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what kind of magazine is on the LMT? looks awful long.

It's a Lancer 25rnd mag. Same magazine that the Army has selected for their new XM7 rifle. It's a polymer magazine with a steel feed chute/feed lips. I've got about ten of them, plus I also have a supply of 20rnd and 25rnd .308 P-Mags as backups. Lancer also makes 20rnd and 10rnd options.
 
Figured I'd post a couple of my rifles. These are my two 7.62x51mm/.308 Win rifles. Top rifle is a Mk14 Mod 0 that I built myself. It started out as an LRB barreled action and everything else I installed myself. The trigger group is a genuine USGI M14 trigger and all the parts are Harrington and Richardson. The scope is a US Optics TS 1-8x with a BDC reticle.

Bottom rifle is a Lewis Machine and Tool MWS308, the same rifle the UK Military adopted as the L129A1 designated marksman rifle. Optic is an Elcan Spectre TR. The WML is a Cloud Defensive OWL. I also have a second upper for it that originally came with the rifle that has a fully railed forend and an Aimpoint CompM4 red dot. Eventually I want to put a 20" stainless barrel and bipod on the railed upper with the Elcan mounted to it, and a 16" stainless barrel on the M-Lok upper with the Aimpoint mounted, so I can easily swap them out depending on my needs.

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How heavy is that Mk14? And hell yeah on that LMT.

One day I'll suck enough dicks work enough overtime to be able to afford something like that. Until then I have to poorfag it up with my PWS Mk218.

Edit: Thought I'd address the LMT MWS308 as well. It's my go-to "SHTF" rifle. It's not much bigger than your typical AR/M4gery, fairly light for a .308, but it's so much more versatile than your typical AR with that quick change barrel system.
I used to bitch about how heavy the AR10s can be when equipped with what I want on them. A buddy of mine told me he ran a 12" SR25 for a few years in AF and fully equipped it was very near 14 lbs. He said he killed a lot of armed men with it and if he was forced to choose only one rifle for a fight, it'd be that one.

That made me remember that every weapon is a compromise and if one wants to run a particular platform they should train enough to do so effectively.

I'm not interested in giving up my 5.56 rifles, but I too would choose something like the MARS-H in 16" .308 if I could only have one weapon.
 
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How heavy is that Mk14? And hell yeah on that LWT.

One day I'll suck enough dicks work enough overtime to be able to afford something like that. Until then I have poorfag it up with my PWS Mk218.

Been a while since I weighed it, which was basically weighing myself holding the rifle on a bathroom scale then weighing myself without it and taking the difference, but it's about 14 1/2lbs with the optic and an empty magazine. So...she's not exactly svelte, which is why she's set up as a DMR. I do plan on mounting a good bipod on it one day. That Sage chassis is basically one solid block of aluminum, and the 18" barrel on it is a much heavier profile than a 22" USGI spec M14 barrel so that it will get similar accuracy and range out of a shorter barrel due to the stiffness. The background behind the development of the Mk14 Mod 0 is really interesting. Basically the M14 never went out of service with the SEALs and they didn't want to give them up, but they also realized in the late 90s and early 2000s that it was going to become vital to be able to mount optics and accessories to rifles and asked Crane to come up with a way to modernize the M14. This was the result.

Edit: Thought I'd address the LMT MWS308 as well. It's my go-to "SHTF" rifle. It's not much bigger than your typical AR/M4gery, fairly light for a .308, but it's so much more versatile than your typical AR with that quick change barrel system. Take out those two bolts at the base of the handguard and the barrel and gas tube slide out. You can swap barrel lengths and also swap calibers. LMT makes barrels in pretty much every caliber based on the .308 case, like .243 Win., 7mm-08, 6.5mm Creedmoor, etc. I believe I paid $2600 or so for it, but it was a while ago and my memory ain't what it used to be. I got it on sale as it had been sitting on the rack and one of my local bang shops for months. Personally I feel like it's the best AR-10 style rifle one can get when you take into account price, reliability, ruggedness, accuracy with both ball and match grade ammo, features, and flexibility. I know the Brits love them and I've heard rumors that LMT started offering a 13" barrel option because of a request by the SAS because they wanted a rifle in an M4 sized package but packing a bigger punch. Estonia, New Zealand, and I think Australia have adopted them as DMRs as well. It's just a damn cool rifle, and it beat the HK417, FN SCAR Mk17 and Mk20, Knights Armament SR-25/M110 SASS, and a few others in the Brits DMR trials.
 
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Well I was looking into 20 inch M16 clonish upgraded rifle builds.

