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MrJokerRager said:
The 5.56 would eject between 2:00 to 3:00 and the 223 would eject 3:00 to 4:00.
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So your gun is only slightly overgassed, I don't know if I would really bother with messing with it unless you're a perfectionist and want it running flawlessly with that ammo in particular. Better to be over gassed on 5.56 than undergassed on .223 if you're going back and forth.
 
MrJokerRager said:
I believe it's this one.




Yeah, this one from Winchester.
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that R0901 upper goes back to the mid 90's and uses a 0.09275" gas port, designed for the 5.1oz rifle buffer (with fiber spacer) and intended for M855, M856, and similar. if you want to use a carbine-style stock on it with carbine-length receiver extension, i would recommend an H2 with a flat wire spring or SpringCo blue to match up lock times with the rifle length system and swapping between M193, M855, and typical .223 loads.

if you're using the standard carbine spring with the H2 buffer and finding that M193 is feeling over-gassed, you need a stouter spring, not a heavier buffer. if you plan on also suppressing the 20" barrel you will need the H3 buffer and possibly the red spring...

as always, it's hard to really diagnose over the internet. if the rifle functions with the ammo you intend to use and it's a new upper, then i would probably just leave it as-is.
 
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WelperHelper99 said:
Post civil war, didn't they do the same with 45-70? Because 45-70 can reach out 1000 yards if you have the right sights to calculate the drop.
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yeah, plus a whole slew of other cartridges like .45-90, .45-110, .40-70, .38-55, 40-55 sharps bottleneck, .40-65, and on and on. towards the 1880s and 90s small bore rifles took over the target shooting scene (small bore meaning less than .50 caliber) while the .45-70 and its children and the .50-70 and larger cartridges held sway in hunting circles. intrinsically all these cartridges can perform well on the range but express cartridges were favored. A period muzzleloader vs a period breach loader could be just as accurate (especially one as well made as a rigby rifle) but keeping your powder charges accurate etc is harder when loading on the line. a cartridge can be loaded at home in a controlled environment so it's generally more accurate. Reloading your own shells for the matches was already a very common practice by the 1870's.

all these cartridges are still popular in BPCR shooting, where matches are shot at ranges out to 1,000 yards. sometimes they shoot out to a mile. the trajectory is like a rainbow but with bullets this heavy wind is much less of a concern! shooters generally shoot with period correct tools too, like wood shooting sticks. tang ladder sights are required, any scope would bottom out at range due to the elevation required.
 
Club Sandwich said:
it's a new upper, then i would probably just leave it as-is.
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The upper is very well accurate and impressive.

I don't think they sold me a defective product.

Though on a side note, have fired both the 20 inch PSA premium upper with the FN barrel and this colt upper.

The accuracy and groupings are almost indistinguishable.

PSA could probably improve the finish to make it more scratch resistant and matte, other than that, I can see why Colt is basically buying for the brand as I did lol.
 
Dean Pentel said:
What do you all think of this as a PCC that could function as a home defense/road trip/backpacking weapon?
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Stribog: Check
10mm: Check
Roller Delayed Blowback for your shooting pleasure: check
I like it. But I'm partial to these stribog-style metal PCCs. I like how compact they are, and the aesthetics look right.
I've never been a big AR/AK platform PCC guy, if I want a rifle platform, I want a rifle caliber.
Something like this you could put a folder and red dot on, throw in a laptop bag with a couple mags, and no one but you would be any the wiser that you're well prepared.
 
Dean Pentel said:
What do you all think of this as a PCC that could function as a home defense/road trip/backpacking weapon?
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as has been stated time immemorial; if you train with it and maintain it, it will work
But if you're asking us to justify your impulse purchase, yeah go for it I heckin' support your 10mm habit
 
WhoBusTank69 said:
as has been stated time immemorial; if you train with it and maintain it, it will work
But if you're asking us to justify your impulse purchase, yeah go for it I heckin' support your 10mm habit
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Appreciate the support! However, I'm not going to buy this as I already have something setup for the purpose @BallsMcLongDong mentioned above.

If I didn't already have that I'd consider purchasing this as it's less expensive than a CMMG Banshee and has a better operating system. If it proved reliable I think something like this could effectively work as both an HD weapon and a truck gun.
 
Dean Pentel said:
Appreciate the support! However, I'm not going to buy this as I already have something setup for the purpose @BallsMcLongDong mentioned above.

If I didn't already have that I'd consider purchasing this as it's less expensive than a CMMG Banshee and has a better operating system. If it proved reliable I think something like this could effectively work as both an HD weapon and a truck gun.
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I'm coming from left field with the suggestion of a takedown Ruger PCC.

