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Badungus Kabungus said:
Speaking more of things that are legal in Canada but somehow not legal almost anywhere else. Look how tiny this thing is. I can carry it on my belt.
https://www.tacticalimports.ca/nonrestricted-firearms-c-1/ss211-p-648.html
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You can get a similar gun in the US, only downside is you have to have a Shockwave-style birdshead grip instead of a stock (unless you get a stamp for an SBS):
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Found some interesting info on anti-drone shotgun loads.
Special 12ga load for anti-drone duty by TechCrim, called the "Fat Goose."
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Copper plated shot 3.5mm (number 2 shot I think) and 45gr of powder. Supposedly effective to 75m.

TechCrim "Intercept" has a more interesting idea, it uses six lead chunks connected by kevlar wire. Supposedly effective to 100m. The "net" opens up to 1m size.
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From https://vpk.name/en/874913_the-blad...nes-have-been-developed-to-combat-drones.html
 
Badungus Kabungus said:
Found some interesting info on anti-drone shotgun loads.
Special 12ga load for anti-drone duty by TechCrim, called the "Fat Goose."
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Copper plated shot 3.5mm (number 2 shot I think) and 45gr of powder. Supposedly effective to 75m.

TechCrim "Intercept" has a more interesting idea, it uses six lead chunks connected by kevlar wire. Supposedly effective to 100m. The "net" opens up to 1m size.
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From https://vpk.name/en/874913_the-blad...nes-have-been-developed-to-combat-drones.html
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when it comes to military applications of anti drone rounds, ive always thought 20mm proximity AA rounds like in ww2 would be pretty effective against low flying drones. anyone know if this has been tried yet? not as man portable as a 12 gauge, but would probably be more effective.
 
Neo-Nazi Rich Evans said:
when it comes to military applications of anti drone rounds, ive always thought 20mm proximity AA rounds like in ww2 would be pretty effective against low flying drones. anyone know if this has been tried yet? not as man portable as a 12 gauge, but would probably be more effective.
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That's basically the Phalanx system with some additional upgrades. Definitely not portable, 20mm rounds are thicc.

The fastest way to get a bunch of anti-drone countermeasures in the field was to buy hunting shotguns from nearest sporting goods store until something more appropriate is developed. From there the next logical step was developing a specialized 12ga load, something that can be done expediently in the field.
 
Badungus Kabungus said:
That's basically the Phalanx system with some additional upgrades. Definitely not portable, 20mm rounds are thicc.

The fastest way to get a bunch of anti-drone countermeasures in the field was to buy hunting shotguns from nearest sporting goods store until something more appropriate is developed. From there the next logical step was developing a specialized 12ga load, something that can be done expediently in the field.
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you dont need a phalanx, there were plenty of portable 20mm single and multi barrel AA guns in ww2. easily could mount a modernized version of those onto a vehicle of some kind for anti drone operations.
 
Neo-Nazi Rich Evans said:
you dont need a phalanx, there were plenty of portable 20mm single and multi barrel AA guns in ww2. easily could mount a modernized version of those onto a vehicle of some kind for anti drone operations.
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A big problem with those older systems is that they lack any targeting systems and rely on eyesight. Considering a small FPV drone is practically invisible from like 200m, an advanced radar system is needed, and those radars aren't small.

Here's an example of just the radar system mounted on a vehicle, no gun.
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Once you add the gun and all the required systems you basically get a Phalanx at the end. Here's a vehicle-mounted one.
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I wonder what the legality of shooting down drones is or if there even is one (assuming you are not in city limits or in a residential area where you are not allowed to fire in general). It's not like if they're LEA drones that they present a badge, so it would seem to be a defense that you thought they were just some criminal casing your house for a robbery.

Just wondering, I don't even know if the issue has been decided.
 
AnOminous said:
I wonder what the legality of shooting down drones is or if there even is one (assuming you are not in city limits or in a residential area where you are not allowed to fire in general). It's not like if they're LEA drones that they present a badge, so it would seem to be a defense that you thought they were just some criminal casing your house for a robbery.

Just wondering, I don't even know if the issue has been decided.
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In the US, they're aircraft. Enjoy prison.
 
AnOminous said:
I wonder what the legality of shooting down drones is or if there even is one (assuming you are not in city limits or in a residential area where you are not allowed to fire in general). It's not like if they're LEA drones that they present a badge, so it would seem to be a defense that you thought they were just some criminal casing your house for a robbery.

Just wondering, I don't even know if the issue has been decided.
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Depends on the size, if it's the larger drones that require an FAA license and registration to operate it's same as shooting at a plane.
 
I've always thought the best way to defend against FPV drones is getting a talented skeet/trap shooter and giving them a magazine fed semi auto shotgun with an eotech. And an unlimited amount of tungsten high brass flight control turkey shot to train with and carry. In the future, i think FPV type drones will be so commonplace, you'll have these shotgunners integrated into the infantry down to the fire team level. A guy with a semi auto will be more important to combat infantry then designated marksmen, and as ubiquitous as automatic rifleman/light machine gunners.
 
Martys_not_smarty said:
Depends on the size, if it's the larger drones that require an FAA license and registration to operate it's same as shooting at a plane.
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Generally planes do not operate on your private property. They are well in the airspace reserved for actual planes. If you have actual military drones on your property you're so fucked you should probably just surrender, but if some dipshit sends some consoomer level drone onto your property to spy on you, you should be able to remove it from your property.
 
AnOminous said:
Generally planes do not operate on your private property. They are well in the airspace reserved for actual planes. If you have actual military drones on your property you're so fucked you should probably just surrender, but if some dipshit sends some consoomer level drone onto your property to spy on you, you should be able to remove it from your property.
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Like what others have said, in a legal sense they are aircraft and are federally protected. I imagine that's going to change eventually, but 18 U.S.C.§ 32 covers it and the pilot can pursue for damages.
Also the FAA claims all airspace above private property.
 
WhoBusTank69 said:
Like what others have said, in a legal sense they are aircraft and are federally protected. I imagine that's going to change eventually, but 18 U.S.C.§ 32 covers it and the pilot can pursue for damages.
Also the FAA claims all airspace above private property.
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Actually I believe the federally reserved airspace is 500 feet.
 
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