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God's drunkest driver said:
According to the screenshot, it's an unequal tolerance band, biased toward under nominal. +.05mm -.10mm or roughly +.002"/0.004". Realistically the .05mm true position tolerance with Max Material Condition modifier would be more troublesome than the distance between the edges of the "rails". On such a small, precise part, you're using progressive dies and with good process control and tooling including quality inspections, it does not look like a difficult spec to meet IMO. Especially since it's biased toward undersized so with good tooling designers and process control, you can bias your production to result in slightly under nominal parts where the tolerance band is larger and avoid any over max condition parts that would have to be corrected by machining or discarded if they violate the true position + MMC.

Obviously, I'd need to see the whole drawing including the notes to give you a full breakdown on whether the FCU frame is actually a hard part to meet spec on, and would need the drawings for every part in the FCU and slide to tell you if a within spec worst case stack would be unsafe (it shouldn't be, that would be a major engineering blunder). A full stack up on every part involved would be damn time consuming though, so I wouldn't want to do it lol
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I'm sure it could be done with different tooling; but a 0.15mm range just seems hopeful when their surfaces look like this:
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But true we don't really have the full story about the drawing.
 
DoNotFeedTheSneed said:
Thinking of getting an AK. I already know the basic advice (i.e. don’t buy American because basically every American made AK is shit), but I’ve still yet to narrow down the exact model I want specifically. I’m currently torn between a WASR-10 that’s been sitting in my local gun shop and a WBP Jack.

Either way, I already know how I want to set it up. I’m going to replace the handguard and grip with Magpul MOE stuff, replace the stock with a Zhukov, and get a Holosun ARO and put it on a side rail mount. I just don’t know what rifle I’m going to put all that stuff on. (Was also considering Zastava but I don’t want to bother with getting a bunch of proprietary stuff for it)

There’s pros and cons for both. The WASR is cheaper and it means that I don’t have to deal with the insanely high transfer fees in my area, but the WBP has a much better finish, much better QC (from what I’ve heard), and I can get the WBP without any furniture.

What do you guys think I should go with?
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I have a powerful weakness for Arsenal (Bulgarian) AKs; especially the older models, like the milled SLR-series (ie. SLR-95, SLR-101, etc). They're kinda pricey though, and I'm not sure about the build standards with their current-day rifles. But they used to be some of the best AKs on the market back when I got into them during the ban years (and shortly thereafter).
 
DoNotFeedTheSneed said:
Thinking of getting an AK. I already know the basic advice (i.e. don’t buy American because basically every American made AK is shit), but I’ve still yet to narrow down the exact model I want specifically. I’m currently torn between a WASR-10 that’s been sitting in my local gun shop and a WBP Jack.

Either way, I already know how I want to set it up. I’m going to replace the handguard and grip with Magpul MOE stuff, replace the stock with a Zhukov, and get a Holosun ARO and put it on a side rail mount. I just don’t know what rifle I’m going to put all that stuff on. (Was also considering Zastava but I don’t want to bother with getting a bunch of proprietary stuff for it)

There’s pros and cons for both. The WASR is cheaper and it means that I don’t have to deal with the insanely high transfer fees in my area, but the WBP has a much better finish, much better QC (from what I’ve heard), and I can get the WBP without any furniture.

