Mega Rad Gun Thread

[SHIGGSHOGG]

does anyone know if the old G.I. trick of cutting a X into ball ammo actually works? if so, then that is something you could do if down bad.

On pistols it's not super awesome, just because there's not enough force to make shallow slashes do very much.
On the other hand, filing the tip off a FMJ rifle bullet to expose lead is essentially making a shitty OTM, which is basically just a micro hollow point. The more you file the crazier it gets though, so past a point you'd be doing more harm than good with no penetration and a massive entry.
I wouldn't suggest it if you're even thinking about barriers, but for soft targets only it'd be alright. Again, if you're down bad and don't have a better option since this doesn't help accuracy.

 

[Foley]

The Magpul Pmag and better followers on metal mags essentially fixed 99% of issues with STANAGs

Sort of. The fundamental design of the magwell and release is still "an issue". "An issue" in quotations because it's not really that big of a deal, if it was it would've been changed already. But like I said, a latch style of release would be more robust.

STANAG is so widespread today that the sheer economy of scale makes it easy to accept the "flaws" in the design.

 

[WelperHelper99]

it was a hold over from the M16A2 carbine project. the M4A1 returned back to offering full auto, but since 90% of the time we were shooting semi anyway it wasn't a big deal unless you really needed to achieve fire superiority - and that wasn't even the job of someone with a carbine anyway. since the carbine was so versatile and hit the right size, weight, compatibility, and price it became a bit of a defacto cool guy gun instead of bespoke spooky stuff that was in some cases too specialized. maybe the M4 wasn't the best at everything, but short of walking around with a couple fire teams with a longer logistical train to have a bunch of specialized tools for different situations it was an awful lot nicer to carry a carbine and kind of do most things well and have only one or two specialists with you. you can also rather easily bolt stuff onto an M4 in many ways (gangster grips, clamps for lights or optics, et c) for mission specific situations.

i used the gangster grip with a slightly cut down A2 grip for a long time since it pre-dated the RIS, and when some cool guys showed us the ARMS swan sleeve and SIR system, i made sure to snag that. i still have mine even after my service since i bought that with my own money

I like the feedback honestly. I've been interested in the M4 for years tbh.

After having held my fair share of rifles over the years, AR's included, I am a fan of the 20 inch barrel profile, be it a AR or my SKS. But it's interesting hearing why people like shortie rifles. I know it's good for vehicles, easier to dismount a bradley than a 20 inch M16. You brought up mounting rails. I know the M16A4 had rail space.

Did you ever use the A4, any opinions on it? Personally when I finally break for a AR, I want it to either be a A2 or A4 clone. Gives me the 20 inch heavy barrel and a classic feel.

The people in charge of military small arms are some of the dumbest people on the planet.

You have to understand the people running the projects will never actually use the weapons that will be delivered. Their only goal is to look good managing the project. End result idiotic weapon after idiotic weapon.

I mean that's how we got the XM7. It should be a DMR, but they're trying to force it on everyone as a main rifle. That's how I see the 3 round burst on early M4's. It saves ammo or something, so they put it in, not thinking there would be spray and pray situations.

 

[WelperHelper99]

so i finally broke down and bought me a russian made SKS. i had to get it through my head that my dream of seeing the prices on them drop back down is long dead and gay. i got it for a decent prioce and it was in very good shape. i am happy with it.

for ammo i shot ATS brand 7.62x39 and was impressed with it. it shot well and was pretty clean compared to some ammo ive shot. found it here: 540 rounds for $264 and free shipping. which i think is a decent price for what i consider to be pretty good ammo.


i also got to experience another 'douchebags with expensive guns who cant shoot' at the range today.
when i was at the range with it, i was shooting next to two guys who had very expensive AR setups. they had nice precision stocks and a nice scope on one and a nice red dot on the other. they also sucked at shooting. this range has steel targets set up at 100 yards. in between shooting my rifle i paid attention to their shooting and they missed those targets far more than they should while i was hitting them pretty consistently with my iron sights on a 70 year old rifle (though i did miss a few times, but it was far less than those guys did.)

once more, buying expensive gear doesn't make you good at shooting, it just makes you a zero skill douchebag with a gun way too expensive for your skill level.


overall i am pretty happy with my new rifle. the SKS is such a great rifle.


coincidentally when i was getting my SKS transferred there was a guy there buying a deagle.

