It's uses the platform the Italian Arsenal Strike pistols used when they were being imported but made in Germany imported by PTR. They've been made for a couple years in the Gen 1 version that was more a traditional pistol with no optics cut. The operating system is very unique as well the barrel is separate from the link which is more like a collar leading for a very low bore axis and a barrel that stays near horizontal with the slide on cycling .
I've only heard about this but never seen one in person. Do tell us your thoughts once you've had some time and rounds downrange with it.
I've met guys that EDC a Shadow 2 with a RDS. Not my style but some guys don't mind such weights.
I think it could be nifty, and I like the overgrown Colt Woodsman form factor, but even on the long end the Kimball pistols had extremely short barrels for .30 Carbine, the Ruger Blackhawk and AMT Automag III were better suited by giving you a lot of length as to actually provide some worthwhile velocity, and not TOO much blast.
Right, I recall hearing about these, they seemed weird and interesting, hope you'll tell us more when you get it.
They come with Talon grip on them, one model comes with the medium texture and this one is their skateboard grip tape variety.
Looks like a Rail Rap from Burn Proof Gear. I have them on 3 of my rifles. If you're doing something like dumping 5+ magazines in very short order they'll help mitigate felt barrel heat well. I have their suppressor covers too, which I think is a better use of money spent on their products.
i mean, i just wear gloves and if something is super hot, i have a sweat band or something soaked in water...
The thing is, you could do more with 30 carbine than JUST pistols. It's a pdw round. Slap that bad boy in a modern style AR carbine with the same 18 inch barrel. Or hell, shorter. Give it a CAR 15 profile with a 10.5 inch barrel.
I do agree with that. An AR carbine with a receiver and action shortened down for .30 Carbine length (rather than just a 5.56mm one with a spacer block in the magwell), along with some new plastic or aluminum magazines. Focus on making it lightweight.
interesting that they discolored... admittedly i stick with either Hatch or the "nomex" flight gloves off the PX/BX shelf (rothco and others make them). they can get toasty for sure, but never hot or discolored that i've noticed and i've used them for handling some pretty hot barrels and suppressors now and again. when i'm not expecting any mag dump scenarios the basic mechanix gloves work well enough for my use. one of the things i look for in a rail is either an aluminum heat shield or an insulator (it's not readily heat conductive), never liked slim rails or the ones without any heat protection since getting burned sucks.
Some of the thinner shooting gloves are very flimsy. Get proper leather gloves, Mechanix has a bunch. Or if really concerned about heat, look into some of the lighter welding gloves. Nomex and leather are your friend when it comes to blocking heat.
I'm partial to the MP5 personally. I've only shot a PTR91 and AR 15s so the MPX manual of arms is more familiar and it has a last round hold open and all the bells and whistles of an AR platform.
That's under 2 pounds. Deagles are 4-4.5.
MP5 is a cooler gun, but LRBHO and options besides 9mm are not common.
I bought an new MPX for like 2k with some button flip iron sights and really really like it. I didn't want to buy an MP5 because at the cost of it I wanted to pay off my car thats nearly paid off first. I've started collecting firearms after I finished paying off nearly all my debt and I just feel like I want the MP5 because of the cool factor.
UZI because it's heavy, square, made of win.
