newly-released MDT Oryx bipod is pretty great as those things go. If you don't need the pan of the Magpul bipod, it's significantly sturdier and right around a bill.
 
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Interesting this came out today, their Twitter's already locked down after endless trashing of them.

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Liberty Safe, "America's #1 heavy-duty home and gun safe manufacturer," according to their website, issued a statement late Tuesday night confirming that they'd given the FBI an access code to a customer's gun safe in response to a request on August 30, 2023. That request came during a raid on the home of a man who'd attended a protest on January 6.
 
Interesting this came out today, their Twitter's already locked down after endless trashing of them.

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Liberty Safe, "America's #1 heavy-duty home and gun safe manufacturer," according to their website, issued a statement late Tuesday night confirming that they'd given the FBI an access code to a customer's gun safe in response to a request on August 30, 2023. That request came during a raid on the home of a man who'd attended a protest on January 6.
That is a cucked move bruh. Personally don't keep mine in a safe, don't have room, but if you have one, or even just a padlock, you should feel secure that the code/key won't be given out.
 
I dunno. I mean I get it, it's principles. They should not do that in a just world.

On the other hand it's directly analagous to what Josh said to Graf about his policy of non-compliance on Poast: Well cool, but what's your plan then, because if they have a warrant and you just say 'nah' they can literally throw you in jail for that.

I see a market, however, for safes with a common lock mechanism that you can put your own goddamn thing on. The paradigm for safes is the shitty digital keyboard lock holding up the bolt mechanism but how about just design that mechanism so that you can throw a puck lock on it? It's actually weird that this was considered the faster option than just busting the fucking thing open or wheeling the safe out but feds are lazy.

Actually if such a product exists point me at it. I don't feel I need a safe - in the unlikely event that feral kids invade my house for the weekend I can put everything well out of reach but I kind of want a cabinet just for environmental control. Googling shows only the push button type.

Edit from the torzone: Oh I see it's about third party access, like the Apple case. Muddier, but I'm also not sure anyone not the size of Apple was ready for that fight.
 
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Actually if such a product exists point me at it. I don't feel I need a safe - in the unlikely event that feral kids invade my house for the weekend I can put everything well out of reach but I kind of want a cabinet just for environmental control. Googling shows only the push button type.
Non-push button safes do exist, but you're looking at real safes that start at around $2k and they'll offer dial combination/dial combination and key back up lock options. There was a site I can't find right now that autistically reviewed safes and went over things like fire ratings and how all of them in cheap safes are bullshit. He recommended a couple Made in USA brands that had good security and realistic fire ratings based on materials. This was 10ish years ago so the landscape may have changed some.

The only one I remember is Zanotti because their product was extremely interesting. They're safes that you assemble in your home. A 24 gun safe you can put in the basement after the home is built. I think the sides of the largest ones only weighed a few hundred pounds. I ended up staying with a Stack-On sheet metal special cabinet. It does the job of keeping small hands away and I live in an extremely low crime rural area. I took some effort to secure the cabinet beyond the norm. Some dope fiend who breaks into my house randomly probably won't be able to get into it, but it won't survive if a determined attacker with knowledge and intent to get our guns targets us a weekend we're away.
 
Liberty Safes are literal trash so doom on you if you have one.
 
Non-push button safes do exist, but you're looking at real safes that start at around $2k and they'll offer dial combination/dial combination and key back up lock options. There was a site I can't find right now that autistically reviewed safes and went over things like fire ratings and how all of them in cheap safes are bullshit. He recommended a couple Made in USA brands that had good security and realistic fire ratings based on materials. This was 10ish years ago so the landscape may have changed some.

The only one I remember is Zanotti because their product was extremely interesting. They're safes that you assemble in your home. A 24 gun safe you can put in the basement after the home is built. I think the sides of the largest ones only weighed a few hundred pounds. I ended up staying with a Stack-On sheet metal special cabinet. It does the job of keeping small hands away and I live in an extremely low crime rural area. I took some effort to secure the cabinet beyond the norm. Some dope fiend who breaks into my house randomly probably won't be able to get into it, but it won't survive if a determined attacker with knowledge and intent to get our guns targets us a weekend we're away.
Your notional solution sounds like about what I want, really. Where I'd put the cabinet in the basement it'd be like $50 and half an hour's work to add some PEX stubs and cover the area with a sprinkler so fire rating for me is kind 'lmao why'

Also Liberty's from Utah. Good luck buying from the Glowie State.
 
