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George Lucas said:
The CAGuns subreddit is still cooming over the addition of the M17/18, P320 and P365 to the CA handgun roster. They act like it’s a blessing to have neutered, 10-round mag limited bastardizations of perfectly standard, legal handguns allowed to them by the State of California. I’m really awfully tired of the bootlicking mindset of the CA gun community. The folks on Calguns are at least much less insufferable, but the young people are surprised to find out that other states don’t even ask for ID when you walk in to refill on ammo or buy accessories.
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Geez, how did SIG pull that off?

CA gun people really get me going with their sniveling. "Oh well that _would_ work but I'm in a place where we can't have <thing being discussed>." Fucking escape. Go. I got out, so can you.
 
HumptiDouji said:
Can only agree, they just feel perfect in your hand. I also find I like revolvers in general with barrels around the 4" range.
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Some day I'd like to get a Joker gun for funsies though.
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I shot one of these a few years ago. Shit's great.
Mikoyan said:
Geez, how did SIG pull that off?

CA gun people really get me going with their sniveling. "Oh well that _would_ work but I'm in a place where we can't have <thing being discussed>." Fucking escape. Go. I got out, so can you.
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Idk, I can sympathize with people like that. It's where you're from, it's hard to leave your home behind. You want to stay and fight the good fight, and you bullshit yourself that things could change.

To be fair, with the current Supreme Court, a lot of Cali bullshit might get tossed out.

I'm from a state that's shit on guns. Not Cali shit, mind you (nowhere is, except maybe NY), but still.

Only my state's legislators being morons, incapable of writing effective gun grabber laws, keeps us from being as bad as Cali or NY.

Like for example, there's a mag limit here, except you can still own said mags. You just can't purchase or transfer them in the state. So I can go down to VA, buy mags, and legally walk them over the border.
 
Mikoyan said:
Geez, how did SIG pull that off?

CA gun people really get me going with their sniveling. "Oh well that _would_ work but I'm in a place where we can't have <thing being discussed>." Fucking escape. Go. I got out, so can you.
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Well, the biggest thing is the microstamping requirement which is all but completely dead at this point. But there is still a lot of bullshit. For one, it’s SIG, they have a lot of pull. These SIGs have a magazine disconnect: the gun cannot fire without a magazine in place. Arguably critical for a self-defense gun, and so these guns are only good for target practice.

That said, the magazine disconnect can be removed and it’s completely legal to do so. I’m not sure if there are any other CA-specific modifications.
 
Guntuber Bargainbintactician (who is underappreciated in my opinion) has put out a video regarding an upcoming AR-15 bullpup conversion called The Triad by A3 Tactical for Bufferless AR compatible uppers namely the Foxtrot Mike FM-15, Brownells BRN-180, PSA Jakl and Matador Arms MAT-9. Each different upper will have a dedicated factory option, but it will be possible with a conversion kit from A3 to make one chassis work with a different upper(s). There will be both Rifle and Pistol options available.
The design is a polymer clamshell that encases the lower and uses a unique style of adjustable transfer mechanism that was found to be superior to conventional designs. Looks way better than the one from Reap Weapons System
Gaze upon the compactness (Short Jakl pictured)
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List of conversions
FM-15 to BRN-180
FM-15 to Jakl 8.5
FM-15 to Jakl 10.5
BRN-180 to FM-15
BRN-180 to Jakl 8.5
BRN-180 to Jakl 10.5
Jakl to BRN-180
Jakl to FM-15
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I have discovered a shotgun with a unique action, the Darne Sliding Breach created by Frenchman Regis Darne in 1897 and were apparently produced until 1965. The actuation process is kind of like that of a straight pull rifle, there are two subvariants of the operating mechanism, the "small key" and the "big key" the former being slower to operate due to need to pull the key rearwards and then pull the bolt rearwards, while the latter has the bolt moving along with the key's movement (although rapidity of motion makes the difference negligible). Apparently another manufacturer, Charlin, produced a similar gun.

An article from Gun Digest on the guns

Charlin also at one point also made a "Superfix" model, which was an over under
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Next we have several things from a company that doesn't even have a website, Wraithworks.
They have developed a non reciprocating charging handle and optic mount for the MAC-10
Next we have the CM-1 Carbon Max, a rifle that uses many standard AR compnennts but whose receivers are made out of Carbon Fiber.
The first 3 minutes of this video are dedicated to the rifle, but from then on also contain information on the next object of discussion in this post, the Warp-15.

The Warp-15 is based around a rebranded KP Arms KP-15 polymer lower receiver with a slabsided aluminum upper receiver, however Wraithworks is also working to create a clamshell polymer upper receiver to further reduce the weight of the system, for structural purposes, the barrel extension is housed in an aluminum trunnion.
The upper is incorporated into the 2nd and 5th rifles in this photo. Also featured in the video is their WarScorp 9 AR-9 that feeds from CZ Scorpion magazines
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Lastly we have new videos from Bernard, the Australian Inventor of the Wildebeest Pistol.
 
