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some cool old ads. I like how they used to actually try to sell you the gun instead of just having a photo and a logo. they actually had some pride in the product they were putting out.
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Badungus Kabungus said:
May be time to bring out all the crazy under-barrel shotgun designs like the Crye Six12 again. Whatever did happen to that thing?
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The thing that killed it at least for civilian ownership was probably the ATF's hateboner for revolving shotguns(Armsel Striker/Streetsweeper) and that the Six12 used easily swappable cylinders.

MerelyAPlateOfSpaghetti said:
Revolver shotty with the trigger in front of the cylinder? Hope it seals well :/
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WhoBusTank69 said:
The thing that killed it at least for civilian ownership was probably the ATF's hateboner for revolving shotguns(Armsel Striker/Streetsweeper) and that the Six12 used easily swappable cylinders.


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Interesting setup, getting pretty complex mechanically.

Would be nice to have something like two barrels in a break open over-under, or rather a rotated side-by-side configuration. Have the barrels swing out to the side and ejectors to pop the shells out. Should be simple and cheap to produce. You lose some ammo capacity but it's fast to reload and the slim profile should carry well.
 
That "Smith and Wesson .41 Magnum M&P" was the Model 58, the less frilly companion to the Model 57 aimed at the LEO market. Kind of like how they had the fancier Model 27 and less fancy Model 28 "Highway Patrolman" for their .357 Mag N Frames, but the Model 58 was even less fancy than the Model 28 in that it had fixed notch and blade style sights, whereas the Model 28 at least had adjustable rear sighs. The 58 was kind of like the Model 10 on steroids. Definitely a good duty gun. I believe San Francisco PD adopted them for their motorcycle patrol officers and a few other departments/agencies/highway patrol did as well because the .41 Magnum was excellent at punching through the thicker steel car bodies and tempered safety glass windshields that were common place in the 1960s and 70s, but most were satisfied with .357 Magnum if they needed something more stout than a .38 Spcl.
 
The Dude said:
That "Smith and Wesson .41 Magnum M&P" was the Model 58, the less frilly companion to the Model 57 aimed at the LEO market. Kind of like how they had the fancier Model 27 and less fancy Model 28 "Highway Patrolman" for their .357 Mag N Frames, but the Model 58 was even less fancy than the Model 28 in that it had fixed notch and blade style sights, whereas the Model 28 at least had adjustable rear sighs. The 58 was kind of like the Model 10 on steroids. Definitely a good duty gun. I believe San Francisco PD adopted them for their motorcycle patrol officers and a few other departments/agencies/highway patrol did as well because the .41 Magnum was excellent at punching through the thicker steel car bodies and tempered safety glass windshields that were common place in the 1960s and 70s, but most were satisfied with .357 Magnum if they needed something more stout than a .38 Spcl.
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Louisville issued the model 58 to some officers. I know at one point LMPD SWAT had model 29s. I used to have a photo of one of the model 29s. it had LMPD SWAT engraved on the side plate inside of a badge.
 
More hood niggers showing off their "incognito" switches on YT:
:story:

I'd like to think their habit of self-snitching on social media will get them hemmed up, but we know better than that.
MerelyAPlateOfSpaghetti said:
Revolver shotty with the trigger in front of the cylinder? Hope it seals well :/
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It looks like the trigger is far enough forward that it'd keep your hand away from the cylinder gap and it's covered some, but I expect it probably still spackled forearms & sleeves with burning powder; at least a little.

And speaking of, if I had my druthers, a machine shop, or could actually make something with my own hands....

The underbarrel shotgun design that's been floating around in my head for a very long time doesn't require a traditional trigger; instead using some sort of toggle switch, ideally electronic (with a mechanical backup), and mounted closer to the support hand in it's natural position. So that once it's loaded you don't need to break/change grip to fire or eject spent shells.

My conundrums have always been how to make it safe (shrouding or locking the toggle out); designing it to be unobtrusive yet tactilely different enough from other accessory switches to identify by touch, and if at all possible incorporating an auto-eject feature, which would make it semi semi-automatic(?).

As @Badungus Kabungus suggested it'd ideally be double-barrelled OU (or even triple), preferably popping open & ejecting to the side. I figure that without the need for a traditional trigger mechanism/housing directly on the shotgun & requiring a shift of support hand to the underbarrel to fire, it could eject empties automatically & thus be ready for reloading quite quickly. I guess maybe it'd be like a modernised, modular drilling.
:woo:
 
Romulus augustulus said:
Louisville issued the model 58 to some officers. I know at one point LMPD SWAT had model 29s. I used to have a photo of one of the model 29s. it had LMPD SWAT engraved on the side plate inside of a badge.
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Absolutely love my 57. I'd love toget either another P&I'd 57 with a 4" barrel, or a 4" 657 from the 80s for a carry gun.

Pocket Dragoon said:
More hood niggers showing off their "incognito" switches on YT:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=1WbvL2ivfrA:story:

I'd like to think their habit of self-snitching on social media will get them hemmed up, but we know better than that.

It looks like the trigger is far enough forward that it'd keep your hand away from the cylinder gap and it's covered some, but I expect it probably still spackled forearms & sleeves with burning powder; at least a little.

And speaking of, if I had my druthers, a machine shop, or could actually make something with my own hands....

