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Got this beauty in the mail. Never had a flintlock or muzzle loader but I think I'm gonna enjoy building this kit.

Kibler Woodsrunner in .54 Cal (Rifled)
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Fuck was all excited opening my new gun and I find out about Charlie Kirk...
 
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Never had a flintlock or muzzle loader but I think I'm gonna enjoy building this kit.
A BP gun is on my list, I was thinking an 1851 Navy repro. Not gonna lie, a big part of the appeal is being able to have it mailed to you directly.

You'd best post pictures when its done. Are you hunting with it or just enjoying it for its own merits?
 
A BP gun is on my list, I was thinking an 1851 Navy repro. Not gonna lie, a big part of the appeal is being able to have it mailed to you directly.

You'd best post pictures when its done. Are you hunting with it or just enjoying it for its own merits?

Will do. Gonna go old school with iron nitrate on the wood and slow rust bluing.

Definitely hope to hunt with it. Was kind of getting bored of modern guns.
I originally was enamored with the idea of getting a Brown Bess clone but went with this since it's fairly handy for a bp gun around 7.5lbs with a slightly shorter than typical barrel. .54 should be really great at taking down a deer.

Kibler is coming out with some cool stuff soon like a Hawken, a pistol, and a long land Brown Bess soon. Breathing some life into the bp scene which has been pretty stale with poor quality Indian stuff.
 
Jesus Christ, you guys see the video of Charlie Kirk getting shot in the throat? That had to be a proper rifle cartridge; when I first heard about it, I assumed he got tagged with a handgun and was ok, but this was a full on assassination. I wonder what the fallout of such a high profile political killing will be. Will the feds finally have the balls to label far leftists as domestic terrorists?
 
Jesus Christ, you guys see the video of Charlie Kirk getting shot in the throat? That had to be a proper rifle cartridge; when I first heard about it, I assumed he got tagged with a handgun and was ok, but this was a full on assassination. I wonder what the fallout of such a high profile political killing will be. Will the feds finally have the balls to label far leftists as domestic terrorists?
I'm betting .308 hunting rifle. Full metal jacket. It's a crying shame it happened, and an absolute tragedy in the human sense.

God Bless your soul Charlie.
 
True Velocity has debuted their new (ugly) RM834 Light machinegun (bad name)


Multicaliber can: 7.62, 6.5 Creed, 6.8 TVC, theoretically 6.8x51 Sig.
Weight: 12.4-15.6lbs depending on configuration
RPM: 525-575
Might have the capability t fire from either a closed or open bolt (The TFB Article implies that their website implies this but not from what I can see)
TFB Article
https://archive.ph/zYURk True Velocity site page
https://archive.ph/bd0bW
Link to video of the gun firing
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/garrett-pellerzi_the-latest-game-changer-from-true-velocity-activity-7364424468124925952-wHNW/
Factory produced metal discarding sabot 7x 4.5mm anti drone 5.45
The TV LMG looks awesome. Too bad Big Army won't but it, instead sticking with whatever massive price of shit SIG bribed their way into supplying. Lol no QCB US Army.

The anti drone rifle ammo is fascinating
Attention all Century AK buyers, please report for reception of your Fell For it Again Awards
Ahaha lol. Century makes the worst AKs on Earth.
For the sake of visual comparison
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I don't know, I'd have to handle them. When I had a Shield(first version single-stack in 9x19) I was plenty accurate with it and the recoil was much better than any other subcompact at the time. The grip being thinner front to back makes me imagine it would give me hand cramps.
The grip is also thinner sid two side by a tiny bit so it'll fell harder.

The Shield plus is basically perfect, a little bit thicker than the OG Shield but not a lot at all.

The new Shield X is essentially a scaled up Bodyguard 2.0 grip.
I think I have tinnitus now because of some faggot at the indoor range magdumping his muzzle braked AR in the lane next to mine. The eeeeeeeeeeee won't stop.
There goes the cillia in your ears at that particular frequency. Sorry man.
Late but I will second the Shadow 2 being excellent if you want a hammer fired pistol. Additionally, Wathers Performance Duty Trigger is by far the nicest trigger I've ever felt on a striker fired gun. My dad has a PDP SF and its a big honking thing but its a joy to shoot.
Hell even the "basic" CZ SP01 is an outstanding hammer fired full size 9mm.
What kind of ear pro? I hate earmuff style and swear by the foam insert in your ear kind. Gotta seal up that ear canal. Of course with some guns concussion can be a problem.
I have been doubling up on in ear foam and walker razor/similar for years.