AGPinochet said:
The Karenni Nationalities Defense Force (KNDF) is said to have developed a new rifle, a gas operated 5.56 rifle.
The model name is TZ23, the geographical origin is said to be Kayah state.
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Found a video of them shooting it, both on flat ranges and in the water.

I just want to know why the AR he's using has one of those retarded skull magwells.
 
George Lucas said:
The CAGuns subreddit is still cooming over the addition of the M17/18, P320 and P365 to the CA handgun roster. They act like it’s a blessing to have neutered, 10-round mag limited bastardizations of perfectly standard, legal handguns allowed to them by the State of California. I’m really awfully tired of the bootlicking mindset of the CA gun community. The folks on Calguns are at least much less insufferable, but the young people are surprised to find out that other states don’t even ask for ID when you walk in to refill on ammo or buy accessories.
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CAGuns is full of cuckolds that will "comply" with any bullshit pushed by Newsom and hated on Trump and Larry Elder during the recall.

Calguns is just afraid of getting raided by agents from the CA DOJ.

Mikoyan said:
Geez, how did SIG pull that off?

CA gun people really get me going with their sniveling. "Oh well that _would_ work but I'm in a place where we can't have <thing being discussed>." Fucking escape. Go. I got out, so can you.
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SIG probably found some loophole in the roster.

George Lucas said:
Well, the biggest thing is the microstamping requirement which is all but completely dead at this point. But there is still a lot of bullshit. For one, it’s SIG, they have a lot of pull. These SIGs have a magazine disconnect: the gun cannot fire without a magazine in place. Arguably critical for a self-defense gun, and so these guns are only good for target practice.

That said, the magazine disconnect can be removed and it’s completely legal to do so. I’m not sure if there are any other CA-specific modifications.
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Which is why I bought a 1911. Except the cocksucker niggerfaggot sheriff in my county doesn't allow 1911s for use on CCWs after the fact.

Franklin Armory sells an AR pistol that is bolt action style, only thing needed would be to change out the charging handle and buffer tube and BCG on that IIRC.

And featureless rifles have the old school swap out the fin for a grip with a simple allen key wrench from Home Depot.

Marvin said:
Idk, I can sympathize with people like that. It's where you're from, it's hard to leave your home behind. You want to stay and fight the good fight, and you bullshit yourself that things could change.

To be fair, with the current Supreme Court, a lot of Cali bullshit might get tossed out.

I'm from a state that's shit on guns. Not Cali shit, mind you (nowhere is, except maybe NY), but still.

Only my state's legislators being morons, incapable of writing effective gun grabber laws, keeps us from being as bad as Cali or NY.

Like for example, there's a mag limit here, except you can still own said mags. You just can't purchase or transfer them in the state. So I can go down to VA, buy mags, and legally walk them over the border.
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The general mood on all those forums is "you first" as if someone gets arrested, they on their own and their lives might get ruined by the state if they try to resist.
 
AGPinochet said:
I have discovered a shotgun with a unique action, the Darne Sliding Breach created by Frenchman Regis Darne in 1897 and were apparently produced until 1965.
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Dude, you find some cool stuff to post.

This one reminds a little tiny bit of a shotgun I want but really should not buy. It's not a bad thing to own, per se, rather I don't need it and to purchase one would be financially irresponsible. But fuck, something about a coach gun is just cool.
 
So how does one set a 50 yard zero on an A2 detachable carry handle?

I see some videos saying just move it to the "Z" and then back to 6/3.

Or some using an Allen key to fuck around with the drum.

Or moving it to some sort of 6/3 - 4 position.

And is a 50 meter/200 meter zero going to be the same deal as a 50 yard/200 yard zero?
 
MrJokerRager said:
So how does one set a 50 yard zero on an A2 detachable carry handle?

And is a 50 meter/200 meter zero going to be the same deal as a 50 yard/200 yard zero?
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determine your zero range (either 25 meters or 36 yards). the fixed carry handle was designed originally to use yard measurements but the detachable was always metric. it is important to note that a zero is determined by bullet weight, muzzle velocity, and barrel length (sight radius). the detachable carry handle has 1/2 MOA adjustments (not radians). for the below, i'm drawing on my experience in the US Army, but the USMC has their own method for rifles that is extremely good, although uses inch measurements and not metric. additionally i am assuming you are using standard M855 ammunition.

if you have a carbine (14.5" or 16" barrel): zero using a 25 meter target with the 6/3 setting for a 25-300 meter zero. each marking will correspond to the meter distance from the target in hundreds of meters. a 62gr bullet with the 25-300 meter zero has a rise of between 2.5-5 centimeters and a drop of slightly over 13 centimeters at 300 meters distance. this is considered sufficient for most general combat.

if you have a rifle (20" barrel): zero using a 30 meter target with the 6/3 setting for a 300 meter zero. alternately you can zero using a 25 meter target and add 2 "clicks" of elevation clockwise (this is the "z" setting). it is technically more accurate to use a 30 meter target though. a 62gr bullet should achieve about 2-3cm of rise and slightly less than 12 centimeters of drop at 350 meters distance to the target.