Sorry for the double post, but as a SKS guy, glad you got in. Yeah the cheap SKS days are dead. That said there are a lot on the market in good condition. Glad you found one of those and a good supply of ammo. I'll have to look into that. It's a great bump in the night gun. It's not just that it's in 7.62x39mm, it also has a bayonet. Pure intimidation factor.

Amazon has all the accessories you need btw. Getting it into Full milsurp shape with a accurate sling, chest rig, and trapdoor cleaning kit is cheap. Also stripper clips are cheap as fuck. Buy a box of 20 and you're good to go.

 

[Neo-Nazi Rich Evans]

Sorry for the double post, but as a SKS guy, glad you got in. Yeah the cheap SKS days are dead. That said there are a lot on the market in good condition. Glad you found one of those and a good supply of ammo. I'll have to look into that. It's a great bump in the night gun. It's not just that it's in 7.62x39mm, it also has a bayonet. Pure intimidation factor.

Amazon has all the accessories you need btw. Getting it into Full milsurp shape with a accurate sling, chest rig, and trapdoor cleaning kit is cheap. Also stripper clips are cheap as fuck. Buy a box of 20 and you're good to go.

yep, my gun came with a surplus sling already on it. i also bought an east german ammo pouch and a 10 pack of stripper clips,though i feel i need a few more so ill probably buy another pack of them. i dont have it yet, but i also got a buttstock cleaning kit on order. i have one for my ak, and while i never really used it, i like having them for completeness sake.

and yeah, i like the bayonet on it. i always hate seeing the ones where people cut those off. i understand some of it is due to commies in california, but some of it is also the bubba'd guns. i feel the same way with the grenade launching muzzle device on the yugos, i hate seeing those get circumcised.

 

[POWER IN MISERY]

replaced the AP5's weird piccolo dick handguard with the triangle with mlok slots. i don't mind the folding brace but who are we kidding, we need that telescoping stock on there. did magpul stop making their MP5 brace?

 

[EggImpregnator]

This is actually an INSANE deal

https://battlehawkarmory.com/product/used-glock-45-gen-5-9mm-4-barrel-3-magazines-pistol

 

[Dean Pentel]

i've had the best luck with CCI Mini Mags (and for small game Velocitor) are great for sheer reliability and versatility with Eley Tenax for actual repeatable accuracy (in a competition setting).

By coincidence I have a bit of CCI Mini Mags already. I'll order some Velocitor too. I'd never heard of Eley. Rather expensive for a common rimfire round, which I did not expect.

(gangster grips, clamps for lights or optics, et c)

Giving this geriatric those feelz, man.

Did you ever use the A4, any opinions on it? Personally when I finally break for a AR, I want it to either be a A2 or A4 clone. Gives me the 20 inch heavy barrel and a classic feel.

In boot. Clubby, did you feel a bit sad when you had to turn yours back in? Like you knew that rifle, all its numbers, all its scuffs/scratches, how everything felt and sounded when it moved, how badass snapping in felt, how you'd sand that nub off the grip if you could because fuck that thing, etc.

I recommend the A4 clone. I'm all nostalgic for the A2 because it was the first M16 I ever fired (thank you JROTC), but I feel the A4 has more utility. If you opt for a quad rail on yours make sure you get rail covers and keep them on for sections not in use. It's a lot easier than you think to accidentally knock a dent into one of the Pic sections. Probably you won't get yelled at if you do but I'm just sayin'.

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

By coincidence I have a bit of CCI Mini Mags already. I'll order some Velocitor too. I'd never heard of Eley. Rather expensive for a common rimfire round, which I did not expect.

