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Null said:
I will keep magazines with those in them separate from what is fired into the range for practice
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This is fine and understandable, you don't want to always be shooting $$$ when you could shoot $, but run at least a few magazines of the expensive rounds through your gun, that way you know it works with your firearm. Firearms are weird in that some guns (even the same model!) can just be picky about certain ammunitions.

Anecdotally, I had an uncle who bought very expensive hollow-points for his 1911 (insert joke about Kimber QC), only to realize in a panic at about 1:00AM when somebody was banging on his windows that the hollow-points would not chamber properly in his pistol. Whoever it was ran off, and when he tried the hollow-points at the range the next day he found that even if he could get them to chamber, they wouldn't cycle reliably.

Secondly, keep in mind the further the gap in performance between your rounds, the further off your zero will be when you start shooting past 50 meters or so.

WhoBusTank69 said:
I hate to break it to you, but just about anything fired indoors will cause immediate damage to your hearing.
I have the same disdain towards people who claim shotguns are louder than rifles, that is not factual.
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This is true in the same way that being shot will cause immediate damage to you. It lacks nuance. If I had to pick I'd rather be shot by a .22, not a .50.

There's a world of difference between ~140 decibels from a 10/22 and ~155 decibels from an AR-15 (18inch). One can leave you with pain and loss of higher frequencies, and the other can lead to actual permanent deafness and permanent tinnitus. Pistols actually end up worse than rifles in a lot of cases because the barrel is so much closer to your ears.

Powerleveling slightly, but I've had to fire a pistol indoors without hearing protection. I fired 3 shots and I have loss of higher frequencies along with major tinnitus, mainly in my right ear due to the positioning of the pistol. The loss in QoL is significant and I'm no longer able to enjoy quiet areas like I used to. The NFA is evil, everybody should be able to have suppressors.
 
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POWER IN MISERY said:
shit man for better or worse i've already got a couple daggers which, you know, i like but i can't really make any point to substantiate it.
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Got a bucket of daggers as well. Every new shooter loves them. Finished cerakoting one sig dark grey, looks sick. I like dropping in an OEM Glock trigger on all of mine.

Micro dagger looks appealing, especially since the frames come in any color, but just finished a p365 build thats a dream summer carry gun. Walking around with 15 rounds 9mm, an EPS carry dot, barely noticing it in a black arch holster (someone on this site recommended, thanks whoever that was).
 
Who is feeding josh this information
-99 cent level 4 plates from the dollar tree duct taped, no rig needed (cuts cost)
-Buying a .50 cal for home defense
-5.56 is basically a pistol caliber
-despite being morbidly obese im gonna get a 40 pound .50 cal to shoulder and fire in a firefight with the additional weight from my plate rig when the transexual army invades
-the settle down in a bunker and cut yourself off from society on 80 acres strategy is full proof

If you want to spend a shitload of money just buy a select fire knights armament and a good plate rig. The 700 guns thing is pretty retarded, if you want to actually be lethal and not larp get a quality rifle you love, a pistol, and train with it until you master it. Whether that be a intermediate cartridge or a battle rifle if you think lower calibers arn't enough stopping power or dont have enough options ammo wise. If you want to start a collection of guns as a hobby thats cool but buying like 5 guns for home defense is fucking stupid, especially with guns your going to shoot seldom (if ever) like a .50 cal. Your also going to have to become very friendly with your neighbors or even join a militia for your wanted purpose because you sound like most boomer prepers and mall ninjas who have a grand idea about living in a bunker in the apocolypse in new mexico with 5000 rations and 96 guns like some gang wont just find the air intake and pour gasoline down it. If your alone your basically dead, if a large group starts hunting you or decides they want your shit blown up your never going to be like rambo with an m60 killing 25 dudes approaching on all corners of your property. Even just 2-5 guys is going to massively decrease your odds of dying and even the odds of an actual firefight trained or not. For your situation though it sounds like your not in THAT much danger and honestly the 8 round benneli m3 with buckshot would probably be more than enough considering if you have fear for your life emptying the magazine through the door armored targets or not would pulverize them if it was 2 or 3 people

Maybe if its transexuals on hrt with bloody amholes you might have a chance by yourself against 25 though actually

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I have absolutely no idea why people are saying the mentally ill, suicidal, ex military retards with nothing to lose and no family to live absolutely positively will never even consider level 4 plates.
 
hog cranking frog said:
Got a bucket of daggers as well. Every new shooter loves them. Finished cerakoting one sig dark grey, looks sick. I like dropping in an OEM Glock trigger on all of mine.

Micro dagger looks appealing, especially since the frames come in any color, but just finished a p365 build thats a dream summer carry gun. Walking around with 15 rounds 9mm, an EPS carry dot, barely noticing it in a black arch holster (someone on this site recommended, thanks whoever that was).
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if it wasn't for the frame being a cool 60 bucks and my own familiarity with slapping daggers together i'd probably go for a sig. palmetto went wild with their colors lately and while i really like their burnt orange and bronze i'm going to keep it safe with all grey.
if the C-1 slides are ever back in stock i might get one but i haven't decided yet. i'm gonna put my TLR8AG on and probably get trijicon night sights on instead of a whole optic.
 
