Mega Rad Gun Thread

[Dean Pentel]

Up to a 100 yards for now.

A 16 or 20 inch AR.

Haven't decided which one to use.

It'll work just fine. I've heard its price belies its performance. If it's anything like the 2 LPVOs that I run (Atibal X and Eotech Vudu) it'll have some annoying issues up at/near max magnification.

Don't let it bother you enough to not train with your setup. I've personally seen guys kill people and small game out to 400m reliably with setups like this. As I've said before, training and practice can make one deadly with a huge variety of weapons.

If you're new to the setup and shooting with magnified optics, I can't recommend highly enough that you do your homework and/or ask experienced shooters for help before you send rounds downrange.

 

[Club Sandwich]

Sig Sauer Tango MSR LVPO with 1-6x zoom

extremely good value for the cash wanted, a bit bulky and has bullshit weird lens covers that are garbage and you're better off getting a bikini cover. slight distortion once you get close to 6x, sweet spot for me is either 3.5x or 5.5x, and the lowest usable is around 1.2x. the mount is good too. the whole thing is sort of heavy, but the glass is excellent (mostly potluck of American, German, or Bulgarian glass lenses) and the whole thing is made in USA with the scope itself mostly manufactured and assembled in Oregon. mounts are from some other company and rebranded for SIG, same like the lens cover, cleaning cloth, and other accessories.

using a SIG Tango 6T for mountain goats on my 300 ultra mag and it's been a champ, helping me hit those dusk shots at 800 meters rain, snow, or shine. not a fan of the weird color mismatch from scope body to mount, but meh, it works. it doesn't say in the manual, but the torque for the mount is 30in-lbs (35 max). it competes well against the Viper PST. be aware that the SLX Nova is around and might also be a banger if you need something lighter than the MSR.

consider avoiding an LPVO entirely and going with fixed magnification if the variable magnification isn't useful or if you're a bit new to using them since they aren't exactly the same as the traditional 3-9x hunting scopes you find everywhere.

 

[WelperHelper99]

i bet they were. i really only did training with the M60 "pig", and was on an M60D on some light vehicles sometimes. i put hands on an M60E3 for a couple of months in the sandbox and it was great, the E4 even better, but it wasn't super common outside of some Navy groups i worked with. there's a few improvements on top of that as well iirc. the M240B more or less replaced the M60 everywhere after the 80's.

The M60 is absolutely sexy and if I ever get to shoot one like at Vegas I will, I don't care what it costs. Funny enough they do make semi auto versions

Man Ruger is trying to see just how many.45-70 lever actions they can make

We need more 45-70 guns in the world in general

Up to a 100 yards for now.

A 16 or 20 inch AR.

Haven't decided which one to use.

Go classic, go 20 inch A1 configuration

 

[Bogliacci]

Gonna see how the swampfox trihawk is, I see mostly just good things about it without many cons aside from eye relief.

 

[DocAwe]

The M60 is absolutely sexy and if I ever get to shoot one like at Vegas I will, I don't care what it costs. Funny enough they do make semi auto versions

We need more 45-70 guns in the world in general

Go classic, go 20 inch A1 configuration

I vote hybrid!

 

[WelperHelper99]

I vote hybrid!
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That is absolutely blursed. I love it. I want one

 

[Dean Pentel]

I'm happy that PWS is bringing back their 18" barreled uppers in both Mod 1 and 2 variants. I've been a big fan of their long-stroke piston rifles for a few years now. It's not objectively better than DI rifles but I still typically prefer that operating system, especially if running a suppressor.

My very first PWS upper was an 18" one. When it blew a hole in the piston tube just aft of the gas adjustment knob, PWS offered to replace the whole upper but said it'd have to be 16" since they would never produce an 18" model again. I've already ordered one and am going to use it for a scoped carbine I'll run out to 400m. Actually it'll probably be 300m and in more often than not. I can't afford much Mk262 and have a lot more M193 rounds to run.

 

[Smoke Manmuscle]

Ammo prices go up
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I can’t get the attachment to open but if this is about Vista raising prices it’s interesting but not surprising, inflation is hitting everyone. I do wonder how much of it is related to them getting bought.

As an interesting note, once they finish getting bought by the Czechs there will only be 2 major US owned ammunition companies, Hornady and Winchester.

 

[AGPinochet]

The site is being really fucky regarding image uploads so I guess this post is being cut short today, hopefully I can actually post it.

If all goes well I will have re-written this post properly, unimpeded by technical issues, expanded upon the original and then have proceeded to delete the original post which I am replying to.

Ammo prices go up


SVDS with 20 round magazine in Idlib, Syria.


Yugoslavian SSU Underwater handgun, used cartridges that function like captive piston ammunition.


