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Polock said:
I am really interested in hearing him justify/expand on this position because its quite open ended. Is he implying that a trigger dingus (only just learned today what the technical term for it is) safety would have prevented these guns going off? Is he implying that because there was no trigger safety/external safety that the design of the gun lead it down the path to an eventual critical design failure?
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He seems to have adopted the traditional Sigger defense in that it's an assumption that the argument has to do with the trigger itself whereas nobody criticizing the design has brought it up beyond the occasional "They removed the trigger dingus from the production design how curious".
Considering the FBI is the only institution of note to have investigated this and have disclosed findings similar to the internet gun community in that a trigger dingus would not have solved it(evidenced by M17/M18s with manual safeties going off) he is aggressively missing the point and will not make friends with this in order to remain on good terms with the industry.
 
DocAwe said:
Didn't Sig basically give Ian a free 320?
Might be why he's acting kinda skiddish about the whole thing.
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Ian is always ambiguous with the big players of the industry. It doesn't do him any good to burn bridges. Likewise, it doesn't do him any good to go full sigger either. It is what it is.
 
WhoBusTank69 said:
He seems to have adopted the traditional Sigger defense in that it's an assumption that the argument has to do with the trigger itself whereas nobody criticizing the design has brought it up beyond the occasional "They removed the trigger dingus from the production design how curious".
Considering the FBI is the only institution of note to have investigated this and have disclosed findings similar to the internet gun community in that a trigger dingus would not have solved it(evidenced by M17/M18s with manual safeties going off) he is aggressively missing the point and will not make friends with this in order to remain on good terms with the industry.
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To be fair to Ian (I already pointed out that he's not really pressing sig in the guntuber thread "oh they just dont know whats happening nobody does but it keeps happening oopsie!") I think him bringing up the trigger dingus is just pointing out that from the get go Sig hasn't really had safety in mind with the p320, and that it not being a thing just makes this all worse from a PR standpoint. Not that the trigger dingus has anything to do with why they're just going off uncommanded.
 
Pocket Dragoon said:
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I hope after 10 years has passed, that people will still remember this piece of shit of a gun that caused this shitshow.
Like in the far future of maybe 30 years, some fucking 60 70 year old fudd will say: "hey sonny, is that a sieg shower? you know those guns are dangerous right? they go off on their own! They were designed to be fired without touching the trigger so soldiers surrendering their sidearm could still shoot one enemy, like the japs with their nahmboo in world war two!"
 
Bogliacci said:
To be fair to Ian (I already pointed out that he's not really pressing sig in the guntuber thread "oh they just dont know whats happening nobody does but it keeps happening oopsie!") I think him bringing up the trigger dingus is just pointing out that from the get go Sig hasn't really had safety in mind with the p320, and that it not being a thing just makes this all worse from a PR standpoint. Not that the trigger dingus has anything to do with why they're just going off uncommanded.
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I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt, but,
Internorth Inc said:
Apparently Ian has some more things to say about the P320 on his instagram:
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"Can SIG recover from the P320? Well, S&W recovered from when gun V95139 fell out of a holster and killed a US Navy sailor, and the Model 10 isn't considered an unsafe gun today..."
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Despite the P320 just killing an Airman, and in the face of all the unintended discharges from holsters recorded on video, Sig is suing the Washington State Criminal Justice Training Commission for banning the P320 from use at its training ranges.

 
Webley .38 S&W modified into a .44 Special. Jarring to see a top break with grip a like that
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One of the many personal rifles of the owner of Sureshot Armament (Russia)
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Iraqi Abominations
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Mekanika Uru SMG with alternative compensated and integrally suppressed barrels
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Cutaway of the integrally suppressed barrel
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Barrel is 3in long, 32mm expansion chamber and 48 baffles (which I believe is by far the highest number of baffles I've see in one suppressor aside from those "how ridiculously long can we make this modular suppressor that the manufacturer sent us 100 spare baffles for" videos on youtube)

AEK-971 BCG torn down
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Borchardt C-93 seized in Japan last year
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Look at the trigger, weird huh?
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RPD? More like R(a)P(e)D
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Ron Cohen has sent his tribesmen some new instruments to turn Palestinian children into dead Palestinian children
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Also I can't be assed to go through the video even on 2x speed but like 7 months ago Classic Firearms accidentally included some info on some kind of Mexican contract they were competing for/fulfilling/fulfilled. Sig talked to them and they delisted the original and uploaded an edited version
Here's the original, shorter video for anyone who cares (assuming the link works)

SA-SSHC "Remora" Super Safe handgun chassis for Steyr M9-A2MF
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Saiga
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Painted RPL and PKZ
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Have you ever played Call of Duty: Ghosts (2013)? Did you ever play that level where you impale dozens of evil Mexicans with an APS underwater rifle but found yourself wondering as to its internal functions? Wonder no more

I've been thinking this last day or so about how nobody, not even for funsies, has to my knowledge ever made a gun that uses the dual magazine feed system of the MP-40/I. I'm even more surprised that Keltec or a GunCAD guy hasn't done so.
I'm sure there could be a market for it in Ban states. Think about it, Legally I don't think anyone could argue that it's any different than a coupled magazine and it wouldn't be impossible to Maybe rig up a permanently affixed model with 2-3 mags on a sliding mechansim. Only problem would be that you would need proprietary everything.
 
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AGPinochet said:
I've been thinking this last day or so about how nobody, not even for funsies, has to my knowledge ever made s gun that uses the dual magazine feed system of the MP-40/I. I'm even more surprised that Keltec or a GunCAD guy hasn't done so.
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Stubbs (working on the 3D printed MP41 and did the 3D printed STG a while back among other designs) is actually working on that. He's also doing a bayonet mount for this thing.
 
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Stubbs (working on the 3D printed MP41 and did the 3D printed STG a while back among other designs) is actually working on that. He's also doing a bayonet mount for this thing.
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I actually saw that and totally forgot. Still, someone should make a PCC that takes double colt mags or something, just for fun.
deerbeer said:
Sig has alerted the sloptubers.

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SigSissies...

This guy Roland (who apparently isn't just some guy as he has some level of industry connections based on his interactions with the Weapon Outfitters Account and I think one or two others) apparently went to some Private Sig event recently and had this to say about it It might have been Ben Stoeger himself had this to say about a private Sig event. Whoever posted it they deleted it off Instagram and Roland posted it to X

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AncientPhosphur said:
Ian doesn't think there's a chance the P320 could fire on its own and there's never been a case of that, it's all hypothetical
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That is a GIGANTIC "maybe" at this point that's leaning towards "probably"

DocAwe said:
Didn't Sig basically give Ian a free 320?
Might be why he's acting kinda skiddish about the whole thing.
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And almost certainly exclusive access to their weapons vaults and the like.

Some of the places Ian goes to and films arms at are either scummy as hell auction houses or are literally private manufacturer collections that are absolutely off limits to "normies'
 
Seems like Sig's problems are contagious, spreading to Barrett.
"This seems to be a problem with a decent amount of the relatively new Barrett Mk22 military multi-cal sniper rifles. What's happening? *in most cases* the user pulls the trigger but doesn't get a bang. Instead, the rifles fire when the bolt is manipulated. It seems to be a different than the issue with Remington 700s that fire on their own but it also seems like a easier problem to fix but I suppose time will tell..."

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