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Path Wanderer said:
So given my like of /out/ing and -let's just say- other circumstantial vulnerabilities I predict in the near future, I am thinking of acquiring a high-force pistol/revolver for self defense. Besides the Ruger Redhawk, is there any cheap gun that fits this model?

(Also am newbie)
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i'm not sure i would trust a cost-optimized .44 magnum which is the only thing that comes to mind with whatever "high-force" means. there are a good number of used .357's on the market though. typically people looking for a specific sort of firearm have an intended use-case or already know the ammunition they want to use. outside these you start getting into harder to find ammo that might not be easy to acquire to practice with.

the old cheap rancher standby is a ruger vaquero in .44 mag or charter arms in .44 long colt or .44 special is probably inexpensive and powerful enough for most purposes like boar defense but regardless you're paying a bit of a premium on the ammunition itself. you can get a Taurus Judge in .44 LC as well for under $400 in most places if you can inspect it personally (most are alright in terms of manufacturing for minute of man use safely enough).

not sure either of these would have much (if anything) over a .45 ACP pistol in terms of terminal ballistics unless you're making your own loads. 200gr JHP at 1000 f/s from a .44 special is a very mean load and the go-to back in the day was a 180gr wad cutter or JSP at around 1050 or 1100 was a bear/pcp defense load for mountain men and 1970's door kickers for early SWAT teams.

i feel for personal defense against black bears or the like, a 1911 from RIA wouldn't be a bad option and shouldn't break the bank either. brown bears, not so much. if you have a specific use-case in mind, you're better off supplying some details.
 
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John Badman said:
Colt gonna make me act up with that red dot plate. I’m gonna buy that mountain revolver and larp as a modern cowboy.
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This also makes me act up. In a good way. They're making actual optic cut 1911s now too. But this will always be the king



A Glock 40 MOS (or non MOS) with a chest holster is always an option for hiking in bear country. It's 10mm. I've been considering it myself lately. We've had some rabies black bear attacks in the general area. I don't own anything larger than a 9mm handgun wise. I can understand the advantage of a revolver in terms of against a bear. If it's on you there's no risk of a slide malfunction.
 
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Club Sandwich said:
i feel for personal defense against black bears or the like, a 1911 from RIA wouldn't be a bad option and shouldn't break the bank either. brown bears, not so much. if you have a specific use-case in mind, you're better off supplying some details.
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Pretty surprised to see you recomend RIA 1911's. I've personally witnessed them having lots of finnicky issues.

Everytime I say something in here though I get even more nuanced people dotting my "i"s and crossing my "t"s though. Is there a secret sauce to buying RIA?
 
Club Sandwich said:
not sure either of these would have much (if anything) over a .45 ACP pistol in terms of terminal ballistics unless you're making your own loads. 200gr JHP at 1000 f/s from a .44 special is a very mean load and the go-to back in the day was a 180gr wad cutter or JSP at around 1050 or 1100 was a bear/pcp defense load for mountain men and 1970's door kickers for early SWAT teams.

i feel for personal defense against black bears or the like, a 1911 from RIA wouldn't be a bad option and shouldn't break the bank either. brown bears, not so much. if you have a specific use-case in mind, you're better off supplying some details.
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I disagree with your recommendation specifically for the RIA 1911. Now these days the Turkish ones can be found for the same price but with better metallurgy.

Many of the long-term RIA owners I know would keep having their pistols shed parts, mainly with external controls like the grip safety, thumb safety, and slide release break. Another one I knew had a full length tactical 45 (straight mainspring housing, Novak type sights, guide rod) not function and kept jamming against a Norinco and modern Colt (2010s era pre-CZ) that used the same ammo and magazines just fine.
 
Yours Truly 2095 said:
I badly want a tisas 1911a1. The new updated ones that are basically 1:1 repros with the correct ejection port. forged frames too. To go with my Garand. Othais from c&r vouches them hardcore so it's enough for me to think it's worth the $300-350. I've seen cheap 1911s run better than expensive ones.
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The modern (post 1990s) trend in expensive 1911s is to bring all the tolerances in so that the gun feels more premium and doesn't rattle when shaken. Not surprising at all that an older 1911 without these modern "improvements" will shoot more reliably, and none of these changes improve accuracy at all.
 
Samhain said:
What other forums do guys frequent to discuss firearms and related subjects? /k/ is cooked. There's reddit, where the quality of conversation varies greatly depending on the sub. I've gotten better info from certain subreddits than on /k/ though so that says something. I check arfcom rarely. Still some good conversations there, but it seems like arfcom's slowed down a bit in recent years.

Seems like a lot of firearms chit chat has moved to Discord and Telegram, at least based on my current experience.
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I go on Brian enos's forums every now and then. It's more competition focused so more people there actually shoot the guns they're talking about.
 
