Mega Rad Gun Thread

[Badungus Kabungus]

So, Chris was conceal carrying a full sized pistol all this time?!
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Wouldn't put it past him, the crazy bastard.

More like these fine young urban gentlemen. Ideally you'd have a small holster inside there to protect the trigger.


It's not a new concept, back in Russia in the 90s it was pretty popular with the local criminal element, except instead of a fanny pack it was called a "barsetka." Not to glamorize crime or anything, but a good idea is a good idea.

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

Fellow Kiwis, I plan on going backpacking through my local state forest but I need a recommendation for something to concealed carry. The woods here are relatively safe but it's not unheard of to discover murder victims or encounter drugged up vagrants so I was thinking of getting a small revolver. Never shot 38 or 357 so I'm not sure which is a better self-defense round and what models are comfortable enough to carry loose in a pant or jacket pocket. I see a Rock Island Armory M206 in 38 and a Taurus 605 in 357, both pretty cheap but they could be pieces of shit for all I know. I'm new to carrying in general and I don't want to bring my bigass G17, any info would help

A little Stainless steel S&W Model 60 has you covered. If that's too much.... Hmm I'd go Rock Island over Taurus.

Carrying it... If you have stout pockets a pocket holster is a ok.

Or a crossbody bag / fanny pack is also a great idea.

Don't carry loose, even if you don't care about safety it could get lost. Even with zippers, guns are pretty heavy and could break the zipper, but probably less likely if it's a truly small revolver. Also, you draw time's going to be horrible. If you already have a Glock, could you spend money on a good holster for it?

Yep. Loose carrying a gun in a pocket is... Not a good idea. Pocket carry = pocket holster.

A crossbody bag is a good idea as long as it's snug to the body and isn't easy to pull away/steal, same as a Fanny pack.

Both of those are pretty damn inconspicuous especially hiking.

 

[AGPinochet]

Fairfax (Virginia) Police with an MP-7 and a really short LWRC (possibly in .300 Blackout), both guns are equipped with Delta P Suppressors


Ukrainian PKT Conversion


Wilcox Fusion AMP Powered rail, allows for the powering of lights and lasers with no pesky wires


You thought the stuff we had today was stupid and gimmicky, well you've never heard of the Stock Pivot Adapter from AR-Master


Captured AN-94 in Ukraine, the era in which this picture was taken is unclear and it is also unclear whether this is a functional example or a Dewat/demilled example used for civillian weapons familiarization done by the group the watermark belongs to


A swedish guy has taken the guts of an HK SL6 roller delayed semi auto hunting rifle (which a variant of, the SL6A2, has a 2 round burst mechanism but is a civilian hunting rifle?) and turned it into an AR with essentially custom everything


A whole lot more pictures can be found in these links

https://old.reddit.com/r/ForgottenWeapons/comments/1dr89ru/its_preforgotten/

https://old.reddit.com/r/ForgottenWeapons/comments/1ds97xu/hk_630sl6_modernized/

CAD Rendering of what was supposed to be cased telescoped 5.56 round (supposed to be able to fire a "lightweight" projectile at around 2kfps at 36k PSI ) to be fired out of a modified Ruger Redhawk by CunCAD Dev Nikolai Romanov


I say was supposed to be because now he's talking about a more DIY design that he claims will allow Rifle pressures to be achieved. The ammunition is going to be a printed body with aluminum endcaps


I have no Idea if any of this stuff will actually work but if it does it will be very cool, and probably the first revolver thingy to ever use CT Ammunition.

Possibly the most in depth English language video on the AKV-521 in existence, and from the owner of Sureshot Armament no less.

Curiously, the video claims that there are only 7 521 series guns in civilian hands in Russia.

Very curious and forgotten rifle, Uses a URX4 Handguard (which is notable, because that would make these guys the only people KAC ever acted as an OEM for in that regard to my knowledge) and has a trilug mounting system for its suppressor(which is also unique for a .300 Blackout as Trilugs are not really suited for rifle cartridges.

