Mega Rad Gun Thread

[Particle Bored]

It's so cute when little guys start dressing like their big brothers.

 

[code123]

i like psa stuff, never had any issues with the 3 or 4 i have, dont shoot enough rifle to really say though, but all i buy are the complete uppers, lowers i have always built myself.

i think i spent less then 200 on a few of them with bcg/charging handle. only ever had issues when i was feeding them super cheep ammo and you cant blame the gun for that.
all the issues i hear about them come from people disassembling them complaining about the barrel nut torque, less about functional issues. and i dont ever think i would take mine apart.

i also like that they are trying to make some cool original gun designs, i liked a few from that poll earlier this year.
really liked the manual action 45 pistol, the msp 45, was sad it did not win but i can see how it did not generate that much hype.


i really feel like they should be the glock of ars but they end up being the hi point.

 

[Polock]

I need to buy a riser for the EOTech first

To be honest, I really hate the EOTech but it 100% fits on the Vector and its what I'm going to use as well. I haven't decided what the base platform is going to be, whether I get the carbine version and wait to get the tax stamp when its free, or just go for the SBR first. I definitely want to get a can for it too.

I also kinda like the carbine with the barrel shroud but there's no way I would run a suppressor on that.

but it was just cheap ball ammo

How cheap we talking? Are we talking ammo you bought from some vaguely brown guy that came loose in a plastic bag or are we talking name brand but still FMJ?

They're normally like $75 or something like that.

Yeah they're kinda expensive normally. I wonder if you can run them in a Glock or if the spring is going to be too strong and will mess with things. They advise to get a reloading tool.

 

[Boney]

To be honest, I really hate the EOTech

Hmmm... why?

 

[Samhain]

11.5"

This is currently my favorite barrel length for 5.56. Squeezes a little more velocity out of the round compared to 10.3/10.5", and heavier projectiles (69-77gr) still put a decent amount of ft-lbs of energy on a target out to 300 yards. Not too long with a typical ~6" can on the end of it.

Guys are free to put together whatever they want if they're worried about having to shoot bad guys at 500 yards when society collapses and M193 is all you can find on fallen enemies. I'd rather have something short and suppressed for more far more likely scenarios. I still have my trusty old 16" anyway.

 

[societyguy01]

i like psa stuff, never had any issues with the 3 or 4 i have, dont shoot enough rifle to really say though, but all i buy are the complete uppers, lowers i have always built myself.

For me personally part of getting into guns is having something that will retain some value so that liquidating a piece for cash is something entirely on the table. You won't believe how many gun store owners I've talked to who have had these poor Poverty State Armory owners come in to flip one of their broke ass builds only to be told that it in fact will not sell. People coming in with entire collections worth of PSA for consignment or sale typically end up leaving with the look of death on their faces because they realize they aren't getting shit back. I've sold some PSA AK stuff before getting maybe 64% of my money back but only because I strategically chose to buy guns from them that were not in current production by any other competitor. But yeah, ask me about their AKs in terms of quality, holy shit.

If PSA works for you at the end of the day it's your money. Better that you go and shoot some cheap PSA rifle on the regular than be a hipster and never ever shoot your 5000 dollar LMT MWS build.

 

[Bassomatic]

Hmmm... why?

Probably because poor.

#triji whore.

Speaking of PSA, PA is looking to legalize semi auto hunting... and I mentioned my gun build class.... I want an AR10 so badly now and know the pro to make it. (he also is good at making BARs... but cost) I have a SKS literally the innawoods gun.. but want more things.

I took my SKS out this weekend and reminded my self that gun kicks ass a mojo site lets you sling it well within its "max" range of 300 yards.

PSA is well good and bad they are kick ass for 2A and memes but sometimes a bit off. Nothing that little work can't fix. When I took my class we worked on my dad's PSA lower I built for him.. but the smith told me (super great guy anyone in PA area I'll share info) PSA is easy to fix "issues"

hope you all are doing well.

 

[Samhain]

But yeah, ask me about their AKs in terms of quality, holy shit.

I'm not an AK enjoyer, but I've seen a few videos by M26 Lemon Grenade on YT where he discussed the various problems that PSA AKs have. I avoid PSA in general, but I would absolutely avoid their AKs. Their piston JAKL rifle also has many issues. Any video I've seen from any guntuber who isn't a shill has mentioned problems with their JAKL, even if they still liked the rifle overall.

 

[Bassomatic]

We live in a weird time line, I'm not thrilled with PSA AKs... and an AK costs a lot more than AR I am getting old.

 

[societyguy01]

I'm not an AK enjoyer, but I've seen a few videos by M26 Lemon Grenade on YT where he discussed the various problems that PSA AKs have. I avoid PSA in general, but I would absolutely avoid their AKs. Their piston JAKL rifle also has many issues. Any video I've seen from any guntuber who isn't a shill has mentioned problems with their JAKL, even if they still liked the rifle overall.

Their problems along with the price makes picking one a poor decision. For the price of any of the so called AK-100 series PSA slop (which are copies of Bulgarian pattern SLR rifles) you could just pony up for a WBP jack for under a grand. There's no reason to take that kind of unnecessary risk on an American AK when it's a buyers market and all the end of the world panic buying shit is finally over. Even WASR prices are apparently starting to go down from $1000+ back down to the 800s. The market is healing, I hope cope.

 

[Smoke Manmuscle]

Come back and post this when PSA find's their torque wrench and we can nod in agreement. Until then, PSA is fucking based but you should show your support for them by buying their very good(!) ammo and not their very bad ARs.