What do you guys think I should go with?
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As someone who has owned and played with almost every AK on the market currently you're looking at two fairly decent options. Make no mistake however that they are incredibly different in terms of overall fit and finish. Romanian WASRs are fairly rough around the edges with a shitty finish, sometimes canted iron sights and a receiver that doesn't even have a properly dimpled magwell. Plus IIRC the magazine well also isn't cut from the factory like their Draco pistols but are instead finished out by the monkeys over at Century Arms, so that's another thing to worry about. It will run anything you throw at it however, in terms of reliability it's G2G as far as I'm concerned. I'd go with the WBP over the WASR for sure, the Jack is the highest quality AK import in recent years bar none and with Russian AKs not coming back anytime soon it's going to be kind of a no brainer at the price range you're looking at. WBPs have FB Radom manufactured CHF CL barrels and the important parts are all forged. The ONLY thing you have to worry about with the WBP is that from what I remember their pistons are a 922(r) part and are fairly shitty.
DocAwe said:
THe only AKs I recommend to people anymore is the Galil ACE.
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The Galils are excellent, I'm partial to milled AKs myself and the ACE is no exception. The problem you're going to run into is that if you want a GEN 1 Galil ACE like the one shown in the photo you're basically not going to be able to find one except for insane money. The GEN 2 Galils are fucking awful pieces of trash that don't even come with iron sights, have a terrible MLOK rail that you'll quickly replace and a bunch of other parts IWI cheaped out on because they are slimy Jews that will gut their best rifle while charging the EXACT same amount of money as before.
Fount of BadSpeak said:
Zastava and yugoslavian pattern AK type rifles
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Zastava is decent for the money but terribly over gassed even for an AK. My fucking M70 recoiled like a 308 without a brake and it's by far the most violent recoiling AK pattern rifle I've shot in my entire life to the point where I sold it without a regret in the world. Zastava also has QC issues so good luck with that one - and the incompatibility with standard AKM or AK-100 century series rifles does hold it back.
Fount of BadSpeak said:
If I was me, and Zastava wasn't around, I would just splurge and get an overpriced Arsenal AK instead.
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Arsenals are king. Mic drop, end of story no exceptions whatsoever. Arsenal may charge out the ass for their monopoly on type 3 milled AKs but by God are they the best fucking thing on the market right now. Arsenal makes their rifles receiver, barrel and all out of their plant in Kazanlak, Bulgaria and uses Steyr technology to make hot die hammer forged receivers and cold hammer forged barrels that will last you literally multiple lifetimes. It's a rifle that according to Battlefield Las Vegas can last a firing schedule of over 300,00 rounds of full auto without so much as a fucking hiccup - no keyholing no nothing. The machining on Arsenals are second to none and you'll never get the pseudo BHO "bolt hang" the likes of which you typically see on roughly made AK pattern rifles. Many Arsenals also come with an ambi safety almost the same as the Galil as well but with S/F being in the total opposite direction. Shooting an Arsenal milled AK the felt recoil and smoothness of the action is simply fantastic, sometimes I don't even believe I'm shooting something in 7.62x39 when I'm firing mine. Just look at a milled type 3 AK being fired in slow motion and you'll see the total lack of flex in the receiver as it's being fired. If you don't mind just dropping some fat stacks and buying the best of the best that's what I'd get.

t. AK Nerd who is WAY too into this shit.
 
Jewthulhu said:
Is anyone familiar what the legal process is for inheriting NFA items after a death? I had a death in the family who didn't have a will or anything and I'd like to take possession of his silencers and SBR.
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I'm sorry for your loss. This is yet another perfect reason for wanting the NFA abolished. Law-abiding citizens should not be made, or risk being made, into felons from an unexpected death in the family.
 
Like 5 years ago I bought my girlfriend a p320. We broke up shortly after and she kept the Sig. I find this history symbolic.
 
WhoBusTank69 said:
trench art furniture
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The "trench art" I've seen is just some jack ass scratching a feminine sounding Slavic name into the wood. Always looks terrible and is in Latin letters to boot, some "art" that shit is.
DocAwe said:
THe only AKs I recommend to people anymore is the Galil ACE.
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I love the Galil, the ACE on the other hand has looked so ugly and unlike an AK I've never been sold on one. They sacrificed too much form going for function.
 
WhoBusTank69 said:
Are they? Granted it was post-COVID but I've seen posts about them looking rough, like they lowered their standards.
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In terms of sheer durability and overall quality it really is the best. I know that some people have had specific troubles with certain models like the SAM5 being over gassed and beating itself to death over time for a reason that Arsenal refuses to elaborate on. Arsenal uses a kind of weird paint on all of their rifles that doesn't always come out looking the best. That being said I've never had the sometimes shoddy finish come back to bite me in the ass and cause issues like surface rust or anything like that, but you may notice your Arsenal rifle turning "gold" after many shooting sessions.