The underbarrel shotgun design that's been floating around in my head for a very long time doesn't require a traditional trigger; instead using some sort of toggle switch, ideally electronic (with a mechanical backup), and mounted closer to the support hand in it's natural position. So that once it's loaded you don't need to break/change grip to fire or eject spent shells.

My conundrums have always been how to make it safe (shrouding or locking the toggle out); designing it to be unobtrusive yet tactilely different enough from other accessory switches to identify by touch, and if at all possible incorporating an auto-eject feature, which would make it semi semi-automatic(?).

As @Badungus Kabungus suggested it'd ideally be double-barrelled OU (or even triple), preferably popping open & ejecting to the side. I figure that without the need for a traditional trigger mechanism/housing directly on the shotgun & requiring a shift of support hand to the underbarrel to fire, it could eject empties automatically & thus be ready for reloading quite quickly. I guess maybe it'd be like a modernised, modular drilling.
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There are some LEOs who cruise social media for locally made rap videos to find stolen and illegally modified firearms. Donut Operator has spoken about doing just that when he was still an LEO in a few of his videos. Video clarity is so sharp on videos these days that they can zoom in to still shots of the video and get the serial numbers from rap retards waving around their stolen "GLOCKs wit da switch and da tiddy hangin' awf (drum mags)".
 
...so after building that new AR, I played musical chairs with some of my existing optics - removed the microdot from my P80 chassis and stuck it on the offset mount on the rifle that's wearing the PA 5x microprism and moved the BDC microdot that used to be on that mount to the new rifle on a lower 1/3 cowitness mount.

Took them to the range Sunday and had them (along with the irons for the new rifle) zeroed with about 12 rounds expended and another dozen to confirm.

After that, I noticed a range neighbor burning through a second full mag trying to zero his AR's Amazon scope (one of the ones that comes with a cheap reflex on top and a green laser on the side).

Offered to help and he confessed that the scope mount was loose, so after we tightened that with one of my multitools, had him zeroed and confirmed for both the scope and reflex inside of ten rounds. Explaining the boresighting and zeroing process felt like teaching black magic for some reason, lol.

Anyway, I found a new shooting buddy.
 
Pocket Dragoon said:
Hell, just from watching so many high-definition go-pro videos of troops from both sides being on the receiving end of FPV and dropping drones, that now whenever I hear a drone flying around at the park it makes me want to take cover. While the sound of incoming indirect fire & small arms in these videos also gives me the shakes & palpitations, I haven't heard those sounds IRL in 20 years. But now drones are everywhere & I seriously worry for those guys.

Along with that, I really wonder where designers are going to take shotguns with that specific purpose in mind. Or are they going to stick with essentially modernized trap & game guns?

Even so, I still hear spergs insist drones are near impossible to shoot down with a shotgun due to speed/size (i.e. FPV) or altitude (mavic & matrice).

They always seem to be the types who believe shit like WW2 rifles are still best rifles, that T-55s & IS-3 would still viable in Ukraine as anything but self-propelled artillery, that drone swarms would never be a thing, etc.
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Anyone who doubts drones can be shot down with shotguns have never seen a 85 year old hill billy half cocked on moonshine nab a pickup clay with a hand load after 2 others shooters missed it at 100+ yards.
 
Romulus augustulus said:
can't be any harder to hit a drone than it is to hit a high goose.
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I'd imagine hitting a drone would likely be easier since the drone would be flying straight at you instead of laterally and away from you like a bird or clay. MythBusters did an episode on the WWI tale of American soldiers shooting grenades out of the air with shotguns and demonstrated that a grenade coming straight at them was easier to shoot out of the air than trying to lead it horizontally.
 
The Dude said:
I'd imagine hitting a drone would likely be easier since the drone would be flying straight at you instead of laterally and away from you like a bird or clay. MythBusters did an episode on the WWI tale of American soldiers shooting grenades out of the air with shotguns and demonstrated that a grenade coming straight at them was easier to shoot out of the air than trying to lead it horizontally.
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Yep, and same rules apply to MANPADs too. Much easier to line up something coming right at you.
 
Abraham Lincoln said:
I believe radical Islam has settled the debate.

M16 > AK

Now Kalashnikov commie lovers can sneed.
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On the US commercial market, the AK used to be the best option for the poors because imports were cheap and a-plenty, but now artificial scarcity has made it a lot more niche. Once the cheap Tula on tap got cut off by Biden's sanctions, the party was ogre. AR's are just more practical these days and I say this as a former AKfag.

In a truly free market, the AK is a decent option, but the market is no longer free. Well, it really hasn't been in the US since 1934.
 
Agares said:
On the US commercial market, the AK used to be the best option for the poors because imports were cheap and a-plenty, but now artificial scarcity has made it a lot more niche. Once the cheap Tula on tap got cut off by Biden's sanctions, the party was ogre. AR's are just more practical these days and I say this as a former AKfag.

In a truly free market, the AK is a decent option, but the market is no longer free. Well, it really hasn't been in the US since 1934.
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Old man shouting at clouds but I remember being able to get a cherry Vz.58 with five mags, the pouch to hold them, sling and bayonet for under 700.
 
Martys_not_smarty said:
Old man shouting at clouds but I remember being able to get a cherry Vz.58 with five mags, the pouch to hold them, sling and bayonet for under 700.
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I was a kid in those days and reading those old Cheaper than Dirt catalogs was like looking at a porno mag. All those cool ass guns I couldn't get because my family lived in fucking California.
 
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