A De Lisle style Enfield conversion but in 7.62x39


Folding .22 rifle based on the Black Lotus Coalition Harlot Derringer, uses a 10/22 barrel

I have found an interesting thread regarding the Folded ammunition designs of Andrew J. Grandy
https://archive.ph/ISx9P

An Individual who i believe to be a Montagnard (Referred to a "Yards" by SOG personnel, they were great fighters but prone to primitive antics such as eating anything that moved, shaking down their American teammates for money, food, watches and anything else they could get out of them and spray painting dogs various colors) attached to MACV-SOG during the Vietnam war. His XM177E2 is equipped with a White Phosphorous Rifle Grenade, Nick Brokhausen notes in his book, We Few, that Yards were not issued WP grenades because they lacked the strength to throw the 27oz grenades a safe distance. This is the only photo I personally have seen of an XM177E2 with an equipped rifle grenade, despite one of the changes from the E1 to the E2 being the addition of a grenade ring.


Iron Curtain Customs hinged and railed Galil topcover (ala AKS-74u)


If you showed this picture to Eugene Stoner in say, 1970, he would shit when he saw the receiver.


Another De Lisle style rifle, this time in .375 raptor, by Cotton Branch customs


Enfield America Emcom 45, like a TEC-9 but all metal.

 

[Bassomatic]

I gave up on safes. they weigh a shit ton and none of the ones that you can actually ship actually provide any real protection against a determined burglar. I've taken to hanging my guns on wooden racks.
I'm set to inherit my grandparents house (in many many years hopefully) and plan to convert their recording studio room into a gun/safe room. its an interior room and i plan to put in a metal external door.

I live in a good area and keep my firearm ownership quiet over all.

As mentioned safes but time. Also fire protection. My home is well made and some updates but it's from 70s wiring and shit scares me more than Tyrone wanting a Lee Enfield or 6.

I'd like to do some display at some point but getting the lift in my garage is next.

While I'm not really worried about fire either I just mentioned that because I do have pistol safes stuffed full of powder instead of letting it sit out. No one's said not to do it... Am I wrong?

Lastly with safes, as my God kids get older past toddling I know I and their folks would know that stuffs locked up. It's not like a 6 year old can even pick up my semi auto Bren but, happy to tuck stuff away if it gives the parents peace of mind as well as a fire insurance and it's also an easy way to sort things by action size era etc.

 

[The Dude]

Been a minute since I posted in this thread. Some updates on my collection:

STILL waiting for my Auto Mag to be built. (2 1/2 years now)

Bought one of the 20rnd drums for my FosTech Origin 12.

Bought a Staccato P along with a custom holster and mag carrier for it. Saving up for one of the new Trijicon enclosed red dots and a shoulder holster for it.

Bought a set of handmade Buffalo bone grips for my Dan Wesson Specialist. I usually carry it in a shoulder rig and the G10 VZ grips I originally had on it would snag and pull on my shirt and jacket because of how aggressive the stippling is on them.

My father in law passed away and I inherited a Walther P1/P38 and Stoeger .22lr Luger that I had bought for him early in my marriage.

 

[56 others]

Got my suppressor after 199 days. Friends are getting 180s now. Guess theyre catching up on the backlog.

 

[Romulus augustulus]

I live in a good area and keep my firearm ownership quiet over all.

As mentioned safes but time. Also fire protection. My home is well made and some updates but it's from 70s wiring and shit scares me more than Tyrone wanting a Lee Enfield or 6.

I'd like to do some display at some point but getting the lift in my garage is next.

While I'm not really worried about fire either I just mentioned that because I do have pistol safes stuffed full of powder instead of letting it sit out. No one's said not to do it... Am I wrong?

Lastly with safes, as my God kids get older past toddling I know I and their folks would know that stuffs locked up. It's not like a 6 year old can even pick up my semi auto Bren but, happy to tuck stuff away if it gives the parents peace of mind as well as a fire insurance and it's also an easy way to sort things by action size era etc.

I too live in a safe area. Fire worries me too but in the time it would take the fire dept to get to my house and put out the fire the safe would be done for anyway.

I have ~20 pounds of blackpowder on a shelf in my living room. as good a place as any as far as i am concerned.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

Been a minute since I posted in this thread. Some updates on my collection:

STILL waiting for my Auto Mag to be built. (2 1/2 years now)

Wait... wut? Paid for & everything?

Bought one of the 20rnd drums for my FosTech Origin 12.

Bought a Staccato P along with a custom holster and mag carrier for it. Saving up for one of the new Trijicon enclosed red dots and a shoulder holster for it.

How much are you willing to spend on a shoulder rig?

Bought a set of handmade Buffalo bone grips for my Dan Wesson Specialist. I usually carry it in a shoulder rig and the G10 VZ grips I originally had on it would snag and pull on my shirt and jacket because of how aggressive the stippling is on them.

This thread is worthless without pics.

My father in law passed away and I inherited a Walther P1/P38 and Stoeger .22lr Luger that I had bought for him early in my marriage.

Ah, so you play the long game too.

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[The Dude]

Wait... wut? Paid for & everything?

How much are you willing to spend on a shoulder rig?

This thread is worthless without pics.

Ah, so you play the long game too.

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Yeah, I paid for the Auto Mag in full up front. It's been a grail gun of mine ever since I was a little kid, one of the few guns I bought due to It's presence in movies (Dirty Harry's second favorite gun). There has been...let's say quite a few speed bumps for the company that has been trying to bring them back to the market. Last time I talked to Auto Mag I was somewhere in the 70s on the waiting list. I'm going to try calling them tomorrow to see if any progress has been made. It's been an excruciating wait.