As I said before you're not going to be able to shoot out an Arsenal, it's practically impossible. It'd take multiple generations of you, your kids and your grandkids shooting that fucking thing full auto 24/7 to even get close to the kind of round count that could make one of those things buckle. Milled receivers are objectively superior because they don't have the flex that you'd see in a stamped receiver, making them better hosts for red dots and scopes. They overall have an advantage when it comes to accuracy as well due to these factors. Due to the Arsenals having a milled receiver when it comes to 922(r) compliance they have less work to do on the imported rifles and they typically have more Bulgarian made parts as a result. Yes, they are indeed heavy (just lift more bro) but the weight soaks up the recoil effortlessly.
 
biglurker said:
What the hell is going to happen to the flux-raider when the P320 gets sent to the farm?
Imagine if it becomes a Beretta or Glock kit...
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They used to do Glock chassis but went all in on FCU designs after the 320 came out. Hopefully they're fast tracking other options now that 320 stuff is blowing up. I wanted one but even before all the drama the 320 was just wholly undesirable to me so I passed

Is there anything that the 320 was ever considered to do well? Even when it was new it was just way too boring to me and didn't have a track record like Glocks do to at least have 'workhorse' appeal, for lack of a better word
 
AncientPhosphur said:
On the AK topic only reason I’d want one is to turn it into a tricked out Russian Spetsnaz AK. But then I contemplate it and think “I already have an AR why would I need a platform where the ammo is no longer cheap and weights a ton”
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I don't own any firearms myself (maybe in the future), but from my POV the only reason to get an AK is that it's a fun platform, and you want it as a collectable. Which usually means that getting something that resembles something that has been in service. Of course, with the war in Ukraine, that basically gives you unlimited options if you want to go that way. So may ways to customize your AK to look like something that is being used in combat right now.

But the idea of modernizing an AK to become a practical rifle is flawed IMO. Just get an AR (or some other magpul adaptor) then, UNLESS you want to run subsonic 7.62x39. That's a useful application. Otherwise, there is no practical application where the AK beats a modern AR-15 or AR-18. Not even with the price and price of ammo, which used to be a thing.

I would obviously want to own some form of a Valmet/SAKO, because those I got to handle during military service. But those are stupid expensive even here in Finland, as their production ended over 25 years ago. You are probably paying something like 2000 euros for a used one, when brand new in the 90s they were around 3800-5500 Finnish marks, which inflation adjusted would be like 800-1100 euros today.
 
AncientPhosphur said:
On the AK topic only reason I’d want one is to turn it into a tricked out Russian Spetsnaz AK. But then I contemplate it and think “I already have an AR why would I need a platform where the ammo is no longer cheap and weights a ton”
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I think probably one of the only reasons why people bother with alpha AK's is because they look cool, which is fair, they look pretty sick ngl. I wouldn't mind building one someday.
 
Autistic Gunspergings said:
I think probably one of the only reasons why people bother with alpha AK's is because they look cool, which is fair, they look pretty sick ngl. I wouldn't mind building one someday.
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If you can own firearms as a right (meaning you don't have to justify the reason of getting one), being "cool" is as good of a reason as any.
 
Randomly stumbled across this news article from South Korea:
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KR Thread 'Man in his 60s shoots son with homemade shotgun at birthday gathering in Incheon'

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By Hankookilbo
  • Published Jul 21, 2025 9:26 am KST
  • Updated Jul 21, 2025 12:12 pm KST
A 63-year-old man has been arrested for fatally shooting his son with a homemade shotgun during a family gathering held in celebration of the suspect’s own birthday in Incheon.

According to the Incheon Yeonsu Police Station on Monday, the suspect was taken into custody on charges of murder and violating the law on firearms, swords and explosives.

Police said the weapon used was a crude, pipe-style homemade shotgun loaded with two rounds...
Reactions:Informative x 2 Like x 1 Thunk-Provoking x 3

Haven’t seen any photos of the pipe guns he made but I’m curious if they are similar in design to the one used to kill Shinzo Abe
 
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