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Why do you need a less capable, balistically and ergonomically different backup to your CCW?
Is your CCW something retarded like a full size 1911 or something equally big and stupid?
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Is your CCW something retarded like a full size 1911 or something equally big and stupid?
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It could potentially get knocked out of your hand, your regular CCW jams and don't have time to fix it, or you simply want something on a smaller form factor depending on where you are. Those are just a few reasons I can think of wanting a pocket gun.
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Shit, what happens when you drop your backup gun?
All these issues sound like things you figure out and fix with more time running your primary gun and training and setting it up so it doesn't slip out of your hand like a bar of soap in the shower, or irreparably jam and fall apart like a gun in Far Cry 2 when the condition goes down to zero.
Carrying a spare gun for your daily gun as a regular ass normal person sounds like carrying a spare engine with you in the trunk of your car in case the crank falls apart and you need to do a sudden engine swap on the side of the road in your way to work.
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I'm just saying there are reasons for it. And at the end of the day, if he needs that spare engine, he has it. You didn't talk about my last point, just swapping out your regular CCW at times for something smaller and lighter. It just might be more convenient at times to carry a mouse gun. At least he's going to have that option
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At 6:16 in that first documentary he calls a USAS-12 a SPAS-12.
Never change, ATF.
ChampFantana
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It's a G21, if that gives you any idea.
Honestly, I like the idea of a piece I can just stuff in a pocket when I don't feel like carrying my Block around.
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OK, so yeah, it is a full size service pistol. And in .45 ACP to boot. No wonder you want a pocket gun, you decided to EDC a duty pistol and now it's annoying because it's big and bulky.
So your solution to this is looking at .32 ACP ultra tiny pocket pistols.
Instead of going from one extreme to another, why don't you just get a carry piece that you will actually carry, that isn't some .32 ACP 6 round pop gun at the same time?
ChampFantana
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What would you recommend?
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I have come across a Belt Fed AR that is radically different from the dominant Fitelite Design made by Valkyrie Armament. The BRS-MOD-1.
The design differs dramatically from the Fitelite as it does not even have a hinging top cover.
MGI which I featured heavily in my last post was responsible for the marketing
Small Arms Review article on the BRS-MOD-1 (article contains many great images showcasing the internals and capability but there are too many to post here)
What is even more interesting (and this is pointed out in the article linked above) is that the BRS-MOD-1 is not a wholly original concept, in fact it dates back many decades to the time of Eugene Stoner himself. In the late 1980's/Early 1990's a man named Johnathan Arthur Ciener offered either pre-made conversions of belt fed AR uppers and conversion services for standard guns
SAR Article on the Ciener belt fed guns with again a great many images detailing the operating mechanism and modifications made to the gun.
As there is not a traditional pawl mechanism, the bolt carrier is responsible for actuating the belt feed. A similar mechanism is utilized in the BRS
The Valkyrie gun is merely an improvement of the Ciener which in itself is a modification of a prototype Belt Fed AR-10.
Video on the operation of the Ceiner gun
OSINT Researcher War Noir posted an interesting picture of a DP-27 LMG with either a Night vision or Thermal Optic and a reversed flash hider in use by Ukranian combatants
Next we have an interesting rifle that led me down a rabbit hole. An M1 Carbine chambered in .50African Eliminator Action Express made by a man named Tim LeGendre (who apparently invented the .450 Bushmaster)
It turns out that Mr. LeGendre had a habit of converting guns to cartridges that they were not designed for.
This video goes over a Guns and Ammo article of Mr LeGendre's various conversions which include the above .50 AE conversion but also an M1 conversion in .45 Winchester Magnum and an M-14 in .338 Win Mag. I am unable to find an archive of the magazine issue itself so this video is all I can provide (If anyone has an archive of the issue the article is featured in, let me know and I will edit this post to include it). LeGendre claims to have made a notable amount of sales to Alaskan hunting guides and bush pilots and that his guns were in use with "several ultra elite military groups". Jeff Cooper praised the guns, saying that they "Outclassed all personal small arms in use by armies of the world today" (?)
The uploader of the video also has a habit of converting guns to cartridges they were no designed for, having converted both a Mosin Nagant and an AK to .44 Magnum
Pump Action Glock 17, the weight of the pump mechanism plus a suppressor with the Nielsen device removed ensures the slide doesn't budge, forward pressure on the pump when not actuating would add further insurance
A few days ago I watched a portion of the 2009 Michael Mann Film "Public Enemies" starring Johnny Depp
The Movie is based on the Life, Times and Crimes of John Dillinger and his gang. Both in the movie and in history Dillinger utilized a "Baby Machinegun" full auto conversion 1911 in .38 Super made by Texas based gunsmith Hyman S. Lehman.
In the face of ever increasing criminal utilization of full auto glocks, it really made me think, The more things change the more things stay the same
While this Glock was not seized from a criminal (It to my knowledge belongs to some geriatric whose blog I discovered while researching for this post that I cannot be assed to find again) I still think the point stands.