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Null said:
I have absolutely no idea why people are saying the mentally ill, suicidal, ex military retards with nothing to lose and no family to live absolutely positively will never even consider level 4 plates.
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If they try to raid you, they probably will be wearing level 4 plates. The thing is, you don't defeat level 4 plates by going through them, you defeat them by hitting the human wearing them in areas not covered by the plate, which is best done with a semi automatic rifle in 556 with a large mag.

POWER IN MISERY said:
shit man for better or worse i've already got a couple daggers which, you know, i like but i can't really make any point to substantiate it.
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Get a proper glock 43x or 48
 
While I would still recommend buying a 5.56 rifle and slowly working up to optics, force multipliers (suppressor/NVG/Thermal) , and finally goofy extreme options (40mm/masterkeys/binary triggers); if you are hell bent on .30-06 you have options. It would be much more efficient to get a CMP (civilian marksmanship program) Garand for only around $700 instead of $5k for an HCAR right off the bat. That way you can feel out the cartridge to see if you actually like shooting it. CMP organizations will also teach you how to efficiently shoot(never been to one but they are more target focused which is still good practice). If you end up hating .30-06, it is easier to sell a Garand than a HCAR. You also would not be spending used car levels of money just to find out you hate it.

Null said:
I have absolutely no idea why people are saying the mentally ill, suicidal, ex military retards with nothing to lose and no family to live absolutely positively will never even consider level 4 plates.
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I am not one of those people, but they are likely figuring people that determined would have already jumped on a plane to Serbia to hunt you down.
 
biglurker said:
I am not one of those people, but they are likely figuring people that determined would have already jumped on a plane to Serbia to hunt you down.
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Nobody knows where I live. If they did, they might. Why are you playing pretend?
 
Null said:
I don't care about the cost, why do people keep pointing this out? If there's a special kind of ammo that hits through Level 4s but costs $10 a bullet I will keep magazines with those in them separate from what is fired into the range for practice.
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There is no realistically available 5.56x45 that will effectively penetrate NIJ Level IV plates. XM995 has been shown to require multiple strikes in the same spot to punch through. Unironically the ideal way to deal with threats that are armored is multiple shots to the face/throat or the pelvic bowl area no meme it’s just how it is when dealing with an armored threat. The best you can do is to train and prepare for that situation.
 
EggImpregnator said:
If they try to raid you, they probably will be wearing level 4 plates. The thing is, you don't defeat level 4 plates by going through them, you defeat them by hitting the human wearing them in areas not covered by the plate, which is best done with a semi automatic rifle in 556 with a large mag.
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You don't even need to worry about not hitting the plates. Steel spalls and ceramic cracks. Even L4 is sacrificial armor, it will completely stop single shots of high pressure intermediate rifle cartridges, but the integrity of the material is compromised and subsequent impacts can and will penetrate.
 
AntiSchwuletteAktion said:
You don't even need to worry about not hitting the plates. Steel spalls and ceramic cracks. Even L4 is sacrificial armor, it will completely stop single shots of high pressure intermediate rifle cartridges, but the integrity of the material is compromised and subsequent impacts can and will penetrate.
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Disagree. Most level 4 ceramics these days are multi hit rated.
 
Null said:
I have absolutely no idea why people are saying the mentally ill, suicidal, ex military retards with nothing to lose and no family to live absolutely positively will never even consider level 4 plates.
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Its possible though pretty unlikely because a good quality 1 plate rig (keeping the back plate out is like 300 dollars, weighs allot, and these are retarded feeble transexuals on hrt with amholes, but it really doesnt matter if your planning on using a shotgun, or semi auto rifle/battle rifle with a 20+ round magazine in the context of being like under a hundred yards (especially with a select fire rifle), or a large caliber (but still practical) rifle like .30-06 in which case you dont need to worry about anything really

BUT if your autistic enough and spent enough to have a vast spy network and 10,000 cameras and manage drag your 40 pound .50 cal that you practice with regularly a mile behind behind your opposing 300 man strong transexual army financed directly by soros with the best combat and dilation equipment getting ready to lay seige to the kiwi cow Führer bunker of autism on your 3000 acre property then I guess that would be a pretty good idea to buy a pretty impractical gun like a barrett m82 to not have to worry about not scoring a kill on the first center mass hit from long range
Most people buy very large calibers/cannons like .50 cals or greater not for property/home defense but as a militia member, as a toy, or as a colletable. I dont think there are many cases of .50 caliber home defense cases. But im also not gonna sit here and say its not a cool and iconic gun though tbh
 
Null said:
I have absolutely no idea why people are saying the mentally ill, suicidal, ex military retards with nothing to lose and no family to live absolutely positively will never even consider level 4 plates.
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Dissenting opinion: I think 50 cal is not a bad idea in this situation
 
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