And looking for in stock products as well at this time.

We can start off for the lulz, with an Anderson Lower, and they even offer one with the M16 Auto Sear shelf.

Lowers:



Lower Parts Kit:

Use Smith and Wesson since the trigger pins have two notches on both ends for the hammer spring and has almost everything.


Buffer Tubes:

BCM usually works though they are not selling their rifle buffer tube for some reason.



Here is a substitute.


Or going for some C7 meme then there is this buffer stock that doesn't involve having to stake the castle nut.


And H2 carbine buffer is the standard for the C7A2.



Triggers:

Swap out the pins on the BCM trigger for the two notched versions from the Smith and Wesson Lower Parts Kit.


Or there is this drop in that comes with anti walk pins.



Bolt Carrier Group:

BCM has a chrome lining.


Charging Handle:

Radian charging handles.



Or there is Gisselle for the fancy stuff.


Muzzle Devices:

I usually prefer A1 flash hiders over the A2.





Handguard:


Stock:

For Fixed and add in the fattest rubber buttpad.



For Carbine and add in the fattest rubber buttpad.



Pistol Grips:



Iron Sights:

The PRO LR comes with the same 200 to 600 meters that the original carry handle had, but smaller.


Slings:

RS1 would be my first choice but its out of stock.


Trigger guard:

The polymer is easier to install than the aluminum one.



Uppers:

For now, PSA and Brownells are offering barrels with chrome inner lining.



 
Merry Christmas everybody! I hope Shooty Claus left everything you wanted under the tree!

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Differing Philosophies
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Sureshot Armament Group (Russia) ( Fathers of Sureshot Armament Group (America) ) have made an interesting modification to an SVD


A Redditor is working on a Trip for Super Safety/FRT activation for DB9 MAC's
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First in The Ukraine, now in Palestine, Holosun continues to see military use
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Type Zero Design have shown off renderings of a more subdued version of their Forward Charging Handguard
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Apparently in 2024, Colt will be releasing Uppers like those found on their SCAR-B, SCAR Competition rifle.
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The MACV-SOG Cut Down RPD has been immortalized by a statue in Delta Park in Hoquiam, Washington
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Person the statue is based on (the barrel is a bit too short)
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Over Under with Pneumatic recoil reducing stock from Grip Plus Inc
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My dad was a River Rat (USN Riverine Forces during the Vietnam War) on a PBR, and occasionally they'd be tasked with transporting SEAL fire teams up river. One of the teams they worked with most often had a SEAL with one of those cut down RPDs. Another one of the teams had a guy with a Mk23 (Stoner 63) in the belt-fed configuration with the shortest (16"?) barrel mounted. If I ever find my dad's slides from 'Nam I'd love to have them converted to digital photos.
 
Howdy guys. On my rifles with red dots I still like to have a set of BUIS. Some of my friends argue that they're no longer needed. I don't disagree, exactly, but for their minimal bulk and weight added I find them cheap insurance.

For a long time I was using this set. They work well and I've never had a problem with them, even traveling/moving said rifles quite a bit. They're clearly used but they keep their zero.

After running a set of the fixed iron sights on my PWS Mk218 from Scalarworks, I decided it'd be worth trying their folding iron sights.

What I like about the Scalarworks set is that their footprint is quite small and they require no tools to adjust. A few things I dislike about them is that they don't lock in place, they require a Torx bit to take on/off, and they're a lot more expensive than the Troy set. None of these things are dealbreakers for me but they are things to keep in mind.

The Scalarworks stuff definitely performs well but in this case, if you just want a decent BUIS set, go with something else and save money.
 
Howdy guys. On my rifles with red dots I still like to have a set of BUIS. Some of my friends argue that they're no longer needed. I don't disagree, exactly, but for their minimal bulk and weight added I find them cheap insurance.

For a long time I was using this set. They work well and I've never had a problem with them, even traveling/moving said rifles quite a bit. They're clearly used but they keep their zero.

After running a set of the fixed iron sights on my PWS Mk218 from Scalarworks, I decided it'd be worth trying their folding iron sights.

What I like about the Scalarworks set is that their footprint is quite small and they require no tools to adjust. A few things I dislike about them is that they don't lock in place, they require a Torx bit to take on/off, and they're a lot more expensive than the Troy set. None of these things are dealbreakers for me but they are things to keep in mind.

The Scalarworks stuff definitely performs well but in this case, if you just want a decent BUIS set, go with something else and save money.
stolen KAC BUIS on Ebay are the best BUIS.
 