Yes it's basic as shit buuuttt you can break it into halves and two halves are a LOT easier to cart around than one whole PCC.

Or just go big and get a Turkish MP5 or MP5K clone and call it a day
 
Romulus augustulus said:
yeah, plus a whole slew of other cartridges like .45-90, .45-110, .40-70, .38-55, 40-55 sharps bottleneck, .40-65, and on and on. towards the 1880s and 90s small bore rifles took over the target shooting scene (small bore meaning less than .50 caliber) while the .45-70 and its children and the .50-70 and larger cartridges held sway in hunting circles. intrinsically all these cartridges can perform well on the range but express cartridges were favored. A period muzzleloader vs a period breach loader could be just as accurate (especially one as well made as a rigby rifle) but keeping your powder charges accurate etc is harder when loading on the line. a cartridge can be loaded at home in a controlled environment so it's generally more accurate. Reloading your own shells for the matches was already a very common practice by the 1870's.

all these cartridges are still popular in BPCR shooting, where matches are shot at ranges out to 1,000 yards. sometimes they shoot out to a mile. the trajectory is like a rainbow but with bullets this heavy wind is much less of a concern! shooters generally shoot with period correct tools too, like wood shooting sticks. tang ladder sights are required, any scope would bottom out at range due to the elevation required.
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Pretty interesting all things considered. It would be cool to see a 45-70 sniper rifle, tang ladder sights and all. Probably a rolling block like a Ruger no. 1 for accuracy.
 
WelperHelper99 said:
Sorry I got it mixed up lol. But you know what I mean. The rim would be tricky in a bolt action, so a single shot would probably be the best bet
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Not as bad as you think, but people shy away because R&D is scary.
Winchester-Hotchkiss 1st model
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Second model
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Or the Remington-Lee
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WhoBusTank69 said:
Not as bad as you think, but people shy away because R&D is scary.
Winchester-Hotchkiss 1st model
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Or the Remington-Lee
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WhoBusTank69 said:
Not as bad as you think, but people shy away because R&D is scary.
Winchester-Hotchkiss 1st model
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Second model
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Or the Remington-Lee
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Cool that there's 45-70 bolt actions, but as you said, R&D is a bitch. It's why there's very few modern ones.
 
WelperHelper99 said:
Pretty interesting all things considered. It would be cool to see a 45-70 sniper rifle, tang ladder sights and all. Probably a rolling block like a Ruger no. 1 for accuracy.
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Here is a Sharps long range rifle in .45-120. it was a newly built Sharps made by C. Sharps arms in Montana. Its representative of what a BPCR rifle looks like. C Sharps and Shiloh rifle company make really nice single shots on various actions for fair prices. you can get a match grade custom rifle for 2-5,000 USD but with all the options it can easily go past 10k with engraving, extra nice wood etc. that kind of accuracy is possible with a good enough shooter and conditions.
WelperHelper99 said:
Cool that there's 45-70 bolt actions, but as you said, R&D is a bitch. It's why there's very few modern ones.
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it used to be a thing to convert sporterized mosins to .45-70. you only have to machine a little on the bolt because the rim diameters between x54r and .45-70 are pretty close. and a new barrel of cource. IIRC the stock mosin mag will work too.
 
Romulus augustulus said:
C Sharps and Shiloh rifle company
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With my luck I'd order one and die within the two-year wait period.
Romulus augustulus said:
it used to be a thing to convert sporterized mosins to .45-70. you only have to machine a little on the bolt because the rim diameters between x54r and .45-70 are pretty close. and a new barrel of cource. IIRC the stock mosin mag will work too.
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The magazine is a tad too thin, but yeah you can do the Mosin. I'd sooner make one out of an Enfield, though, since those are still reasonably priced.
 
what 8 guage buck shot does to whoever is unfortunate to be on the receiving end:
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Meet billy doolin, leader of the outlaw gang known as the "wild Bunch" which included colorful characters like "Arkansas tom jones" and "little britches" and "cattle annie" among others. they robbed banks and killed people all through the 1890s. Billy was killed at his home in Quay Oklahoma (population 39!) when marshal Heck Thomas confronted him in the front yard. Billy had a gun, marshal Thomas had a bigger one.
Marshal Thomas:
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8 gauge shotguns are an interesting collectors item these days. shells are impossible to come by, original ammo is exorbitantly expensive and its illegal to use an 8 gauge to hunt due to international treaty. market hunters damn near shot duck, geese and did shoot the Carolina parakeet to extinction. The 8 gauge held enough shot to take down a flock of birds in one shot. Remington still loads 8ga shells for their industrial cleaning shotgun but they do not sell to private individuals,
 
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