More Pistols with More comps, There was also recently a new Comped Hellcat offering from Springfield. Compensators are to un-suppressed pistols as Flash Hiders are to un-suppressed rifles

I have found a very interesting blog, A machinegun enthusiast has detailed his various experiments with his firearms and in particular his efforts to make them smoother and more enjoyable to shoot
In this post he goes over his effort to make his FA AR have a recoil impulse like that of the Ultimax 100 (or even the KAC LAMG but everyone in the context of Constant recoil always refers to the Ultimax because there are like 100 LAMG's in existence) which Jim Sullivan designed to employ "Constant recoil"

https://archive.ph/sj5RG

He was able to get an 11.5 mid gas gun to fire at 498 rpm
Comparison to the VLTOR A5 system to the Tubb Flatwire spring

https://archive.ph/P3LrC

Two articles on converting a CMMG RDB to have a fixed ejector and a CMMG Dissent to no longer be bufferless

https://archive.ph/35kVI

https://archive.ph/k2SH4

His youtube channel where all the slowmo footage mentioned in the article is posted

https://www.youtube.com/@c3junkie/videos

 

[BikeLock]

Wouldn't put it past him, the crazy bastard.

More like these fine young urban gentlemen. Ideally you'd have a small holster inside there to protect the trigger.
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It's not a new concept, back in Russia in the 90s it was pretty popular with the local criminal element, except instead of a fanny pack it was called a "barsetka." Not to glamorize crime or anything, but a good idea is a good idea.

Real easy to hide one of those Raider X PDW's (or a glock with a switch, lul) in a bag like that.

Edit: Once upon a time I had a 3rd Gen G17C. I'm kind of sad that I got rid of it now that comps are coming back into style, lul.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Real easy to hide one of those Raider X PDW's (or a glock with a switch, lul) in a bag like that.

Edit: Once upon a time I had a 3rd Gen G17C. I'm kind of sad that I got rid of it now that comps are coming back into style, lul.

I'm partial to this bag. https://www.mysteryranch.com/hip-monkey?quantity=1&color=Black
It's roomier than a typical fanny pack, can fit a tourniquet and few spare mags easily.

And now everyone knows that if they see any urban fellas with a crossbody bag like that, most likely they're packing.

 

[Rent Tin]

Even family not into firearms has pointed out people with cross body bags as having guns. Just because nobody calls you out over it doesn't mean it isn't glaringly obvious. My biggest pet peeve with CCW communities is not recognizing that 90% of people that see you are packing will not do anything about it. It doesn't mean they can't see it.

For hiking it can be a great choice, especially because you want mobility around your hips.

All other places? Don't bother with a crossbody bag unless you want to be screaming "THERE IS A GUN IN THIS BAG".

 

[Club Sandwich]

How much do you sell Hornaday Critical Defense for?

$45 per box of 50, or $850 for 1000 if it's the 135gr. 115gr is slightly cheaper at $40/50 and $800/1000. note that i do not sell ammo to the general public.

Ranges and LGSs are so greedy it's criminal

i mean, when i ran a retail gun store instead of just a service center/shop, there are a lot of fixed costs involved over and above regulatory costs and costs of goods sold that need to be paid somehow and before going into various fees that are more difficult to predict (at least in my state due to constant new laws that require money to be compliant). businesses generally don't go into business to lose money and using "gouging" as a colloquial term for bad pricing policies rubs me the wrong way. guns are already fairly low margin outside of bespoke stuff, so for retail stores it's generally consumables and accessories that make up the actual profit. regulatory fees are also a separate beast: in CA i don't have a choice on charging $37.19 for a transfer - that's a regulatory requirement. few states are that bad, but just an example.

out here ranges have some pretty onerous property management costs as well since it's fire, insurance, manning, lead cleanup, and general property maintenance especially if they have a clubhouse or store or something to sell targets or ammo or rent out guns which can require an FFL in and of itself.

while i can sympathize with gun owners feeling the squeeze, i also know what it's like on the other side of the counter. in extreme cases (and with certain asshole gunstore owners i know of) they have either trouble adapting to competing with online pricing and changing their business model to just giving up and shutting down. to them, they feel like the "landlord" part of "landlord isn't a real job" that some activists push out. online shopping isn't going away, so it's on them to adapt and either increase the value of their services, or reduce their costs.

i opted to reduce my costs and closed the retail store to become purely a service center for agencies and some larger security/defense contract stuff, and just run bespoke work from my personal workshop where the margin is much higher because the value to the customer is more on expertise, labor, and specialized skills/tools than being a vendor for random cleaning supplies or ammo.