Someone is doing a 3d print conversion for an AR trigger group or part of lower to an mp5. Anyone know much about this?
 
"They asked to see if it was secure and when he unlocked it..."

Wtf? Rifles dont need to be "secure," you can drive around with an un-cased long gun on your back seat. It does need to be unloaded.

@Club Sandwich can CA cops legally force you to uncase (or retrieve from a locked trunk) a firearm to check if it's loaded? Feels like a 4A issue.
 
@Club Sandwich can CA cops legally force you to uncase (or retrieve from a locked trunk) a firearm to check if it's loaded?
yes and no.

yes in the limited circumstance that the locked container is in the passenger compartment in plain view (for example a locked hard case in the back seat that has magpul stickers or something on it) where it can be argued probable cause or something to search the vehicle. this isn't likely to be reasonable, but opening your glovebox to get your insurance and registration paperwork and your handgun is there is very likely to trigger an inspection demand as well as not to touch it - the officer will ask you to get out of the vehicle so he can retrieve your documents for officer safety.

for the sake of completeness, all firearms in CA must be transported unloaded and separated from ammunition. it is handguns that specifically require a locked container alongside certain concealable weapons (the weapon on your concealed carry permit for example). shotguns and rifles are not required to be in a locked container during transport. this is CPSC 25400. transport through a school gun-free zone is specifically allowed as well as long as you do not stop in that zone during transport.

however in most circumstances, no - not if there isn't probable cause or a warrant or supervisory order from a court (for example if you're under a court order that abrogates your ability to possess a firearm your probation officer can conduct or request to be conducted a search and request you to unlock a locked container or provide a passcode or other minor assistance - not doing so can be probable cause in and of itself). pre-arrest questioning that results in suspicious answers or possibly incriminating behaviors should trigger a Mirandizing of the suspect for formal questioning so the arrest is clean however not all officers do this and it gets very hazy on how the court will deal with pre-arrest questioning that results in evidence collection of a felony - is the search that found the evidence based on actual good faith probable cause (behavioral cues, matching descriptions from a briefing, et c), admitted to by the detainee (so their own fault which will then generate probable cause for a search), or plain view?

while i can't comment on the example reddit post particular described situation, a vehicle stop can in some situations be probable cause for a search (for example dangerous or reckless driving or some other violation that isn't a moving violation). when the officer received the answer that prompted the inspection of the locked trunk (a legal way to transport weapon in CA is the trunk of a vehicle), and the guy volunteered that info, it can be probable cause that might stand up to scrutiny (as bullshit as it is, the officer is likely to claim that the guy volunteered the information and agreed to the search, and was then caught with the legally-defined assault weapon, which simple possession is a felony in CA).

if the person didn't volunteer that info, it's possible the officer would not have been interested in a vehicle search and if the officer had forced a vehicle search, a 4th Amendment argument is very possible as the pressure would be on the officer to establish probable cause for searching and obtaining that evidence.

amusingly, if he was transporting the legally defined assault weapon in a locked container (trunk) separated from ammunition and unloaded, he cannot be charged for illegal transport of a firearm - only the possession of it under CPSC 30605,

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i also wanted to add that now that felony possession of a CA assault weapon is established it is likely that a warrant can be secured to search his home for additional weapons violations, plain view contraband, et c. he isn't a felon yet, but as per the "gun violence restraining orders" that have been signed into law over the years, CA LEO are authorized (and most of time specifically required) to confiscate and hold firearms from persons that fall into specific categories (the GVRO requires a signature from the court for execution) such as convictions of certain crimes, or under the "red flag" laws, before trial as well. it is also required that should the trial not occur or the person is otherwise not prohibited, that their property be returned within 30 days of the conclusion of court's decision (barring any contraband that cannot be returned, which is then destroyed).
 
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I'm a total supporter of the Second Amendment but admittedly am a bit spooked by guns so I never bothered with them. Consequently, I literally don't know shit about guns, but I've been feeling especially unsafe recently so I'm strongly considering a handgun, strictly for self-defense purposes.

If anyone has advice for one, just factor in that I'm in California, and have some priorities & notes for consideration:

1) I'm retarded, so ease of use is paramount
2) I'm broke, so cheap as possible is necessary
3) I don't intend to do concealed carry, if that matters

I never realized exactly how restrictive California is until looking into things a bit. You certainly can't just go and buy one like libtards suggest, I wonder if I can even pass that required test (that they make you pay for, despite imposing it upon you).
 