Giving this geriatric those feelz, man.

In boot. Clubby, did you feel a bit sad when you had to turn yours back in? Like you knew that rifle, all its numbers, all its scuffs/scratches, how everything felt and sounded when it moved, how badass snapping in felt, how you'd sand that nub off the grip if you could because fuck that thing, etc.

I recommend the A4 clone. I'm all nostalgic for the A2 because it was the first M16 I ever fired (thank you JROTC), but I feel the A4 has more utility. If you opt for a quad rail on yours make sure you get rail covers and keep them on for sections not in use. It's a lot easier than you think to accidentally knock a dent into one of the Pic sections. Probably you won't get yelled at if you do but I'm just sayin'.

The only A2 group style nub that's actually ok is the one on the FAB AGR-43 as it's actually rubber and kinda soft not hard plastic

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

Sorry for the double post, but as a SKS guy, glad you got in. Yeah the cheap SKS days are dead. That said there are a lot on the market in good condition. Glad you found one of those and a good supply of ammo. I'll have to look into that. It's a great bump in the night gun. It's not just that it's in 7.62x39mm, it also has a bayonet. Pure intimidation factor.

It's hilarious (and sad) how retards think someone with bayonet charges an intruder in your house is suddenly not self defense by the virtue of you confronting them.

Also, I need everyone's greatest shitposts on American built AK failings. My grandfather keeps trying to get me to buy AKs saying that "even an American AK will be forever more reliable than a AR pattern rifle" and that 5.56 is a shit round. I keep telling him US AKs are shit because of 922r and poor worksmanship. He thinks you can just import AKs whole piece as a capture like it was the 60s or something.

I'm tempted to buy a kit gun and convert it into 5.56 or .300 BO just to make him angry. I'm a little more tempted to build a inch FAL though.

Any FAL/L1A1 experienced kiwis? I have a L1A1 that's marked for 7.62x51 but I get weak ejection and it only cycles ok at the 2 setting. The previous owner has. 308 cases in a bag with a box of stuff for it, I was going to buy some and see if that fixes my issues but I find it odd

Is it a Century import? If so make sure it doesn't blow up in your face first.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

 

[WelperHelper99]

It's hilarious (and sad) how retards think someone with bayonet charges an intruder in your house is suddenly not self defense by the virtue of you confronting them.

It's literally a spear. That is ancient self defense. If someone breaks in, you go full force and scare the fuck out of them and hopefully make them fuck up.

 

[74164978231]

Did you ever use the A4, any opinions on it? Personally when I finally break for a AR, I want it to either be a A2 or A4 clone. Gives me the 20 inch heavy barrel and a classic feel.

Carried one of those for a year in Iraq.

Only reason to get one is if you want a GWOT clone rifle. Theres simply no point in a fixed stock and 20 inch barrel unless its a dmr/sniper rifle. Thing was a huge pita wearing body armor and getting in/out of vehicles.

I mean that's how we got the XM7. It should be a DMR, but they're trying to force it on everyone as a main rifle. That's how I see the 3 round burst on early M4's. It saves ammo or something, so they put it in, not thinking there would be spray and pray situations.

Thats just it. They wanted to save ammo but never actually tried using it to see how utterly pointless it was. It was so horrifically pointless that never once during all my training up to and in Iraq incorporated 3 round burst.

 

[wopirish]

Anyone here ever see an old Mauser Geha in person? I picked one up years ago, Its a post WW1 modification of a mauser to fire shotgun shells.

https://www.guns.com/firearms/shotguns/bolt-action/germany-mauser-geha-12-ga-2-rounds-26-5-barrel-used?p=530367&soldout=1

 

[MrShekelstein36]

Hey Clubby, in your experience, who is making excellent .22 LR rounds these days? For plinking or for hunting small game.