 

[Bassomatic]

Im sure you're probably too smart to dox yourself to us retarded band of gun fans but, aside from being very thankful for your help id gladly have you service anything I break (trust me I'd put your kids through college and pay for your boat I'm kinda retarded).

 

[Heather Mason 2]

I never even considered using a crossbody bag, there's so much wisdom in the youth that goes overlooked sometimes. I'll go with that option for now and stick to my G17 since I'm comfortable with it, thanks all

 

[Club Sandwich]

Im sure you're probably too smart to dox yourself to us retarded band of gun fans but, aside from being very thankful for your help id gladly have you service anything I break (trust me I'd put your kids through college and pay for your boat I'm kinda retarded).

to whet your whistle: here's a recent project for a customer: .458 Win Mag BM-59-ish build. just finished making the stock at the mill a few days ago and will trim it down and be fabricating and fitting metal and making some custom pieces as needed ("BM-59" basically by cloning existing parts for the M14 style stock where it's required). it'll be an "international" style stock with the barrel and compensator right at the end of the stock and sticking out just a few inches. a tool will be needed for the gas cylinder, which i'll be swapping for a modified M60E4 short gas cylinder to keep pressures at or under 46,000 psi. i added the selector notch for a dummy selector by customer request.

 

[Dean Pentel]

Gun bros, check out this YouTube video and let me know what you think. I've only handled pistol caliber roller delayed stuff. Interesting stuff.

 

[WhoBusTank69]

Gun bros, check out this YouTube video and let me know what you think. I've only handled pistol caliber roller delayed stuff. Interesting stuff.

Looks too much like an AR for me to be interested and I still don't like how everything has to have a fucking buffer tube for stocks. The G3 is only as interesting as its outward aesthetic since roller delay is not great in the grand scheme of things even overlooking destroying ejected brass.

 

[Samhain]

Every LGS in my area charges at least $25 per transfer. The one I was going to for a while charged $30, which I was fine with because my other option was $25 but the guy who runs the place *and* his employees are all assholes. However, the last time I went in to pick up something, I noticed they'd raised the fee from $30 to $50. Fuck that. I got my item and immediately started looking around for options. Found a new place that has free transfers (even for NFA items) that had opened up a while back, and I've been going there ever since. I bought my G45 there even though it was a little more expensive than some of the online prices just to show my appreciation. $50 for a transfer is fucking robbery.

Fairfax (Virginia) Police with an MP-7 and a really short LWRC (possibly in .300 Blackout), both guns are equipped with Delta P Suppressors

That MP7 looks well-loved.

Don't bother with a crossbody bag unless you want to be screaming "THERE IS A GUN IN THIS BAG".

Same goes for the guys with comically large backpacks for their SBRs. They always pick extremely obvious brands like LBT or Grey Ghost Gear, too. And no, that Vertx bag that's popular with guys who have a LAW folder on their MK18 aren't fooling anyone either.

 

[Club Sandwich]

Gun bros, check out this YouTube video and let me know what you think. I've only handled pistol caliber roller delayed stuff. Interesting stuff.

i've been an H&K armorer for many years, i might pick one or two up for trying out. roller delay is pressure sensitive and minute changes in wear and ammunition powder, even bullet weight can significantly alter the efficiency and reliability of the action in H&K firearms. i'd be curious the exact implementation. also in my experience, roller delay is rough in extraction with rim tears if your bolt gap is out of spec which results in early unlocking or excessive bolt carrier velocity. the "ding" it gives brass is more that there isn't any gentle shell deflector on most H&K rifles, and a port buffer is seen as a bit of a waste.

also what's the advantage of a ZF-56 over an HK33/HK93/C93/PTR93/whatever build with a magazine conversion kit (which can be fabricated and was an available kit when H&K still did roller delay rifles) and there's some alternate "AR-15" friendly trigger housings on the market as well. looks weird but has the look/feel of a typical AR-15 grip like Aeroknox, Lee Sporting's Trigger Group, Magpul, et c

They always pick extremely obvious brands like LBT or Grey Ghost Gear, too.

i prefer JanSport or a beat up gym bag. easy to have some polyurethane foam and velcro to hold things in place.

