Mega Rad Gun Thread

[likeacrackado]

Man that is so fucked because they banned another magazine with the rationale that it could be put into a pistol, I think the 30 round for the ruger 10-22, because it could fit in some prohibited pistol almost nobody owns. I hope they don't throw a pop quiz at me a couple years from now because I can't remember all this bullshit.

If the ban happened a few decades ago it could've been this thing:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intratec_TEC-22

It has an ultra-scary threaded barrel, exterior modeled after the vz 61, and shares a name with Intratech's infamous Tec-9.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

If the ban happened a few decades ago it could've been this thing:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intratec_TEC-22

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It has an ultra-scary threaded barrel, exterior modeled after the vz 61, and shares a name with Intratech's infamous Tec-9.

The funny part is that apparently you can get a real Vz 61 in Canada with what seems like full size mags. Guess it's not considered a pistol in Canada. https://www.bullseyenorth.com/csa/csa-vz61-combat-skorpion-c-22lr-115mm-bbl-24910

The whole thing makes very little sense, sounds like it's a full-time job keeping up with Canadian gun laws.

 

[AFAB]

what if you use a 10 round .450 bushmaster magazine which just so happens to be identical to a 30 round AR15 mag? is that legal up there?

Still legal apparently.

Magazines for semi-automatic handguns which contain more than 10 rounds of a different calibre​

Magazines designed to contain centre-fire cartridges and designed or manufactured for use in a semi-automatic handgun are limited to 10 cartridges. The capacity is measured by the kind of cartridge the magazine was designed to contain. In some cases, the magazine will be capable of containing more than 10 rounds of a different calibre. However, this does not determine the maximum permitted capacity.

Example​

Heckler and Koch P7 pistol chambered for 9mm Luger centre-fire calibre:

• The magazine designed for the 40 S&W centre-fire calibre variant of the pistol will hold 13 cartridges of 9mm Luger centre-fire calibre and function in the 9mm Luger centre-fire calibre P7 pistol
• This is allowed as the maximum permitted capacity of the 40 S&W centre-fire calibre magazine is measured by the number of 40 S&W centre-fire calibre cartridges it is capable of holding (10 in the case of the HK P7 pistol magazine)

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Still legal apparently.

So is everyone just using .40 S&W mags in their 9mm pistols up there? Sounds messy.

Speaking more of things that are legal in Canada but somehow not legal almost anywhere else. Look how tiny this thing is. I can carry it on my belt.

https://www.tacticalimports.ca/nonrestricted-firearms-c-1/ss211-p-648.html

 

[Neo-Nazi Rich Evans]

So is everyone just using .40 S&W mags in their 9mm pistols up there? Sounds messy.

Speaking more of things that are legal in Canada but somehow not legal almost anywhere else. Look how tiny this thing is. I can carry it on my belt.

https://www.tacticalimports.ca/nonrestricted-firearms-c-1/ss211-p-648.html

me likey. let's annex canada and take all their guns.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

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me likey. let's annex canada and take all their guns.

They even have a side-by-side version with external hammers, the SC-215.


Damn, I need two of those and a trench coat with a cowboy hat for that 90s video game vibe.

 

[Meat Target]

Looks like Dakka's back on the menu, boys!

 

[quaawaa]

Speaking more of things that are legal in Canada but somehow not legal almost anywhere else. Look how tiny this thing is. I can carry it on my belt.
https://www.tacticalimports.ca/nonrestricted-firearms-c-1/ss211-p-648.html

You can get a similar gun in the US, only downside is you have to have a Shockwave-style birdshead grip instead of a stock (unless you get a stamp for an SBS):

https://paladinarmory.com/newpage11.htm

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

You can get a similar gun in the US, only downside is you have to have a Shockwave-style birdshead grip instead of a stock (unless you get a stamp for an SBS):
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https://paladinarmory.com/newpage11.htm

Yeah, but the stock makes it so much better to shoot. I really hate those birdshead grips, it's worth getting the SBS stamp.

 

[Belgians in the Congo]

He got the 50

.50 AE? What's the mag capacity like?

 

[MrShekelstein36]

.50 AE? What's the mag capacity like?

5 in a 15rd mag. 7-8 in a 30 if ya want it to run reliably (depending on how beat the mag is), or 10 if you don't care.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Found some interesting info on anti-drone shotgun loads.
Special 12ga load for anti-drone duty by TechCrim, called the "Fat Goose."

Copper plated shot 3.5mm (number 2 shot I think) and 45gr of powder. Supposedly effective to 75m.