Your notional solution sounds like about what I want, really. Where I'd put the cabinet in the basement it'd be like $50 and half an hour's work to add some PEX stubs and cover the area with a sprinkler so fire rating for me is kind 'lmao why'

Also Liberty's from Utah. Good luck buying from the Glowie State.
I basically made a secure-ish walk in closet in the basement with a hardened exterior door and closely studded the wall so someone will have take tools and a bit of time no matter what they choose to go after. There is a camera that they probably notice until it gets a good look at their face if it isn't covered. Power/hand tools and other expensive or irreplaceable shit gets locked inside during vacation so they're going to have to bring their own. It's also not something I talk about so if someone's cousin's baby daddy hears what a gun nut I am and wants to make mine theirs, they'll still hopefully come unprepared.
 
I can recommend the S&W M&P Shield 2.0. I have one that I've put well over 3000 rounds through in the past 4 years. Easy to pocket carry, reliable, a shit ton of third party support, and finding used examples that have been fired very little and come in right around your price point isn't hard. I highly recommend you not consider a .22 LR (or even WMR) revolver for this role.

Whatever you end up getting, I can't recommend enough you get some training and then practice regularly. As I've said before, the vast majority of practice with a firearm to become skilled doesn't need to involve firing live ammo.

The middle of a fight is not the time and place you want to learn you don't know something important.
Agreed. Also the P365 in either 9mm and .380 is an excellent choice or a Springfield Hellcat.
Honestly, save up another $100 and get a used glock. Or check the trade in/bargain bin at your LGS, if they have one. There are some fucking KILLER deals in there sometimes. There is a particular retard gun I didn't know existed till I walked in the other day to get my girl some 300blk. It's a Magnum Research Mini Desert eagle in 380 with 3 mags for around $300. Getting it next month. Didn't know I wanted the little retard till I dumped it in my boot and couldn't feel it, getting it instead of the Makarov. Don't buy retard guns unless you wanna learn gunsmithing and sourcing parts.
If you're new to shooting, have a friend teach you and go with you. If you're poor and starting out, don't get stuck with a gun you hate. See if any ranges have the guns for rent first, use those. See if you even like it before you dump the money. If you aren't practiced, I'd get something small and heavy. Like an S&w 38spl. If you're not used to shooting, you're gonna scare yourself with hot rounds in a plastic gun, which will make you practice way less, which is an endless loop of not great.
And lastly, make sure it is a well known, name brand. If you're just starting out, you don't wanna have to deal with scouring 2015 forums to see if anyone has a line on a part or a schematic for a gun half the world doesn't even know exists.
Yep, especially stay away from Eastern or Central European guns for EDC stuff in the USA.
Interesting this came out today, their Twitter's already locked down after endless trashing of them.

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Liberty Safe, "America's #1 heavy-duty home and gun safe manufacturer," according to their website, issued a statement late Tuesday night confirming that they'd given the FBI an access code to a customer's gun safe in response to a request on August 30, 2023. That request came during a raid on the home of a man who'd attended a protest on January 6.
Ugh, any suggestions on a non cucked safe brand?
 
Ugh, any suggestions on a non cucked safe brand?
I just did a quick search and there are $1k-2k smaller safes on this site that offer mechanical locks. It looks like I misremembered how expensive they were because I believe Safe Guard was a brand recommended on that old site I mentioned. The name rings a bell and they are made in the US, which was all that guy recommended.

You'd have to call manufacturers to ask them about their dial locks. Call a locksmith as well when you find out the model number. Just frame it as a worst case scenario like you pass away unexpectedly and nobody can find the combination in your estate paperwork. Is there some sort of master combination or method that would allow a locksmith to open it non-destructively? I'm sure LE would have no qualms taking a torch to it so they're gonna get in, it's just a matter of seeing if they can make someone help them make the jobs easier.

A key backup is common so that's something you would want to give to someone you trust and keep your mouth shut about, take a picture or imprint so a new key could be made and keep that secure, or just destroy it and don't forget the combo.
 
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