I spent almost $700 for the custom shoulder rig I have for my Dan Wesson. It's from a custom maker called Nightingale Leather and I absolutely love it. It's been my favorite holster and my favorite way to carry ever since I got it, and I've owned quite a few custom holsters. I plan on saving up for a second one for my Staccato P.

I'll see if I can get some pics of everything I posted about.

Edit: photos, including a pic of my FK BRNO since I'm not sure I ever posted a photo of it after I got it.

 

[Dean Pentel]

Yeah, I paid for the Auto Mag in full up front. It's been a grail gun of mine ever since I was a little kid, one of the few guns I bought due to It's presence in movies (Dirty Harry's second favorite gun). There has been...let's say quite a few speed bumps for the company that has been trying to bring them back to the market. Last time I talked to Auto Mag I was somewhere in the 70s on the waiting list. I'm going to try calling them tomorrow to see if any progress has been made. It's been an excruciating wait.

I spent almost $700 for the custom shoulder rig I have for my Dan Wesson. It's from a custom maker called Nightingale Leather and I absolutely love it. It's been my favorite holster and my favorite way to carry ever since I got it, and I've owned quite a few custom holsters. I plan on saving up for a second one for my Staccato P.

Please post some pics and give your impressions of the Auto Mag after you have some time with it. I'd love to hear about it.

And hey, you're not the only one in the thread that's purchased a weapon because they saw it in a movie. I bought this Model 29-2 because I saw Dirty Harry as a kid and thought it'd be badass to own one. You should have heard some people freak out when they saw how I changed it or how much I fired it in 6 months after I got it (1200+ rounds).

Spoiler: Check it

And it's good to see another Dan Wesson fan. I run the Razorback. What's your Specialist chambered in? I use a Milt Sparks Summer Special II for mine. I can't afford a rig like yours. No hate, just it's out of my price range.

Spoiler: Razorback

That Kizer Sheepdog, is that the XL model? I bought the 3.25" titanium model off a friend. I'd been looking for something like a mini-cleaver type carry knife and he didn't want it anymore. I liked it but wanted a larger blade so I thought moving up to the 4" blade of the XL model would be fine, right? That thing is fucking huge! Who in the fuck would carry something like that? I felt like one of those retards that bought the Cold Steel Espada.

 

[HumptiDouji]

Yugoslavian SSU Underwater handgun, used cartridges that function like captive piston ammunition.

Interesting. I see that it's very much based on a flaregun. I don't recall the name, but I recognize it.
Captive piston cartridges for underwater darts is also very interesting, that is much like how the H&K P11's ammunition functions.

Montagnard (Referred to a "Yards" by SOG personnel, they were great fighters but prone to primitive antics such as eating anything that moved, shaking down their American teammates for money, food, watches and anything else they could get out of them and spray painting dogs various colors)

LMAO

This is the only photo I personally have seen of an XM177E2 with an equipped rifle grenade, despite one of the changes from the E1 to the E2 being the addition of a grenade ring.

Probably because the AR15s were never really well set up for it. None of the military models ever had the option to turn off the gas, so you're getting shitloads of pressure driving into the bolt when shooting a grenade like that.

Dudes who tried out the early AR15s during Project Agile mentioned liking the performance of the Energa grenades, but noted that they had a tendency to make the receivers pop open (I guess the rear receiver pin shears or pops out or something?) The XM177E2's moderator would be too large for standard US rifle grenades, so I wonder what grenade that is exactly.

 

[Club Sandwich]

The XM177E2's moderator would be too large for standard US rifle grenades, so I wonder what grenade that is exactly.

a normal WP grenade in the M2 grenade adapter. we had these up through the 90's because the really short carbines like the XM177, still popular for close encounters and among the Air Force et c, couldn't mount either the M203 or M203S and if you wanted to project a grenade it was either use the adapter or carry an M79.

 

[8mm Cunningham]

Well frens. I have been given the gift of "100 year old POS shotgun". Fails to extract reliably. Best I can tell it is a Mossberg 500 design sold at Montgomery Ward in the '30s. It just seems gummed up so hopefully I will have a beater boomstick soon.


Edit: The firing pin spring is straight up gone, along with the safety detent ball. New ones are on their way from Numrich.

 

[WelperHelper99]

game too.

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The Japanese know how to make space guns, damn man.

Probably because the AR15s were never really well set up for it. None of the military models ever had the option to turn off the gas, so you're getting shitloads of pressure driving into the bolt when shooting a grenade like that.

Dudes who tried out the early AR15s during Project Agile mentioned liking the performance of the Energa grenades, but noted that they had a tendency to make the receivers pop open (I guess the rear receiver pin shears or pops out or something?) The XM177E2's moderator would be too large for standard US rifle grenades, so I wonder what grenade that is exactly.

Hmm. I guess that explains why the French still like rifle grenades from their FAMAS, being lever delayed blowback and all that

Still think they got a place, notably yeeting large warheads, bigger than any 40mm Mike Mike, at long range