TechCrim "Intercept" has a more interesting idea, it uses six lead chunks connected by kevlar wire. Supposedly effective to 100m. The "net" opens up to 1m size.


From https://vpk.name/en/874913_the-blad...nes-have-been-developed-to-combat-drones.html

 

[Neo-Nazi Rich Evans]

Found some interesting info on anti-drone shotgun loads.
Special 12ga load for anti-drone duty by TechCrim, called the "Fat Goose."
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Copper plated shot 3.5mm (number 2 shot I think) and 45gr of powder. Supposedly effective to 75m.

TechCrim "Intercept" has a more interesting idea, it uses six lead chunks connected by kevlar wire. Supposedly effective to 100m. The "net" opens up to 1m size.
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From https://vpk.name/en/874913_the-blad...nes-have-been-developed-to-combat-drones.html

when it comes to military applications of anti drone rounds, ive always thought 20mm proximity AA rounds like in ww2 would be pretty effective against low flying drones. anyone know if this has been tried yet? not as man portable as a 12 gauge, but would probably be more effective.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

when it comes to military applications of anti drone rounds, ive always thought 20mm proximity AA rounds like in ww2 would be pretty effective against low flying drones. anyone know if this has been tried yet? not as man portable as a 12 gauge, but would probably be more effective.

That's basically the Phalanx system with some additional upgrades. Definitely not portable, 20mm rounds are thicc.

The fastest way to get a bunch of anti-drone countermeasures in the field was to buy hunting shotguns from nearest sporting goods store until something more appropriate is developed. From there the next logical step was developing a specialized 12ga load, something that can be done expediently in the field.

 

[Neo-Nazi Rich Evans]

That's basically the Phalanx system with some additional upgrades. Definitely not portable, 20mm rounds are thicc.

The fastest way to get a bunch of anti-drone countermeasures in the field was to buy hunting shotguns from nearest sporting goods store until something more appropriate is developed. From there the next logical step was developing a specialized 12ga load, something that can be done expediently in the field.

you dont need a phalanx, there were plenty of portable 20mm single and multi barrel AA guns in ww2. easily could mount a modernized version of those onto a vehicle of some kind for anti drone operations.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

you dont need a phalanx, there were plenty of portable 20mm single and multi barrel AA guns in ww2. easily could mount a modernized version of those onto a vehicle of some kind for anti drone operations.

A big problem with those older systems is that they lack any targeting systems and rely on eyesight. Considering a small FPV drone is practically invisible from like 200m, an advanced radar system is needed, and those radars aren't small.

Here's an example of just the radar system mounted on a vehicle, no gun.

https://militaryembedded.com/radar-ew/test/army-uses-northrop-grumman-hammr-to-demo-multi-mission-capabilities

Once you add the gun and all the required systems you basically get a Phalanx at the end. Here's a vehicle-mounted one.

https://armyrecognition.com/military-products/army/air-defense-systems/self-propelled-anti-aircraft-guns/centurion-c-ram-united-states-uk

 

[AnOminous]

I wonder what the legality of shooting down drones is or if there even is one (assuming you are not in city limits or in a residential area where you are not allowed to fire in general). It's not like if they're LEA drones that they present a badge, so it would seem to be a defense that you thought they were just some criminal casing your house for a robbery.

Just wondering, I don't even know if the issue has been decided.

 

[DavidS877]

I wonder what the legality of shooting down drones is or if there even is one (assuming you are not in city limits or in a residential area where you are not allowed to fire in general). It's not like if they're LEA drones that they present a badge, so it would seem to be a defense that you thought they were just some criminal casing your house for a robbery.

Just wondering, I don't even know if the issue has been decided.

In the US, they're aircraft. Enjoy prison.

 

[Martys_not_smarty]

I wonder what the legality of shooting down drones is or if there even is one (assuming you are not in city limits or in a residential area where you are not allowed to fire in general). It's not like if they're LEA drones that they present a badge, so it would seem to be a defense that you thought they were just some criminal casing your house for a robbery.

Just wondering, I don't even know if the issue has been decided.

Depends on the size, if it's the larger drones that require an FAA license and registration to operate it's same as shooting at a plane.

 

[Romulus augustulus]

They even have a side-by-side version with external hammers, the SC-215.
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Damn, I need two of those and a trench coat with a cowboy hat for that 90s video game vibe.
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interesting that that SxS has a side lever opener. that fell out of favor in the 1870s.