Lastly we have some patent drawings for a french "Arm Gun" that as far as anyone can tell never entered production. The Delacre Modele 1936
The design differs dramatically from the Fitelite as it does not even have a hinging top cover.
MGI which I featured heavily in my last post was responsible for the marketing
What is even more interesting (and this is pointed out in the article linked above) is that the BRS-MOD-1 is not a wholly original concept, in fact it dates back many decades to the time of Eugene Stoner himself. In the late 1980's/Early 1990's a man named Johnathan Arthur Ciener offered either pre-made conversions of belt fed AR uppers and conversion services for standard guns
SAR Article on the Ciener belt fed guns with again a great many images detailing the operating mechanism and modifications made to the gun.
As there is not a traditional pawl mechanism, the bolt carrier is responsible for actuating the belt feed. A similar mechanism is utilized in the BRS
The Valkyrie gun is merely an improvement of the Ciener which in itself is a modification of a prototype Belt Fed AR-10.
Video on the operation of the Ceiner gun
OSINT Researcher War Noir posted an interesting picture of a DP-27 LMG with either a Night vision or Thermal Optic and a reversed flash hider in use by Ukranian combatants
Next we have an interesting rifle that led me down a rabbit hole. An M1 Carbine chambered in .50
It turns out that Mr. LeGendre had a habit of converting guns to cartridges that they were not designed for.
This video goes over a Guns and Ammo article of Mr LeGendre's various conversions which include the above .50 AE conversion but also an M1 conversion in .45 Winchester Magnum and an M-14 in .338 Win Mag. I am unable to find an archive of the magazine issue itself so this video is all I can provide (If anyone has an archive of the issue the article is featured in, let me know and I will edit this post to include it). LeGendre claims to have made a notable amount of sales to Alaskan hunting guides and bush pilots and that his guns were in use with "several ultra elite military groups". Jeff Cooper praised the guns, saying that they "Outclassed all personal small arms in use by armies of the world today" (?)
The uploader of the video also has a habit of converting guns to cartridges they were no designed for, having converted both a Mosin Nagant and an AK to .44 Magnum
Pump Action Glock 17, the weight of the pump mechanism plus a suppressor with the Nielsen device removed ensures the slide doesn't budge, forward pressure on the pump when not actuating would add further insurance
A few days ago I watched a portion of the 2009 Michael Mann Film "Public Enemies" starring Johnny Depp
The Movie is based on the Life, Times and Crimes of John Dillinger and his gang. Both in the movie and in history Dillinger utilized a "Baby Machinegun" full auto conversion 1911 in .38 Super made by Texas based gunsmith Hyman S. Lehman.
In the face of ever increasing criminal utilization of full auto glocks, it really made me think, The more things change the more things stay the same
While this Glock was not seized from a criminal (It to my knowledge belongs to some geriatric whose blog I discovered while researching for this post that I cannot be assed to find again) I still think the point stands.
Lastly we have some patent drawings for a french "Arm Gun" that as far as anyone can tell never entered production. The Delacre Modele 1936
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What's your budget?
@AGPinochet
It didn't take those fucking fascists long to delete the video of that one guy's 3D printed flywheel-delayed rifle. That, I'd really like to see.
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ChampFantana
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'Bout Tree Fiddy or so.What's your budget?
@AGPinochet
It didn't take those fucking fascists long to delete the video of that one guy's 3D printed flywheel-delayed rifle. That, I'd really like to see.
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You take that back right now!
Was there any one thing that pushed you to purchase that pistol? I'm not asking you to justify your purchase, I'm simply curious.
This one was actually quite interesting. Thank you for putting it together.
CZ P-10 line (I recommend the C). Or a used S&W M&P Compact, the 4" model. I personally think the current production models are the best striker fired, polymer-framed pistols being made. There's a shit ton of them floating around that have been carried a lot and fired rarely, so they get traded in.
For years I'd carry a Shield if it was just me leaving and I was planning on a quick trip somewhere. As such, I can understand why one would want a small, light weapon. With how much better I can perform with the 4" M&P, that's as small as I'll go anymore.
If you want a second option on you, train, practice, and dress around it. Make it work for you, regardless of what anyone else thinks.
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I had turned 21 not that long before, and was looking to make my first handgun purchase (this was close to 20 years ago.). I wanted a double-stack .45, don't like the grip safety on 1911s and couldn't afford an H&K, so Glock is what I ended up with.
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I dunno, if you care about having the Glock ergos and just want smaller get a G27 or whatever the subcomp 45ACP Glock baby is. If the G27 is too thick, they have a single stack one (the 43 or whatever it is, but not in 45 manstopper caliber tho I don't think)
What's your issue with the G21? Why do you feel like you want something smaller?