I'm a total supporter of the Second Amendment but admittedly am a bit spooked by guns so I never bothered with them. Consequently, I literally don't know shit about guns, but I've been feeling especially unsafe recently so I'm strongly considering a handgun, strictly for self-defense purposes.

If anyone has advice for one, just factor in that I'm in California, and have some priorities & notes for consideration:

1) I'm retarded, so ease of use is paramount
2) I'm broke, so cheap as possible is necessary
3) I don't intend to do concealed carry, if that matters

I never realized exactly how restrictive California is until looking into things a bit. You certainly can't just go and buy one like libtards suggest, I wonder if I can even pass that required test (that they make you pay for, despite imposing it upon you).
You might be better off with a 20GA pump shotgun.
Maverick 88
That's the bantam model, sometimes also called a youth model.
It basically means the stock is shorter, reducing the overall size of the gun to the "legal" minimum while still basically being 50 state legal without having to mess with any weird loopholes.
Relatively inexpensive.
Easier to handle and shoot.
Easier to acquire in almost any state.
Recoil on a 20GA isn't bad and defensive loads are readily available.
If you're set on a handgun I'd start by looking at used 4th generation Glock 17 or 19.
I'm not necessarily directly recommending a Glock but it's a good place to start and you can take the attributes of that gun into account while looking at other guns.
A S&W m&p 9 in a fullsize or compact would also be a decent place to look.
Find a shooting range near you and see if they do rentals and go try some out.
9/10 times if you tell them you're new someone will be more than happy to show you the ropes.
Anyway, that's my advice.
 
I'm a total supporter of the Second Amendment but admittedly am a bit spooked by guns so I never bothered with them. Consequently, I literally don't know shit about guns, but I've been feeling especially unsafe recently so I'm strongly considering a handgun, strictly for self-defense purposes.

If anyone has advice for one, just factor in that I'm in California, and have some priorities & notes for consideration:

1) I'm retarded, so ease of use is paramount
2) I'm broke, so cheap as possible is necessary
3) I don't intend to do concealed carry, if that matters

I never realized exactly how restrictive California is until looking into things a bit. You certainly can't just go and buy one like libtards suggest, I wonder if I can even pass that required test (that they make you pay for, despite imposing it upon you).
the first line of defense is not being in a situation that would require self defense. I'd say leave California.

as for suggestions, if you dont intend on carry, i'd look into pump action shotguns, preferably with wood stocks (you live in a state extremely hostile to the right to self defense, if you use your gun its you're likely getting charged.). shotguns are generally perceived as the least "assaulty weapony" by the public.

Loading with the right loading of buck or slugs they can provide a one shot stop on any human being and most animals.
 
You might be better off with a 20GA pump shotgun.
Maverick 88
That's the bantam model, sometimes also called a youth model.
It basically means the stock is shorter, reducing the overall size of the gun to the "legal" minimum while still basically being 50 state legal without having to mess with any weird loopholes.
Relatively inexpensive.
Easier to handle and shoot.
Easier to acquire in almost any state.
Recoil on a 20GA isn't bad and defensive loads are readily available.
If you're set on a handgun I'd start by looking at used 4th generation Glock 17 or 19.
No, I'm not set on a handgun, I just figured smaller would be easier to handle, but it's a baseless assumption on my part.

I'll check out that one, thanks, hope you don't mind if I have some questions.

Find a shooting range near you and see if they do rentals and go try some out.
9/10 times if you tell them you're new someone will be more than happy to show you the ropes.
Anyway, that's my advice.
Dumb question, but are rentals available for shotguns to try out like that too? Thanks.

the first line of defense is not being in a situation that would require self defense. I'd say leave California.
I certainly plan on it.

as for suggestions, if you dont intend on carry, i'd look into pump action shotguns, preferably with wood stocks (you live in a state extremely hostile to the right to self defense, if you use your gun its you're likely getting charged.). shotguns are generally perceived as the least "assaulty weapony" by the public.
Sound reasoning for the choice. Yeah, victims of criminals are victimized by the state for self-defense quite commonly, so I'm hoping it doesn't ever need to be used.

By the way, is there a practical reason for preferring wood stocks? Or is it just less intimidating looking or something?
 
A smaller gun can be much harder to control mostly because you have less physical contact with it.
You will have way more contact with long gun. (Hands, shoulder, cheeks, arms Vs. hands alone)
In my experience it's mostly indoor ranges that do rentals and that's 90% handguns.
Most indoor ranges that allow shotguns are also slug only.
Look for some skeet & trap ranges.
You won't really learn any defensive shotgun there but you might be able to try out a few different models.
 
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