 

[LemonParty]

Fellow Kiwis, I plan on going backpacking through my local state forest but I need a recommendation for something to concealed carry. The woods here are relatively safe but it's not unheard of to discover murder victims or encounter drugged up vagrants so I was thinking of getting a small revolver. Never shot 38 or 357 so I'm not sure which is a better self-defense round and what models are comfortable enough to carry loose in a pant or jacket pocket. I see a Rock Island Armory M206 in 38 and a Taurus 605 in 357, both pretty cheap but they could be pieces of shit for all I know. I'm new to carrying in general and I don't want to bring my bigass G17, any info would help

You don't need to conceal a weapon in a federal/state park. Open carry. If I recall even California let's you open a carry a pistol on federal and state land,

Think about it like this. If you can legally open carry a rifle to hunt then why can't you carry a pistol? Strangely enough most states are more generous with open carry then concealed carry.

 

[Club Sandwich]

even California let's you open a carry a pistol on federal and state land,

federal yes, but not state (legally) after to Jan 1, 2024. after Jan 1, 2024, state restrictions now apply to all locations physically within CA state borders that is public land or where general public accommodation applies, which includes most BLM land in the state that is not explicitly federally controlled.

this is poorly enforced generally, however depending on where and when you go, there are a lot of busybodies that like to annoy park service or county sheriffs with calls on the emergency line about "man with gun waving it around threateningly" when it's a guy open carrying his skeet gun to the BLM range. after enough calls they'll usually ask the person to stow the gun and do something else, leave, or they'll shut down the entire park because local LE doesn't have time for a hundred calls that all go to the handful of patrol officers for the sector.

 

[LemonParty]

federal yes, but not state (legally) after to Jan 1, 2024. after Jan 1, 2024, state restrictions now apply to all locations physically within CA state borders that is public land or where general public accommodation applies, which includes most BLM land in the state that is not explicitly federally controlled.

this is poorly enforced generally, however depending on where and when you go, there are a lot of busybodies that like to annoy park service or county sheriffs with calls on the emergency line about "man with gun waving it around threateningly" when it's a guy open carrying his skeet gun to the BLM range. after enough calls they'll usually ask the person to stow the gun and do something else, leave, or they'll shut down the entire park because local LE doesn't have time for a hundred calls that all go to the handful of patrol officers for the sector.

Madness. So can lefty states not hunt state parks anymore during deer season?

 

[mrfresh]

Every LGS in my area charges at least $25 per transfer. The one I was going to for a while charged $30, which I was fine with because my other option was $25 but the guy who runs the place *and* his employees are all assholes. However, the last time I went in to pick up something, I noticed they'd raised the fee from $30 to $50. Fuck that. I got my item and immediately started looking around for options. Found a new place that has free transfers (even for NFA items) that had opened up a while back, and I've been going there ever since. I bought my G45 there even though it was a little more expensive than some of the online prices just to show my appreciation. $50 for a transfer is fucking robbery.

The place closest to me is 50 for a transfer and 25 for a background check if your doing a private sale or if the original seller did not do one.

 

[Club Sandwich]

So can lefty states not hunt state parks anymore during deer season?

correct. CA national parks (as in, federal jurdisdiction but physically in CA's borders), private hunting grounds, CA hunting grounds controlled by CA fish and game, and on native reservations are the currently allowed hunting grounds for game animals. fur bearing has some different maps, and upland game like waterfowl or pheasant, et c are controlled by fisheries which does allow it on/in/near water (including lakes, rivers, bays, et c) with a valid hunting permit and there are additional rules as well (no lead containing ammunition, et c).

note the exception is specific for what i mentioned above. unlike other states there are no "open hunting ground/land" in CA at all.

 

[Heavy Galaxy]

How bad is my poor person load-out for the coming shitworld