if you have a dissipator (18" barrel): use the rifle method but use +1 click instead of +2. expect ~14 cm of drop at 350.

once you are done and have verified your zero at 25 meters, set the drum to 6/3 and use the small aperture and adjust elevation as needed. you can also use the larger aperture for 0-200 meters, but this is not a "zero" per se. realistically larger aperture will vary from 44 meter "zero" to 47 meter "zero" but M855 is pretty flat from about 50 to 185 meters and is sufficient for most combat at close range or at low light.

also a zero at the actual distance you want to zero at (example 300 meters) is best done and tested at that actual distance. the zeroing method above uses geometry to zero at shorter ranges.

for other zero methods including a 50 meter zero, there is the Santose Improved Battle Zero (attached), and the Revised IBZ method: https://www.everydaymarksman.co/equipment/ribz-sight-setting/

both work, however i'm an old hand and stick with what i already know. the IBZ is what many police carbines are set to use via POST and FLETC, et c.
 

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AGPinochet said:
I have discovered a shotgun with a unique action
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Supplemental information regarding the different models and grades of the Darne guns
Another Unique Darne action, the rotary breech.
AGPinochet said:
here has been a new development from the escalating insurgency in Myanmar (you might know it as Burma)
The Karenni Nationalities Defense Force (KNDF) is said to have developed a new rifle, a gas operated 5.56 rifle.
The model name is TZ23, the geographical origin is said to be Kayah state.
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MrB said:
Found a video of them shooting it, both on flat ranges and in the water.
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In a reddit thread I found some interesting information and another photo.
User "thekingminn" states that at the start of the shooting video, the pricing of the rifle is discussed. Minn says that the video's speaker says that to construct one rifle it costs 5-6M Kyats, or about $2k. Whereas a smuggled M16 from Thailand costs about 20M Kyats, or $6500. Minn also says that in the video it is stated the rifle was designed to ensure functionality with in country made ammunition, which has hard primers.
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The photo I found was included in a post along with the other three photos and is implied to be of a large quanity of TZ23 rifles, sadly it was taken by a potato quality camera so this cannot be confirmed. However assuming that they are all in fact TZ23's and that all the rifles in the other 3 photos are featured within it, the image would by my count 88 TZ23's, indicating that the cost savings are probably leading to a massive ramp up in arms acquisition.
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TURKIYE back when it was Turkey made a "dedicated" (it's not a pistol slide in a chassis but a ground up design) B&T USW Clone but with full auto.
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This lead me to discover a full auto USW here in America that is also comped (and maybe ported? he's using a 19c slide but a Radian barrel so no ports unless he did some conversion work). American PM-63 RAK. The gun was converted to have a G18 full auto selector, shaved down for clearance purposes.

Breaking news, Brazilians can into steel case BUT with boxer primers!

Custom guns of the Australian SAS During the Vietnam War, Half Life did not invent the SMG+UBGL combo.
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Also of the Australian SAS, Chopped FAL with Owen gun foregrip
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From the Australian War Memorial Website, a Shortened M16 with M203 and Singlepoint Occluded Eye Gunsight, (proto-red dot, the tube was not see through but contained a red fiber against a black background), the stock is also, interesting. Also featured is I believe an XM177E2 with XM148 UBGL and two cut down M79 "Pirate Guns"
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More modified FAL's, the difference in placement for the foregrips suggests to me a deeper level of fitting to the shooter, as if an armorer sat down with individual shooters to determine their requirements. Note the 30 rounders
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Matthew Moss of Hisorical Firearms, The Armorer's Bench and occasionally TFB has brought to my attention an Australian SAS training film in which Singlepoint OEG's are featured, first at 0:50, then at 1:20, 1:29, 3:00

Full size FAL with Front grip and 30 round mag
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This isn't a gun, but I've already horrified all my buddies I was in with and this is closest thread. I know there are guys here who will get a reaction. For context, I bought something off of ebay and this is what it came in.

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Part of me wants to drive across the country, take a shit in this box, and set it on fire on the guy's front porch. It was like walking into a gas station and seeing a Rip It. It's been a long time since I've had such a strong response to anything deployment related. The only thing that comes to mind was seeing trash on the highway and thinking it was an IED and swerving across lanes to avoid it almost 15 years ago.
 
Marijuana becoming socially acceptable and legalized is one of the greatest tragedies of the last decade. So many people that had potential or even could have just been normal Joes with a simple life being turned into low IQ pothead losers.
 
Is a Glock model 40 with one of those glow in the dark SeeAll sights an adequate defense against more than two large aggressive nocturnal canines?
 
Club Sandwich said:
they work decently and are durable and easy to pick up and use at a glance but the hard angles can catch on some cloth if you pocket carry.
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Yeah the sight is pretty chunky but the gun is too big to conceal anyway so I have it in a holster. The Glock is my home/yard defense pistol and then the closest thing I have to a reliable pocket pistol is the tokarev.
 
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