Yours Truly 2095 said:
There's really no reason to get anything other than a p365 or hellcat in that form factor. P365 also has a 380 version which is very fun to shoot. Feels like a 22 basically no recoil (you can also get a 380 kit for a 9mm p365 now). I feel the 380 is worth considering with Lehigh defense rounds if you want a pretty fun micro compact to shoot and the complete absence of recoil is nice.

In my opinion the Hellcat has a much better factory design for controls. The slide release and mag release are great. The p365 (I've only shot a 380 so can't speak to the 9mm recoil difference between hellcat and p365) has a subpar slide release and mag release from the factory. The mag release particularly is so small and needs pushed in so much it was basically unusable for me to do reload drills quickly. Armory craft extended ones are in my opinion way better. I do find the hellcat a bit snappy, I carried it for years. Accurate gun, but definitely not always the most fun thing to shoot.
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I can't shoot anything smaller than glock 19 sized stuff to save my life, so guns like the smaller p365s and 380s are out
 
BikeLock said:
I would consider that better than "pretty good", I would jump on that, and I'm not even in the market for another CZ75.

Edit: Just checked prices, I guess that is just "pretty good" unless its an Orange.
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It's a blue and grey. Fell in love with CZ with the new p09c nocturne. Some people say they've had constant issues, But after mines break in period it runs flawlessly
 
DOOMSlayer said:
I can't shoot anything smaller than glock 19 sized stuff to save my life, so guns like the smaller p365s and 380s are out
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Try the p365 380 with the 12 round extended mag for more grip. 9mm micros are snappy assholes. The 380 one literally feels like a 22. Just rent one if you see one to rent. Can't hurt.
 
Boney said:
>Sig
>Ever
Not in the year of Our Lord 2025.
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Your video is not working too well for me. But it's pretty normal for the striker to rattle when it's not cocked on a micro like that. My Hellcat also does it. Maybe there's more rattle than that. I can't hear it too well on my end. I'll try to watch it again later. The p320 and the p365 are completely different platforms. I absolutely would not buy a p320
 
Yours Truly 2095 said:
Your video is not working too well for me. But it's pretty normal for the striker to rattle when it's not cocked on a micro like that. My Hellcat also does it. Maybe there's more rattle than that. I can't hear it too well on my end. I'll try to watch it again later. The p320 and the p365 are completely different platforms. I absolutely would not buy a p320
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P365 is a pretty good design, in theory. I'm pretty sure the fuckery only starts as the parts begin to wear. The rattle started around 6,000rds. When you do get to hear it, you'll ask yourself "wtf"?

It is according to Sig, the take down lever. The rattle is harmless but can't be fixed because it is a result of the polymer frame wearing.

According to Sig.

They did offer to replace the frame. I just got a Glock instead.
 
Boney said:
P365 is a pretty good design, in theory. I'm pretty sure the fuckery only starts as the parts begin to wear. The rattle started around 6,000rds. When you do get to hear it, you'll ask yourself "wtf"?

It is according to Sig, the take down lever. The rattle is harmless but can't be fixed because it is a result of the polymer frame wearing.

According to Sig.

They did offer to replace the frame. I just got a Glock instead.
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Interesting. I hadn't heard about that one yet. I mean if it's the frame that's not terrible for 6,000 rounds for a $50 part replacement basically. I'm surprised more things hadn't broken on it by that round count. I wonder if the Wilson combat frame would wear out like that
 
Yours Truly 2095 said:
Interesting. I hadn't heard about that one yet. I mean if it's the frame that's not terrible for 6,000 rounds for a $50 part replacement basically. I'm surprised more things hadn't broken on it by that round count.
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I will also say that, as far as all MY tests went this wasn't a safety issue. I am pretty sure it was indeed the take down lever.

It was however an excellent demonstration of how Sig guns lack the quality to be taken seriously.

A polymer striker fire pistol should last tens of thousands of rounds.

Buy Glonk.
 
Yours Truly 2095 said:
Try the p365 380 with the 12 round extended mag for more grip. 9mm micros are snappy assholes. The 380 one literally feels like a 22. Just rent one if you see one to rent. Can't hurt.
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9mm is meta. If you can't handle it the obvious answers are user error and get better. My 43x is flawless.
Boney said:
P365 is a pretty good design, in theory.
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lul
Boney said:
I just got a Glock instead.
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top kek
Boney said:
I will also say that, as far as all MY tests went this wasn't a safety issue. I am pretty sure it was indeed the take down lever.

It was however an excellent demonstration of how Sig guns lack the quality to be taken seriously.

A polymer striker fire pistol should last tens of thousands of rounds.

Buy Glonk.
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If I had to choose between Sig and Turkshit, I at least know what I get with Turkshit.
 
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