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Shotgunning drones on the wing:
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I wonder what choke he's using lol.
I've always wondered if it'd be better to use a shorter shotgun for drone defense. Modern combat sights/ghost ring sights are still pretty accurate even with a shorter sight radius, and you can always use a tighter choke anyway if you're concerned with spread.
That could be remedied by using tungsten ammo however, but theyre fucking expensive.
+P depleted uranium shot:eli:
 
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Ours are required to be registered so they're intended to last as long as physically possible. Can't just go to the sporting goods store and walk out with one the same day.
At least with the new ATF processing time it is possible to get it approved within hours. Seems to be a few days now though. Beats upwards of a year it was before.
 
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Sorry, but nothing less than a .45's gonna suffice. Also being LDS it would probably get my Temple Recommend revoked if I didn't carry fellow church member John Moses Browning's handiwork.

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Sorry, but nothing less than a .45's gonna suffice. Also being LDS it would probably get my Temple Recommend revoked if I didn't carry fellow church member John Moses Browning's handiwork.
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The only places I've seen Kimbers sold are Walmart so I had assumed they were low-quality mass-manufactured cheapos, but apparently the USMC utilized the "Kimber Desert Warrior" at some point during the GWOT? Can anybody speak to that and the quality of that particular model?
Kimber nose dived in quality around 2013 or so, maybe a little beforehand depending on model. they were struggling with commercial and contract sales volume for what was a relatively small shop and both expanded as well as started loosening QC on MIM and cast parts just to get product shipped. Over time, getting very poor machine work done in the interest of speed and profit. they evened out around 2017 or 2018 and have been kinda mediocre since then with worse finish than old big banner Mauser rifles (big oof) and sometimes sloppy fitting.

the Kimber Desert Warrior is semi-custom and is built by a select few people at Kimber specifically for the contract and some limited commercial sales of overruns. i have old Yonkers Kimbers and they're fantastic pieces for the money asked (compared to an Ed Brown or Les Baer where quality is still better, but not at the prices Kimber offered). Kimber in the best of times was a cheaper Wilson Combat that actually answered the phone.
 
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No.

Frankly I have 0 idea where you can even find a .22 pistol at that price these days.

You want a stupid cheap handgun? Go get a police trade in. That will be a gun worth shooting and worth keeping for around $300-$400

Sportsmans outdoors has a nice selection right now
I mean have you seen those 22 revolvers at Sportsmans? They're single action, but cheap as fuck. I don't think you'd want to keep it forever though lol.
Swedish belt fed BAR conversion
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Just get a FN MAG at that point lmao, its what a belt fed BAR is at the end of the day.
 
Why are suppressors so expensive in america?
We don't buy disposable suppressors because each one is serialized and comes with a $200 tax stamp.

The only thing the Euros got right about firearms is that suppressors are safety devices, not assassin tools (Thanks, again, hollywood jews, you fucked us on switchblades, balisongs, and stillettos, too).
 
We don't buy disposable suppressors because each one is serialized and comes with a $200 tax stamp.

The only thing the Euros got right about firearms is that suppressors are safety devices, not assassin tools (Thanks, again, hollywood jews, you fucked us on switchblades, balisongs, and stillettos, too).
Never heard of disposable suppressors.
You can get a full stainless suppressor for 30 cal here for 200.
Same for aluminium and normal steel.
Titanium ones start from 300
Quicklock ones are about the same price as in america tho.
 
Never heard of disposable suppressors.
You can get a full stainless suppressor for 30 cal here for 200.
Same for aluminium and normal steel.
Titanium ones start from 300
Quicklock ones are about the same price as in america tho.
I suppose when I meant "disposable" I meant, "non-rebuildable"

You get a baffle strike on that $200 can, you just shrug and buy another.

We get a baffle strike on our $200 can (that is now $400), we have to buy another $200 can, and then another $200 tax stamp, wait for approval, and then prove to the government that the last one was destroyed.

So our "cheapest cans" run about $400 (plus the $200 stamp), thanks to the market and the NFA.
 
For a long time it wasn't worth most companies making inexpensive suppressors due to the $200 tax and ridiculously long ATF approval time making suppressors unattractive purchases for a lot of gun owners. Most suppressor companies were chasing military and LE contracts, with a much smaller number targeting hunters.

But there's far more interest now, as well as improvements in manufacturing, and that's how you get really good suppressors like the OCL Polonium series that are very affordable (a couple months ago I saw the Polos going for $420 on sale). Also in the past year, the wait time for suppressor purchase approvals has gone from 9-12 months to just a few days in most cases. Most suppressors are still pretty expensive though, but they're also getting more intricate in their designs due to the manufacturing advances. The $200 tax really needs to fucking go away.