I know details of their ammo manufacturing operation and unless things have changed in the past year they are running on borrowed time. I hate to be all trust me bro you will have to believe me on this.

 

[Club Sandwich]

if it's worth anything, i've been pretty happy with my 1987 colt commando (big pin lower is a bit annoying though) in 11.5 and it can ring 8" steel at 300 meters with field sights all day. that's the type of work i want out of it and any further i would pick something else or just not engage. the size is just right for a pack or duffle, for humping around the country, or indoors or getting into/out of vehicles without choking up on it. clearing huts with a full length A2 sucked hard ngl.

i think having some kind of reliable, comfortable carbine that is short enough that - if a suppressor is added) is still a reasonable fighting rifle length is more ideal these days than not. a pump shotgun for experienced shooters that want to use varying loads is another option but that gets very niche very fast. learning and getting good with a few common platforms can really open up different weapons and adapt your marksmanship to something you can lean into and isn't awkward or too expensive, or too hard to find ammo/parts for, et c. even if it's PSA, AR-15's are lego rifles in the sense that there's a lot of parts to make a lot of builds and someone that wants to re-sale probably lacks friends that could use a cheap working rifle. for that example of someone trying to sell all their PSA gear, imho it would do more good to put that in the hands of a good friend and get a group together with stuff that works.

 

[code123]

something that will retain some value

This is a good point and not something i had thought about, selling guns feels like some sort of blasphemy to me the thought has never crossed my mind, i would probably become homeless and sleep under my gun safe if times where tough.

Better that you go and shoot some cheap PSA rifle on the regular than be a hipster and never ever shoot your 5000 dollar LMT MWS build

this is pretty much where i am at, i just dont have time to go shoot, and when i do i just shoot handguns.

its shit for ranges around where i live, the place i go to shoot is about an hour away and its a private club, im not a member so i have to try and get others to go shoot and it sucks trying to find a time to go, and when i do go there are always a bunch of fudds at the rifle range bitching about having a "modern sporting rifle", and just normal fud shit.

but when i go pistol shooting we can get an entire range to ourselves (they have a few independent pistol ranges) and the guys over there are usually cooler and more relaxed if we have to share.

 

[TerminalTryHard]

I've never bought the whole PSA making rifles for people who can't afford an expensive rifle because everyone I've met or seen with a PSA rifle always has like fucking six of the things.

 

[Rainbow Idiot]

BEAR CREEK ARSENAL ON THE OTHER HAND CAN BURN IN HELL FOR SWINDELING AND THIEVERY.

I had a bear creek upper in 7.62x39. Was probably my second worst purchase and was almost completely useless

 

[Historical Strelkov]

What is the glock of rifles?
Is it a Colt LE6920?
I feel the paralysis of analysis with ARs specifically because there's just so many manufacturers, and because of that there's all sorts of splitting of hairs about it.

I don't have the means to go into this kind of detail. I don't know if my build is completely in spec or whatever, it feels unnerving compared to my pistols. How much does it cost for someone to do a proper QC anyway?

 

[Pretend To Imagine]

What is the glock of rifles?
Is it a Colt LE6920?
I feel the paralysis of analysis with ARs specifically because there's just so many manufacturers, and because of that there's all sorts of splitting of hairs about it.

I don't have the means to go into this kind of detail. I don't know if my build is completely in spec or whatever, it feels unnerving compared to my pistols. How much does it cost for someone to do a proper QC anyway?

BCM, SOLGW, and Geissele have good reputations. No one is exempt from QC issues sadly.

 

[WhoBusTank69]

I don't know where I got it from, but I have a steel AR-15 charging handle.
Why the fuck would someone make this

I've never bought the whole PSA making rifles for people who can't afford an expensive rifle because everyone I've met or seen with a PSA rifle always has like fucking six of the things.

It's the "One is none, Two is one" phenomenon. Or they just hate money.

 

[big pauper]

This might be beating a dead horse w/r/t sig but it's been bugging me. its the death rattles of boomers in the industry, isnt it?

guns have been a thing that are pretty much "vibe checked" because there's the automatic assumption that anything that's backed by a big corporation or the government is going to be trustworthy enough. obviously that is not "true" and in many ways you are going to get screwed over by going along this path of reasoning as many people have through history, not the people who just bought an m4 and an m9 though. However, on the flipside, in the last 30 years, mainstream pop culture has pretty much entirely capitulated on the idea that big corporations or the government are even capable of providing anything at all. i dont think the public has had one iota of trust in any public institution or corporation in the last decade, people walk around with the assumption that they're cutting every corner possible and going out of their way to screw individuals over. A surplus firearm is a victory over the state's incompetency not the providence of government policy

The whole ass gun industry still operates on the former logic, that if the vibe is good the gun is probably good enough, but then sig rolled around and started doubling down on the 320. They're firmly acting like apple or any other retarded corporation biting the hand that feeds out of hubris and i think a lot of people just plainly see where it's going which is why so many ranges just banned the gun. To all the people who still think that the world works on hippie vibes though, this whole thing is what they would call "a nothingburger" because the government and sig says the vibes are still good.

 

[Boney]

imho it would do more good to put that in the hands of a good friend and get a group together with stuff that works

Exactly how my crew got started. Me handing out shitrods and never shutting the fuck up about it. Next thing you know are are holding events and running around larperating on 500acres of land.