Not to just barge in here, but I saw Club's reply and wanted to add, fiocchi has been putting out 22lr ammo and so far I have found it to be excelent in a range of .22lrs, ranging from single shot to full auto. Usually fairly inexpensive at 4 bucks for 50 too. Another decent choice for accuracy though is S&B club ammo. I've found it locally to me for $6 a box. I used it to sight in a buddy's 10/22 then compared it to my 10/22 I sighted in with SK rifle match and was pleasantly surprised that they shot near identical groups (about 1/6th inch larger for the SB at 50yds). As far as ammo to avoid, I am not a fan of aguila (although Club Sandwich seems to have good luck with it), but for sure, avoid the armscorp 22hv. That stuff is both dirty and not consistently loaded. Was playing with some last night and today and was getting a spread on the chrony from 1008 to 1431 from the same squired bingham .22. The ammo is rated at 1250, so that's not good. The other avoid is winchester HV. Had it crack the rim on several cases recently in two different guns. Neither of which have had any issues with other brands of ammo.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

It's literally a spear. That is ancient self defense. If someone breaks in, you go full force and scare the fuck out of them and hopefully make them fuck up.

Yes but we (the US as a whole )are so insulated from firearms usage that politician faggots can rile people up over knives and guns. It's like the bongland bike wheel meme.
I propose every citizen be forced to fire a mag of 5.56 without ear protection full auto suppressed and unsupressed. And then make them fire a 8mm mauser so the recoil bruised their shoulder, while the brass shell casings disorent them while the smell of sulfur and destruction make them sick. Then watch them get PTSD.
Finally, force them to their ass whooped by someone taller and heavier than them. If we don't get rid of gun control at least we'll get height control for all the self-conscious manlets.


Marty Robbins was right, instead of sending blood bags and money to Vietnam Ukraine and Israel maybe we should send those politicians instead.

 

[MrShekelstein36]

Anyone here ever see an old Mauser Geha in person? I picked one up years ago, Its a post WW1 modification of a mauser to fire shotgun shells.

I've heard various things about the safety of using them. Personally I don't trust them, but I have a buddy I shoot trap with who used one a few times. He says if ya use trap/skeet ammo its safe.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Carried one of those for a year in Iraq.

Only reason to get one is if you want a GWOT clone rifle. Theres simply no point in a fixed stock and 20 inch barrel unless its a dmr/sniper rifle. Thing was a huge pita wearing body armor and getting in/out of vehicles.

I mean I've held one, a clone of a A3 (A2 but the handle detaches to show a rail). I liked the fit and weight. And I do plan on having a bayonet for it. Which is a BIG reason for wanting the 20 inch, reach. I don't plan on jumping out of a M113 anytime soon, so I'm good on the vehicle front.

Thats just it. They wanted to save ammo but never actually tried using it to see how utterly pointless it was. It was so horrifically pointless that never once during all my training up to and in Iraq incorporated 3 round burst.

Even just reading about it it seemed so stupid. You can fire a burst with full auto, it's called trigger discipline. Needlessly complicated. Glad they switched back.

 

[Geoff Capes Vapes Apes]

Anyone here ever see an old Mauser Geha in person? I picked one up years ago, Its a post WW1 modification of a mauser to fire shotgun shells.

https://www.guns.com/firearms/shotguns/bolt-action/germany-mauser-geha-12-ga-2-rounds-26-5-barrel-used?p=530367&soldout=1

Not in 12 bore, but old bolt guns rechambered in .410 are fairly common here in the UK, particularly Enfields. For legal reasons they've usually had the magazines fucked with to make them un-removable, and single shot. Wouldn't want one myself, I have martini actions to scratch the "retarded shotgun" itch.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

Even just reading about it it seemed so stupid. You can fire a burst with full auto, it's called trigger discipline. Needlessly complicated. Glad they switched back.

This is like complaining about 5.56 bruising your shoulder from recoil for average joe so we should ban everything but 22lr. I had a gun bruise my shoulder once, but I just had major surgery on it 4 months before and it was 8×50mmR Mannlicher.