So yeah, something like a Surefire SOCOM RC2 might be $1200 (plus $200 tax), but it's a nearly indestructible tank that 99% of civilian buyers will never have to have serviced in any way. It will essentially last someone their entire life. For about half that much, you can get an OCL Polonium, which is still a durable suppressor.
 
Never heard of disposable suppressors.
You can get a full stainless suppressor for 30 cal here for 200.
Same for aluminium and normal steel.
Titanium ones start from 300
Quicklock ones are about the same price as in america tho.

One other thing to consider about American suppressors is the innovation, technology, and materials they're being built with now. I've only got one suppressor for now, a .30 Caliber/7.62mm rifle can called the Vox S. It's made from a nickel maraging steel alloy that's typically used in aerospace and rocket parts and other high temperature applications where repeated cycles of heating and cooling happens. Then you have the newer flow-through cans to greatly reduce gas backpressure where the whole thing is essentially 3D printed, but with metal, because the design is far too complex to be machined. You also have suppressors now where each section of the baffle stack and the body is one piece and can be threaded on to the section before it, so you can customize the length and quietness of your can. You have cans utilizing other more exotic materials like inconel and Haynes 282, which are much more expensive than steel, aluminum, and even titanium of older suppressor designs. Since sound suppressors have been treated less as a utilitarian safety device in the US and more like military equipment or a niche collectable due to the National Firearms Act of 1934 up until recently, our suppressor manufacturers have had to innovate to stand out from the crowd and attract buyers. But now that suppressors are becoming more mainstream and accessible to regular folks, hopefully they will get deregulated and be treated more like they are in Europe.
 
Kimber nose dived in quality around 2013 or so, maybe a little beforehand depending on model. they were struggling with commercial and contract sales volume for what was a relatively small shop and both expanded as well as started loosening QC on MIM and cast parts just to get product shipped. Over time, getting very poor machine work done in the interest of speed and profit. they evened out around 2017 or 2018 and have been kinda mediocre since then with worse finish than old big banner Mauser rifles (big oof) and sometimes sloppy fitting.

the Kimber Desert Warrior is semi-custom and is built by a select few people at Kimber specifically for the contract and some limited commercial sales of overruns. i have old Yonkers Kimbers and they're fantastic pieces for the money asked (compared to an Ed Brown or Les Baer where quality is still better, but not at the prices Kimber offered). Kimber in the best of times was a cheaper Wilson Combat that actually answered the phone.
Which is why I rock a Dan Wesson Pointman.
 
Is it a good idea to buy an el cheapo ($100-$150) pistol to qualify for your CCW knowing that your won't carry that one. Or should I just save up for the pistol I want and qualify for that? Mind you whatever gun I carry I will of course train and practice with it. But this is so I can just get my CCW.

Out of curiosity, what are the CCW requirements? Will any action type and caliber do? If yes, single action .22 revolvers like the Ruger Wrangler are the only sidearms that are both roughly in your price range and have lasting value for target practice.

If it needs to be centerfire cartridge, cheaper and you're content with getting a more expensive firearm later to practice with, then Hi-Point it is.
 
One other thing to consider about American suppressors is the innovation, technology, and materials they're being built with now. I've only got one suppressor for now, a .30 Caliber/7.62mm rifle can called the Vox S. It's made from a nickel maraging steel alloy that's typically used in aerospace and rocket parts and other high temperature applications where repeated cycles of heating and cooling happens. Then you have the newer flow-through cans to greatly reduce gas backpressure where the whole thing is essentially 3D printed, but with metal, because the design is far too complex to be machined. You also have suppressors now where each section of the baffle stack and the body is one piece and can be threaded on to the section before it, so you can customize the length and quietness of your can. You have cans utilizing other more exotic materials like inconel and Haynes 282, which are much more expensive than steel, aluminum, and even titanium of older suppressor designs. Since sound suppressors have been treated less as a utilitarian safety device in the US and more like military equipment or a niche collectable due to the National Firearms Act of 1934 up until recently, our suppressor manufacturers have had to innovate to stand out from the crowd and attract buyers. But now that suppressors are becoming more mainstream and accessible to regular folks, hopefully they will get deregulated and be treated more like they are in Europe.
God damn you described it perfectly.
Ive looked at the US made suppressors for sale here and thought to myself "thats way too over engineered, but cool"
You didnt mention carbon fiber tho, to which i have total aversion to.
I know a guy who got one for his 300wsm bolt action and it blew apart from the side at the range.
What he believed to have happened was that the left side had received quite a few impacts from rocks and boulders while crawling on the forest floor towards a moose that was currently being gang stalked by a barking karelian bear hound, multiple times.
Theyre expensive and seem to be fragile.
 
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