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ChampFantana
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The Glock ergos don't really bother me, but I don't think they make good subcompacts. Even the single stacks are bricks that print like crazy.
I think I want something smaller as both a backup to the 21, and to carry when concealing a full-size duty pistol isn't feasible.
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Sig 365? It's relatively small/thin and rounded, so not as bricklike as the Glock
Honestly man I dunno, you're carrying a gun at the end of the day. The smaller guns will print less than your G21. If you don't want them to print at all, you're gonna have to zap carry or just get really really fat.
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Ten years ago I would have told you that a 12 gauge shotgun with #1 buck or greater and a good revolver is all you need for home defense. The situation in America is rapidly deteriorating.
Ever since the Summer of Love there has been a massive increase in ‘mob criminality’ and I don’t mean the Mafia. In fact, gangs traditionally operate in small groups, often having just one guy, perhaps the one who hasn’t been in prison yet, do things like drug deals, thefts, and assassinations. The mob criminality is far worse for the resident or businessman, and reminds me of the type of crime you see in places like South Africa.
Probably the most stereotypical self-defense situation is a guy breaking into your house when he thinks you’re not home. Or the store robbery by a guy with a pistol he doesn’t know how to use. Maybe there are a few guys at the most, and of these only one or two might have a seriously deadly weapon (i.e. a gun). As long as you’re not in a gang and not doing some other shady shit, like dealing drugs, you would think this as about as bad it gets, and all you really need is that shotgun and the revolver for backup.
But like I said, that’s what I thought ten years ago.
Now we are in a world where criminals have figured out that if you do something in a large enough group, no consequences will come to anyone. This is demonstrated by the typical George Floyd riot, a chance to loot and kill without any repercussions under the guise of ‘protest’. Of course, this has all been developing long before George Floyd, but I hadn’t given it much thought.
What’s frightening is that, now with the ‘police reform’ movement coupled with leftwing DAs, the guise of protest is not even needed. A group of criminals can assemble and raid anywhere without consequence. We are mostly seeing this happen at malls, but it can happen anywhere, and it’s only a matter of time before someone’s home is raided in this manner.
This is the era of mob criminality, and it’s more important than ever that the unconstitutional NFA be eliminated and Americans be allowed to arm themselves appropriately in order to defend their land and their lives. At the very least, a high-capacity semi-automatic rifle is required for any home or business defense outfit.
Ever since the Summer of Love there has been a massive increase in ‘mob criminality’ and I don’t mean the Mafia. In fact, gangs traditionally operate in small groups, often having just one guy, perhaps the one who hasn’t been in prison yet, do things like drug deals, thefts, and assassinations. The mob criminality is far worse for the resident or businessman, and reminds me of the type of crime you see in places like South Africa.
Probably the most stereotypical self-defense situation is a guy breaking into your house when he thinks you’re not home. Or the store robbery by a guy with a pistol he doesn’t know how to use. Maybe there are a few guys at the most, and of these only one or two might have a seriously deadly weapon (i.e. a gun). As long as you’re not in a gang and not doing some other shady shit, like dealing drugs, you would think this as about as bad it gets, and all you really need is that shotgun and the revolver for backup.
But like I said, that’s what I thought ten years ago.
Now we are in a world where criminals have figured out that if you do something in a large enough group, no consequences will come to anyone. This is demonstrated by the typical George Floyd riot, a chance to loot and kill without any repercussions under the guise of ‘protest’. Of course, this has all been developing long before George Floyd, but I hadn’t given it much thought.
What’s frightening is that, now with the ‘police reform’ movement coupled with leftwing DAs, the guise of protest is not even needed. A group of criminals can assemble and raid anywhere without consequence. We are mostly seeing this happen at malls, but it can happen anywhere, and it’s only a matter of time before someone’s home is raided in this manner.
This is the era of mob criminality, and it’s more important than ever that the unconstitutional NFA be eliminated and Americans be allowed to arm themselves appropriately in order to defend their land and their lives. At the very least, a high-capacity semi-automatic rifle is required for any home or business defense outfit.
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The biggest thing that has alarmed me in the last 6 or 7 years is seeing crime going from opportunistic (Give me your purse, not interested in hurting you) to sadistic (I'm going to take your purse, and I'm going to beat you to a pulp, even though this makes me more likely to get caught). Agree that when mob mentality hits, you might be wishing you had a thirty round mag. Pigs have already shown they will sit back and watch innocent people's lives ruined, so you have to be responsible for yourself.
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I concur with @Dean Pentel in regards to the CZ, and I can also recommend the Walther CCP; especially if you can find either for a decent price secondhand.
Speaking of which... I've been noticing that in the used-gun market & pawn shops, finding used pistols with the "CZ" prefix has been leading to more pricey hang-tags, regardless of model & condition. The same goes for anything Walther; aside from basic quality, people are evidently paying (and asking) more for the CZ & Walther name, although not nearly as much as HK & Beretta.