I’ve shot 5.56 out to about 900 yards, but the big issue is wind drift starting around 500 yards. 308 will be much easier to get hits on target at further distances, plus deliver more energy on target.
But why though? Unless you want to start issuing bullpups, 20 inches is just unnecessarily long for your average grunt. Today is all about mechanized warfare, and most infantry combat (if we are actually planning for peer-peer conflicts instead of fighting insurgents) is still very close quarters where the extra performance doesn't matter, but that rifle being too unwieldy inside a house or a trench might be a difference between life and death. 14.5-16 inches is just fine.
the ruskies and ukies are just using drones as a replacement for massed artillery and air support, neither of which both sides have in significant numbers.
I mean I guess if we are talking about golf ball sized autonomous drones that fly next to a person and explode next to their ear, yea sure. Might as well get rid of all the militaries at that point.
A combination of the lack of artillery ammunition and equipment, the lack of skill, and the way that the battlefield has staled and it's mostly small skirmishes that are more efficient to deal with using drones than artillery (which either side can't utilize to its full potential).
I Should have elaborated more.
small arms have not mattered all that much in at least 200 years. they lost prominence arguably in the Napoleonic wars but certainly took a backseat by the US civil war, during which artillery had forced both sides into trenches by the end of the war. after approximately the 1870s easily 2/3 to 3/4 of casualties in peer conflicts have been from artillery. a artillery shell and gun are cheaper than drones in the long run too.
Yea well, that has been true for what, like 170 years? @Romulus augustulus gave you an example from the US civil war, and another one from the same time period was the Austro-Prussian war. That's literally the last time small arms won battles, as Prussians had their breach-loading Dreyses against muzzle loaders from the Austrians. Ever since then, it has been other factors.
Even that didn't matter much. Brett Gibbons of the paper cartridges channel on youtube goes into extreme autistic detail on the musketry of the austro-prussian war.
It is the spot where we are currently. In Ukraine we have went from 2022 mechanised SPGs shooting and scooting and towed guns traditionally in battery to point where towed guns were vulnerable due to counterbattery fires.
This is why I carry a shotgun as part of my kit. I have a remington 887 nitromag with steel no7 shotshells.
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Siggers gonna Sig.(Article) | (Archive)
New Hampshire Public Radio | By Todd Bookman
Published May 28, 2025 at 4:28 PM EDT
Dan Tuohy
The new law has drawn pushback from people who've been injured from unintentional firings of their Sig Sauer pistols.
Back in April, in a nearly empty room at the New Hampshire State House, Bobby Cox, an executive with gunmaker Sig Sauer, had come with a request.
He said his company, one of the biggest gun manufacturers in the country and a major employer on New Hampshire’s Seacoast, needed protection. Specifically, Sig...Reactions:
It looks cool in movies and has an interesting bolt system but it's not practical. Reminds me of the Mars pistol that preceded it decades before.
Ah yes, B&T the company that makes $2500 direct blowback 9mm guns
A bit optimistic as Russian artillery went though a small revolution from 2008 to 2022 with Orlan drones and a "dial an artillery strike" app/system coming along in that ~14 year timeframe.
They matter when you had a rifled breechloader, a repeater, and especially smokeless powder and the other guy didn't.
Austria and Prussia both agreed that the Prussiana firing 2-3x more than the Austrians was important as well as being able to easily reload prone or kneeling.
Fascinating that S. Korea is dumping all 60mm and 81mm mortars.
It's fine. You MIGHT break a spring in is that needs replacing after a few thousand rounds.
