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Was Hitler killed with a Glock? No? Then how good are they really?
 
Alright, the reason I was looking at that S&W M&P was you guys told me that is a good rifle, and the listing said “OR CA COMPLIANT” in bold letters. There’s only so much I can do here when I’m walking on landmines of shit ass cheap guns. But I am trying and I’m at least following your advice on what not to get, that’s why I’m asking about each rifle.
 
Alright, the reason I was looking at that S&W M&P was you guys told me that is a good rifle, and the listing said “OR CA COMPLIANT” in bold letters. There’s only so much I can do here when I’m walking on landmines of shit ass cheap guns. But I am trying and I’m at least following your advice on what not to get, that’s why I’m asking about each rifle.
I think they just got a little inflamed cause they wanted to stress to you not to buy a CA compliant rifle if you're not in California. California forces guns to be neutered and uncomfortable to use so you want to stay away from that.
 
Hi-point firearms is a based company that makes great guns for broke niggas, the only people that hate on them are reddit tier homosexuals who dont have the testosterone to shoot a literal brick that cost 99 cents, if you dont have the balls and swagger to buy a jhp .45 acp gen 2 for under 200 dollars and run an 1100$ supressor and hit bullseyes with it dont @ me

This thread is now hi-point gang-gang territory all other posters will be considered to have pantaloons filled with shit
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Alright, the reason I was looking at that S&W M&P was you guys told me that is a good rifle
Its not a bad rifle (in its non ca compliant form) but most people seem to be concerned more with your financial decisions on financing the gun and pricing ethics, you have plenty of time to save up for a rifle even if its like 50 dollars a month. Especially with trump basically having the election won already you wont have to worry about price increases, transexual anti josh hordes swarming you, bans, ect.
With california compliance rifles they always put a salad bar sneeze guard grip, 10 round magazine, and a dam magazine release that requires a tool to release, it will not be something your gonna want long term, it would especially suck for you having to spend more money to fix those things

Psa has regular sales for fully built rifles under 500 dollars though (their website is pretty good for selectable catagories as well), has ship to ffl shipping direct on website ect. (Not to shill psa as there are other companies that are good like that, also ALWAYS wait for a sale if your buying online) the one below I found is 500 dollars fully built ready to shoot (sales like these are frequent and you can get them for less)

You can also do layaway sometimes at local gunstores if your interested, I did that once a long time ago and they didnt charge me intrest or anything which I think most small places would do something like that if you dont mind paying a bit extra buying direct from the store
 
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I'm a Glock guy myself. I always recommend Glocks first thing whenever someone's looking for their first pistol, but I also recommend people look at S&W M&P 2.0, Walther PDP, CZ, and Canik as well. Glocks aren't for everyone. I'm not big on recommending Sigs, but the various P365 models meet some people's needs, and I guess not every P320 will go off on its own, if someone really wants one for whatever reason.
 
Alright, the reason I was looking at that S&W M&P was you guys told me that is a good rifle, and the listing said “OR CA COMPLIANT” in bold letters. There’s only so much I can do here when I’m walking on landmines of shit ass cheap guns. But I am trying and I’m at least following your advice on what not to get, that’s why I’m asking about each rifle.
rifle: https://aimsurplus.com/products/leo-trade-in-rock-river-arms-16in-pinned-223556-lar-ar15-rifle-black
rifle alternate: https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa...-moe-ept-rifle-with-rear-mbus-5165458949.html

LEO trade-in, credova compatible if you need the payment plan. it's a standard 5.59x45mm AR-15 without any weird compliant parts or proprietary parts that might require special tool, includes sling swivels and iron sights so you don't need to buy sights immediately, it's a 14.5" barrel (same as an M4 you're familiar with) with a pinned (and silver soldered, so non-removable) flash hider to bring it up to the legal 16" minimum. has a standard quad rail for accessories if you want. might need some cleaning and a magazine which use any normal M16 magazines you like (Magpul highly recommended, but the typical aluminum surplus mags generally work fine).

Rock River has a pretty long history of law enforcement sales and service. for PSA, it's a perfectly fine rifle, with some questions sometimes, but PSA is pretty good if you have problems. their site doesn't have a credova option. the mid-length is a little softer shooting than the carbine, but otherwise it's a reasonable alternative for a new rifle vs a police trade in.

magazines: https://aimsurplus.com/products/dur...d-aluminum-magazine-gray-with-orange-follower

if you were prior service, Okay Industries/Surefeed, Adventureline, and Center were the ones we used. Center doesn't really sell outside of contracts and adventureline is long dead. Okay Ind (Surefeed brand) is still around and Duramag/ASC/CProducts are perfectly reliable as standard 30 round mags.

for a pistol if you want to go down that route and know how to shoot a pistol reasonably well (and have more experience than the M9 quals), then a Glock LEO trade in is hard to beat for the quality/price ratio. prefer 9x19mm.
 
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Yes but then you have to rack the slide every time. I’m not worried about breaking my gun from dry fire, I’m wanting to train multiple trigger pulls without racking the slide every time. It’s not the trigger weight that makes the gun move, it’s the act of moving the trigger
I get what you're saying and want to point out pulling the trigger in dry fire isn't strictly necessary after you've learned its mechanics.

I used to use "prep/sights/press" (prep the trigger to the wall, align the sights, press through to the break). That got me to B class in USPSA.

Then I started really honing my grip and sight alignment to the point I can now simply pull the trigger straight back. By focusing on always having a solid grip that doesn't alter the sights as my trigger finger moves, my shooting became more efficient. I made master in CO. Still B in production but haven't shot that in a good bit.

