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If you could bring one discontinued firearm back into production what would it be?
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Mateba Unica 6 Autorevolver.
 
I believe it's still in production, but shipping to the US has been at a standstill since covid.
No, they stopped making them in 2005. There was a lot of rumblings and hype about new production resuming in 2019 but as far as I am aware nothing tangible has come from it.
 
If you look close you can see where the forward assist was in the forging.
It was simply milled off before finishing and anodizing.
It's strange to see that.
The Colt LMG I had in my hands definitely had a FA.
The Colt LMG fires from an open bolt, so FA wouldn’t function.

Eta:

The open bolt gun does not have a forward assist nor does the bolt carrier have the forward assist notches. The reason for the lack of the forward assist mechanism is due the way the gun fires every time the bolt carrier goes forward. If it had a forward assist, its use forcing the carrier forward would result in the gun firing with the assist pawl engaged with the carrier. This would have been dangerous for the gun and the user.
 
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The Colt LMG fires from an open bolt, so FA wouldn’t function.

Eta:

The open bolt gun does not have a forward assist nor does the bolt carrier have the forward assist notches. The reason for the lack of the forward assist mechanism is due the way the gun fires every time the bolt carrier goes forward. If it had a forward assist, its use forcing the carrier forward would result in the gun firing with the assist pawl engaged with the carrier. This would have been dangerous for the gun and the user.
I know they are open bolt, I've had one in my hands and seen the inside of one with my own eyes.
The example I saw had a FA, there was no pawl on it but it was there.
It is a very odd gun.
 
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i imported (and sold) some Unica and MTR parts and tools, as i have a Unica 6 Hunter and was interested (at the time) of becoming an importer for Tanfoglio's line of steel CZ-based frames for my own pistol-making ideas rather than enter to very crowded Glock and 1911 space. unfortunately after some successful orders i was told that there was a change in ownership and the export license would be renewed under the new company and owner who had apparently bought out the previous management team with VC and crypto cash. unfortunately that cash dried up and the VC took their ball once they had a big enough return, so the current state of the company is in bad, complete with violation of Italian firearms export and manufacturing laws as well as some finance stuff going on regarding scams/fraud with banks or laundering or something possibly crypto related.

very sad situation.
The example I saw had a FA, their was no pawl on it but it was there.
i have put hands on both a pre-sales Diemaco LSW, early Colt model 606A, and production Colt model 750's and none of them had an FA of any kind, only the shell deflector. a Dutch export version sold by Diemaco as the LOAW did have the FA present, although it wasn't functional. the Colt model 950 (now the Colt Automatic Rifle) also lacked the FA, but the LOAW had it. i assume it's a cost saving measure of some sort, since having a button pinned in place or non-functional is inexpensive vs having a split production line for finish machining. note that both Diemaco and Colt make the LSW/LMG variation and Diemaco has a license that allows both production and export as well as changes, so my assumption is that Diemaco kept the FA and just made it non-functional, while Colt had varying ways of deleting it entirely.

found pics:
Dutch LOAW manufactured by Colt Canada / Diemaco:
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Diemaco C7 LSW (note the FA is present):
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Colt 750 / M16A2 LMG (SAW project submission iirc):
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Colt XM106:
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Colt 606 "HBAR":
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I have an oddly specific question but...

...What  two guns (used by two people simultaneously) for home defense/general range training would be better than  one great gun by one person for the same general price point? I don't have lots of cash but I do have friends, and I'd rather have a trusty battle buddy than a tacticool gun if things ever get kinetic.
 
Sorry the photo was taken with a potato but this is literally the one I saw.
it's really hard to tell from that photo, but if you put hands on it and it had a non-functional FA, it's a bit weird.

usually the Colt-made LMG's had the target sights (from the M16A2/Colt 701) but lacked a forward assist entirely, either it was milled off the forging or it was entirely absent from the forging, leaving only the shell deflector. Diemaco typically had the combat sights (the simpler XM16 / Colt 601 sights) but retained the FA, albeit non-functional. when the C7 LSW was adopted by Canada the carry handle and sights were eliminated and replaced with an accessory rail for the C79 optic as it was together with the C7A1 rifle as part of a joint program with Colt at the time (which resulted in the M16A2 LMG as a member of the Colt Automatic Rifle, or CAR, product line). the Colt 950 also did this.

it's a little odd to see a C7 LSW with the carry handle as to my knowledge, zero were ever produced - so maybe it's either a prototype or very early rifle, or someone made a clone or something.

brand new in box 1986 Colt M16A2 LMG, notice the FA has been milled off the upper:
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I met a guy through work that is an FFL and he’s supposedly selling “NVGs and thermals”.

1.) is there any reason to own NVGs or thermals if you’re just a retard who goes to the range to shoot paper or to the desert to shoot steel? If you don’t go hunting in low light conditions, is it basically another “gucci” item to buy to flex on the poorfags?
2.) how legitimate of a proposition does that sound like? I remember reading somewhere on here that high quality NVGs aren’t cheap and the technology for Made in USA ones are proprietary secret squirrel shit.

Guy said he supposedly “has a buddy” that works for a manufacturer in the state that he moved here from. It could all be bullshit but I know there’s posters ITT far more knowledgeable than me about that stuff.
 
1.) is there any reason to own NVGs or thermals if you’re just a retard who goes to the range to shoot paper or to the desert to shoot steel? If you don’t go hunting in low light conditions, is it basically another “gucci” item to buy to flex on the poorfags?
if you don't do anything in low or no light, they're largely an expensive toy. same for the matching illuminators, lasers, or accessories.
2.) how legitimate of a proposition does that sound like? I remember reading somewhere on here that high quality NVGs aren’t cheap and the technology for Made in USA ones are proprietary secret squirrel shit.
you don't need an FFL to deal in PVS (be it thermal or light amplifying). good PVS these days start at $3k-4k for a cheaper ATN PVS-14 and scale up. some beat up gulf war stuff a bit cheaper. a PVS-7 or clone is around $2.5k in very good used condition, for example, and doable at under $1k for the cheapest thermal optic that's worth using (i don't recommend this, but it's possible for the sometimes pest controller or hunter). my own PVS i'm confident in my ability to use for serious fighting wass around $7k for everything.
Guy said he supposedly “has a buddy” that works for a manufacturer in the state that he moved here from.
i kinda don't like this answer because stolen gear is a felony waiting to happen, and PVS are export controlled items (ITAR). either get clarification and concrete paperwork or gamble on catching a felony.
 
LOL, those are stolen. a good set of NV starts at 3k and goes from there.
i kinda don't like this answer because stolen gear is a felony waiting to happen, and PVS are export controlled items (ITAR). either get clarification and concrete paperwork or gamble on catching a felony.
That’s mostly what I was thinking too. Good catch on the ITAR regulation status though, @Club Sandwich . That’s probably what I was thinking towards the end of my last post.

I really have no need for NVG or thermals, I was just wondering if my “this sounds too good to be true” gut feeling was right. The guy never said any specific dollar figures but for a “garage FFL”, there’s still plenty of room for grey area fuckery there and I like to stay out of trouble and keep my nose clean.
 
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