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Gronk_Destroyer of Homos said:
He can Pepper his Angus, because my response is "go fuck yourself."

My gas-operated rifle hasn't killed anyone or even so much as been aimed at anyone.

Try a green dot, like a Holosun 407K-GR. I love it, it makes shooting a handgun so much easier and fun.
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its still ugly so its a no go. I shoot with a target focus and a fiber optic front sight, so i am already doing what most people say are good about dots.

but really its because they are ugly ugly ugly. All that size feels out of place on top of the slide/frame, and the aesthetic styling of small red dots are abominable. especially closed emitters. unnecessary serrations in weird shapes, useless greebles everywhere. since the GWOT the aesthetics of firearms have been completely neglected due to tactical trainer vet bro hypebeast marketing and chasing that all mighty profit margin.

Look at the 1911, or the highpower, or even the first generation of polymer wonder 9s like the USP and friends. the guns looked good. they were sleek. now its all went to shit. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
 
Mrs basso said I should start finishing the piles of parts kits I have given up on, forgotten about,or didn't want to do.

I smiled and nodded and now I'm hunting for a G3 because sadly our of everything I own I don't have a G3/cetme/FN fal and that's pretty embarrassing.

Also definitely need another safe, so need to make mind up if another quality one to live inside or a meh that goes in garage with rest of my project/entry level stuff.
 
Bassomatic said:
Mrs basso said I should start finishing the piles of parts kits I have given up on, forgotten about,or didn't want to do.

I smiled and nodded and now I'm hunting for a G3 because sadly our of everything I own I don't have a G3/cetme/FN fal and that's pretty embarrassing.

Also definitely need another safe, so need to make mind up if another quality one to live inside or a meh that goes in garage with rest of my project/entry level stuff.
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I gave up on safes. they weigh a shit ton and none of the ones that you can actually ship actually provide any real protection against a determined burglar. I've taken to hanging my guns on wooden racks.
I'm set to inherit my grandparents house (in many many years hopefully) and plan to convert their recording studio room into a gun/safe room. its an interior room and i plan to put in a metal external door.
 
Romulus augustulus said:
I gave up on safes. they weigh a shit ton and none of the ones that you can actually ship actually provide any real protection against a determined burglar. I've taken to hanging my guns on wooden racks.
I'm set to inherit my grandparents house (in many many years hopefully) and plan to convert their recording studio room into a gun/safe room. its an interior room and i plan to put in a metal external door.
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I happen to be something of a physical security expert. Mostly cars but, I install and open safes more than anyone else I know. A safe like any other security device creates a time barrier between your goods and would be thieves. Even a vault in Fort Knox can be opened by some guy with power tools if you give him 10 years to do it. I want anyone who tries to steal my shit to spend days trying to break into my vault/my gun safe. I want them to make noise like they are tearing apart the whole fucking house trying to get into my stuff. In addition there is a fire barrier as well with most gun safes, this also is a mechanism based on time, that is why safes are time rated for fire. If the safe provides 45 minutes of fire protection and the fire department is 10 mins away the safe has done it's job. The way I see it a good gun safe starts at around $500, you can't even get a new Ruger Mark4 for that price anymore, it's worth the investment.
 
Romulus augustulus said:
I gave up on safes. they weigh a shit ton and none of the ones that you can actually ship actually provide any real protection against a determined burglar. I've taken to hanging my guns on wooden racks.
I'm set to inherit my grandparents house (in many many years hopefully) and plan to convert their recording studio room into a gun/safe room. its an interior room and i plan to put in a metal external door.
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I have a real safe for my pistols, and a steamer trunk with a padlock for my AR and ammo. At the very least, have a trigger lock on them to CYA, especially if you have any kids around.
 
Meat Target said:
I have a real safe for my pistols, and a steamer trunk with a padlock for my AR and ammo. At the very least, have a trigger lock on them to CYA, especially if you have any kids around.
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I keep a loaded handgun two feet from the head of my bed in an open soft case, with two extra mags.
 
HumptiDouji said:
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So is he just being a bullshitter, or does the law say nothing about other automatics?
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The actual text of the bill bans recoil-operated guns too, they're trying a new trick to fool people into passing a gun ban. It's going nowhere though, not that it would pass constitutional muster in a post-Heller world, with a court even more pro-gun than the one that ruled on Heller in the first place.
 
Bassomatic said:
Mrs basso said I should start finishing the piles of parts kits I have given up on, forgotten about,or didn't want to do.