I'm writing all this because I believe that if one's grip is properly executed and they understand good sight alignment, it's rather hard to fuck up shots. At that point pulling the trigger in dry fire is less fruitful. Save multiple trigger pulls for live fire as an assessment of what needs work.

Just my opinion, mind you.
 
Okay doesn't manufacture Surefeeds anymore. As far as I'm aware, most people consider Duramag to be the next best metal mag manufacturer. I've always just used PMAGs.

This PSA option is only $550 right now.
very sad, Surefeeds have been excellent mags for decades. i'm guessing CT just isn't economical for that sort of manufacturing anymore combined with actual military authorization for Magpuls. i generally keep Duramags and stainless steel CProducts in my vest but have had a lot of success with Lancers too.
 
Alright, the reason I was looking at that S&W M&P was you guys told me that is a good rifle, and the listing said “OR CA COMPLIANT” in bold letters. There’s only so much I can do here when I’m walking on landmines of shit ass cheap guns. But I am trying and I’m at least following your advice on what not to get, that’s why I’m asking about each rifle.
DS Arms dude. $200 extra for total peace of mind and a substantially better rifle.
 
I'm a Glock guy myself. I always recommend Glocks first thing whenever someone's looking for their first pistol, but I also recommend people look at S&W M&P 2.0, Walther PDP, CZ, and Canik as well. Glocks aren't for everyone. I'm not big on recommending Sigs, but the various P365 models meet some people's needs, and I guess not every P320 will go off on its own, if someone really wants one for whatever reason.
Personally I'm thinking about a S&W M&P 2.0 in 40 cal for my 40 cal choice if I don't go the SD40VE route. I'm a Smith fan, they were my first pistol and I like the quality. For 9mm it's a Beretta, it's just a classic, a classy one.

I've shot Glocks, they shoot fine. They are just boring. If I'm shelling out already, I want something that fits me, something with lines, something sexy. Glock isn't me. This is:
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I want something that looks like more than a brick, and arguably has some improvements over the Glock design. That and it's not Austrian. It's American. Yes, I am the kind of guy that WILL pay more to support American workers and a American company like Smith and Wesson, that continues to innovate and make new shit. They just came out with a lever action- they haven't done that since the 1800's. What new shit has Glock done?
 
As Americans we have the luxury of choice yet some people latch on to one single brand and make it their life. I like to call these people retards.
 
As Americans we have the luxury of choice yet some people latch on to one single brand and make it their life. I like to call these people retards.
I know man. I showed my guns recently: I got a Smith revolver(American), a Franchi bolt action(Italian), and a Nornico (Chinese) SKS. Each one is a different experience and have their pros and cons.
 
Personally I'm all in on the try hard philosophy of "One nice AR, one nice Glock" before you should start being picky or romantic.

I feel like I blew a lot of money early on on safe queens. My 1911 is my favorite pistol in my favorite caliber. I hardly shoot it. I feel more fullfilled training I guess.

I suppose it all depends on what a new person entering the hobby is trying to get out of it.
 
Personally I'm all in on the try hard philosophy of "One nice AR, one nice Glock" before you should start being picky or romantic.
I like to think of the M4gery/Glock combo as the legal Yeet Cannon pair where if either are used in a legal confrontation you don't have to stress if you never get them back from the cops because they're plain and replaceable.
 
Personally I'm thinking about a S&W M&P 2.0 in 40 cal for my 40 cal choice if I don't go the SD40VE route. I'm a Smith fan, they were my first pistol and I like the quality. For 9mm it's a Beretta, it's just a classic, a classy one.

I've shot Glocks, they shoot fine. They are just boring. If I'm shelling out already, I want something that fits me, something with lines, something sexy. Glock isn't me. This is:
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I want something that looks like more than a brick, and arguably has some improvements over the Glock design. That and it's not Austrian. It's American. Yes, I am the kind of guy that WILL pay more to support American workers and a American company like Smith and Wesson, that continues to innovate and make new shit. They just came out with a lever action- they haven't done that since the 1800's. What new shit has Glock done?
As a gun Autist, the Glock shares one VERY GOOD thing with the 1911 in common, which is something that other pistol manufacturers SHOULD follow, but rarely don't.

Near toolless disassembly.

You can completely strip a Glock with nothing but a paper clip to move trigger group plastic pin out of the grip, and a small screwdriver to compress the striker a bit to remove the rear plate from the slide.

Glock got this completely correct, and I'm tired of pretending that its not. That fact alone makes the Glock one of the best "McPistols" out there for non-gun people, as a deadlined one can easily be fixed by anyone with basic mechanical skills. If you can fix a sink, you can fix a Glock. The Toyota Corolla of defensive handguns. It's not sexy, it doesn't have the greatest trigger, and unfortunately, due to how polymer and physics work, a poor choice if you have a weak grip despite their size. That being said, just about every other McPistol (Polymer/striker fired gun, you can get one pretty much anywhere, like a good mushroom and swiss...) suffers from similar issues, and fall around the same price range.

I have both a 5946 and a Gen 4 G19 (among other pistols). The 5946 is a precision manufactured chunk of stainless steel, with a slide that glides along the frame like it was on a bearing, and a very nice, short, smooth DA pull that feels a lot like my 586 DA trigger. A very nice gun that is very pleasant to shoot, if a little tricky at first with the DA only trigger.

The Glock 19 does everything the 5946 is suppose to do, better. The 5946, while a beautiful handgun, its primary purpose in life was to be a NYPD carry pistol. All a NYPD carry pistol has to do is launch 9mm reliably and sit in a holster all day, which are two things that the Glock absolutely excels at for a cost significantly less than that 5946.

I had an M&P. I didn't like it enough to keep it. I like my VP9 more.
 
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