I smiled and nodded and now I'm hunting for a G3 because sadly our of everything I own I don't have a G3/cetme/FN fal and that's pretty embarrassing.

Also definitely need another safe, so need to make mind up if another quality one to live inside or a meh that goes in garage with rest of my project/entry level stuff.
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You can find some assembled PTRs and stuff that people fucked up on gunbroker if you just need a base to use the parts kit on. Love the G3.
 
Experimental US Silent .30-06 Cartidge, XM-76, there was also a prototype XM-115 7.62x51 round but information on it is scarce. The XM-115 propelled a 110gr bullet at 800fps so I would expect 850-900fps for this larger cartidge
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Patent
Cross sectional drawing of XM-115, stitched together from several individual component drawings as apparently the original drawings were destroyed.
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"Silent Weapon System Alpha". American prototype silent rifle using captive piston ammunition
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PDF on cartridge development
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French captive piston cartridge, made by one Louis Debuilt
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Modified MAS-36 said to have been made to fire the cartridge
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Russian captive piston cartridge, 7.62x88, uses a hydraulic piston of ethyl alcohol to propel the projectile
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PDF on it

Griffin has taken a shot at Dead Air
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FAL in 7.92 Kurz, a homage to the FAL's predecessor, the Universal Carbine which was originally chambered for the cartridge.
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article discussing the gun and the history behind it

Chrome plated suppressed M3 Grease gun from a 1973 news report regarding firearm thefts, what's curious is that this is I believe the only suppressed but not integrally M3 I have ever seen
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Said to be a Croatian Soldier in Bosnia
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posting some photo's from the US civil war.

The only known photograph of a Confederate sniper with the famous Whitworth rifle. notice the scope mounted on the side of the rifle. the whitworth was extremely accurate. there are multiple reports of Confederate sharpshooters making hits with these rifles at 1,000 yards or more. under british testing the rifles would hold a 4 inch group at 500 yards and a 28 inch group at 1,100 yards.
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A Trench line at Fredericksburg:
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Women's Home guard unit armed with pikes and lances.
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Pikes and lances were issued by both sides, but were rarely used. Stonewall Jackson ordered 1,000 pikes for his stonewall brigade. during the battle of Valverde new mexico confederate cavalry sucessfully used lances to attack the union position, driving them from the territory of new mexico. this is the only use of the cavarly lance in combat in US history.
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A very rare example of a un-posed photo from the US civil war. Confederate troops in marching column are stopped on the road in Fredericksburg. photo taken from a second story window.
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This photo was taken from a distance of roughly one mile, from Union postions on the bank of the Rappahannock river. the soldiers are confederates in the city of Fredericksburg Virginia. The confederates destroyed all the bridges crossing the river which forced the Union to build pontoon bridges under fire. the battle was very costly. notice the fake cannon barrel sticking out of the window of the brick building.
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one of the pontoon bridges:
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Dean Pentel said:
Moving on to another topic, how do you all feel about recommended barrel break-in procedures for a new precision rifle? I've personally never followed them. Currently I only run 6.5 PRC and .300 PRC precision rifles. I'm definitely a good shooter, but nowhere near the serious PRS or benchrest guys so I can't tell if the rifles would exhibit better accuracy had I followed recommendations. I also only ever clean my chambers, the breechface, and the bolt raceways on those rifles.
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I take John Krieger's recommendation of just shoot the damn gun. Clean after every shot initially watching the copper fouling. The numbers and elaborate procedures are pure snake oil. There is a very old interview with him, we're talking late 90s iirc, where he explains elaborate break in procedures were created by a custom barrel maker to sell more barrels to competition shooters who shot some high pressure round. Create a 200 round break in procedure for a barrel that only lasts 1200 rounds and you can probably sell an extra barrel a year to these comp shooters. It gained it's own following and folklore like a lot of bs in the shooting world.

Krieger barrels break in and cleaning
 
S.C.U.D. said:
The actual text of the bill bans recoil-operated guns too, they're trying a new trick to fool people into passing a gun ban. It's going nowhere though, not that it would pass constitutional muster in a post-Heller world, with a court even more pro-gun than the one that ruled on Heller in the first place.
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And it would require all new gun designs to be approved by the Attorney General (the same one who has declared that Catholics, concerned parents, and normie conservatives are Enemies of the State).

They use the term "gas-operated" because graboids think learning new firearm terminology means they know more about people who know guns better than they ever will, as if it reverses their decades of embracing and spreading retarded fuddlore.
 
Pocket Dragoon said:
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Man Ruger is trying to see just how many.45-70 lever actions they can make 😄


Dean Pentel said:
Moving on to another topic, how do you all feel about recommended barrel break-in procedures for a new precision rifle? I've personally never followed them. Currently I only run 6.5 PRC and .300 PRC precision rifles. I'm definitely a good shooter, but nowhere near the serious PRS or benchrest guys so I can't tell if the rifles would exhibit better accuracy had I followed recommendations. I also only ever clean my chambers, the breechface, and the bolt raceways on those rifles.
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Break in is technically done at the factory. Here's what I was told to do by a competitive shooter who was on a USAF marksmanship team.

Clean the shipping oil and grease out of the rifle. Put some ballistol or similar down the barrel, then swap with a dry patch.

Then.... Shoot the rifle 5-10 times to sight it in

Clean the barrel with a bore cleaner, then ballistol/similar then lastly some 90% isopropyl alcohol.

A bore snake is a ok.

Swab the bite with a dry patch and MAYBE put one more with a bit of oil down it then one last dry patch

You're done. Barrel is all broken in.

Clean the barrel every 50-100 rounds or so it as often as you like. Just maker sure to remove moisture from it.

Dudes that clean the barrel after each shot for the first 10-50 sounds are..... Kinda insane.

As for the rest of the rifle, oil exposed metal and grease/oil the moving parts as needed. For a house cat of a rifle that's probably 1-2x a year.

For a hard use outdoor rifle..... 4-6x a year.

Beyond that, just keep it clean and don't put it away wet and your rifle wil last a hundred years.
 
Russian Precision Rifle manufacturers, Lobaev Arms, seem to have copied the Sig Bimetal case design and employed it in the creation of .375 CheyTac cartridges. Now while I do not read Russian the only number that I can find that might be representative of the velocity of the projectile is 900 which when converting from meters to feet is 2952, which is standard for the cartridge. So they don't appear to have massively jacked up the pressure, leading me puzzled as to why they made this decision.
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The National Institute of Justice (NIJ) have finally after many years (I remember people complaining about them taking forever in 2019) released their new standard for body armor rating, "0101.07".

I have found a thread on a Saiga-12 forum by one Tony Rumore. Who is Tony Rumore? The guy behind Tromix. Who/What is Tromix? Tromix is the company that designed the .458 SOCOM, they've also made a couple other Big bore AR wild cats and some other cool things (you ever see that over under double barrel AR machinegun? Tromix made that)
Anyway back in 2008 Mr. Rumore decided to post all the cool prototypes and one offs his company had made over the last 18 years. There is however a problem, there are too many images for me to post here and they all have photobucket watermarks.
The thread contains everything from Suppressed Thompson Center Break actions, a mosin in .500 S&W, Cut down everything and more.
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An unwatermarked duplicate photo of an integrally suppressed Saiga-12.
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The thread also brought to my attention the existence of two cartridges I had never heard of before, .338x39 (7.62x39 necked up) and 10mm Magnum (it is what it sounds like)
Mr. Rumore also has a youtube channel that he has started to upload to, which also features some unique guns


Stockless M2 carbine with front grip and elaborate woodworking
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Welrod Prototype
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A unique SMG held at the British National Firearms Centre, Acquired sometime in 1956. The gun incorporates a Carcano buttstock, SMLE Buttplate, Thompson barrel and magazine and a Martini rear sight
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SEAL in Vietnam with a stockless M60 with angled foregrip, Zenitco of Russia would later go on to make such designs prominent in the zeitgeist of the western world
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The Innogun Hybrid
The Top barrel acts as a break action and can be had in 12G or a variety of rifle cartridges, the bottom barrel is a magazine fed pump action that can be had in standard rifle cartridges.
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Homemade MAC in .38 Super (the cartridges aren't actually huge it's a trick of the camera.
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AGPinochet said:
The National Institute of Justice (NIJ) have finally after many years (I remember people complaining about them taking forever in 2019) released their new standard for body armor rating, "0101.07".
https://nij.ojp.gov/ballistic-resistance-body-armor-nij-standard-010107
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Very very cool.

Looks like a split between Handgun and Rifle levels of protection and updated backface deformation requirements/specs.

So looks like they essentially made the old "NIJ Lvl 111+" into the new RF2 standard.

Looks like an overdue update
 
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