Eventually I want the fancy in war molded electronic ones.
Yeah I mean my actual hearing seems to be normal so far, so I'm hoping it may have just been temporary ear damage. The eeeee has gone down a bit since yesterday so maybe. Would just be fucking pissed if I damaged my hearing because of someone else entirely.
You lose a small frequency range 🥲


designed for it? yes. worth it the weight and added complexity to a quick change barrel? no. it's even dubious for fixed barrel GPMGs with modern barrel linings. this has been asked in this thread already iirc.

the biggest improvement to small arms that should be reached for currently is programmable, miniaturized munitions for fixed guns. we have that for grenades and we have it for artillery, why not 25mm, 20mm, or .50 BMG? there is a certain point where the delivery vehicle is too small for it to be a difference, but there has to be something better than the FRAG-12 or Mk 211 that will work for area targets in a meaningful capacity that isn't obscenely expensive or require an obtuse logistics chain. currently we have to lug a Mk 19 for that capacity or just chew up barriers with a mounted M2 rather than just load a 50 round belt of something nice to end a fight sooner rather than later.

also why aren't spotting rounds a thing for small arms? have an electronic sight track and ID a tracer of a known color down range, watch the impact, then use that to guide further crosshairs onto that target. human in control and you can just ignore the marker, but it'd sure help in some cases. heck feed that distance to an electronically fused grenade launcher or something.
I think it was discovered that 25mm (really 30mm tbh) was absolute as small as you could go with smart shells and still have enough explosive filler to make it worthwhile.

You might be able to get some "smarts" in something as small as .50 cal or the diameter of a 12 gauge shell but probably not a proximity fuse or similar.

I still want a smart gyrojet rifle and pistol
From my own personal hearing loss etc. Yeah if it comes back/hasn't gone away. the EEEE is temp and you'll be okay. Don't do that tho.

I lost almost my hearing in my left ear because I like Scuba diving and was poor, I blame Delta lol.


I am far from an electronics wiz, but I think we'll have "Aliens" smart guns before we have "personal" smart ammo. I've seen some of the amazing stuff we can do to adjust even 155 shells and smaller like the ODO76mm DP guns on ships. But I think something the size and weight of a Maxim that has some crazy thermal lock on firing normal ball ammo seems closer than a 50 BMG with fins that pop up to move around.

Just my 02.

Also I was today years old when I learned 429 Deagle branded Deagle bullets are a thing, and it's pretty dope despite not really my thing.
Alien smart guns are essentially do-able with current tech.

The smallest "smart fused" shells in use today are 30mm.
Have you seen what the safety looks like on a 2011? It's a giant shelf that your thumb naturally falls on as you form your grip.
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(The extra bit of metal along the slide allows you to rest your thumb against the slide without slowing it down)

They're not tiny narrow levers in an awkward spot like what most "carry" guns have (because you can't have a giant piece sticking out the side on a gun meant to be concealed):
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A manual safety on a striker-fired polymer carry gun is unnecessary.
Ehh the manual safety on the S&W striker pistols bigger than the micro carry stuff is perfect IMHO
Nigga, I don't like the way Glocks look. They're bulky, blocky, and ugly as fuck. However, I bought one because they just work.

Don't be a faggot, get a Glock. (An H&K is also acceptable.)
Get a Glock clone
I couldn't care less about how a self defense weapon looks. What I do care about is how they shoot, and GLOCKs simply don't shoot well for me. They fit my hand poorly and I have to work harder to shoot well with them compared to other pistols. When drawing a GLOCK and bringing it on target, if I do so where it naturally feels "right" for me then the front sight is always way too high over the rear sights. I have to consciously cock my hand down to line the sights properly. Whereas with an HK, a 1911, a SIG, CZ, Beretta...pretty much most other pistols will have the sights either properly aligned, or close enough that only a minor adjustment needs to be made. I've never fired another pistol where I've had to consciously and uncomfortablt cock my hand forward/down to get the sights in alignment like I do with GLOCKs.

If GLOCKs work well for you, great. If you like them, great. They're a perfectly serviceable pistol. But they're not some be-all/end-all universal weapon for anyone and everyone. That's why there are so many different makes and models available. There's no one-size-fits-all pistol.
Plus now good Gen 3 Glock clones are EVERYWHERE
 
Friday on my podcast I'm going to encourage everyone to buy firearms. If you would like to give suggestions for first time gun buyers, please concisely reply to this post. Keep in mind different states, different budgets, and different situations. Are you particularly passionate about city self defense in California? Do you have three different high quality firearms for Texas? Give me some diversity here. Don't be cringe.
 
Friday on my podcast I'm going to encourage everyone to buy firearms. If you would like to give suggestions for first time gun buyers, please concisely reply to this post. Keep in mind different states, different budgets, and different situations. Are you particularly passionate about city self defense in California? Do you have three different high quality firearms for Texas? Give me some diversity here. Don't be cringe.
There is this thread from Boney which has some very solid advice

My personal suggestions are the following. Every person should have a 9mm handgun and a AR-15 platform rifle. Below are some options that I usually recommend.
HandgunRifle
Glock G19/G19 MOS | $550Smith & Wesson M&P-15 | $800 USD
Ruger RXM | $400 PSA AR-15 16" | $350 to $450

With regards to accessories, it's important to have a light on your handgun and a sling for your rifle. For the AR-15 a red dot like the Sig Romeo5 is a good choice, however you can still be a proficient shooter with just irons.

Most importantly you need to spend time in the range. Even if it's just once every couple months. A firearm is useless without training and proficiency.
 
Friday on my podcast I'm going to encourage everyone to buy firearms. If you would like to give suggestions for first time gun buyers, please concisely reply to this post. Keep in mind different states, different budgets, and different situations. Are you particularly passionate about city self defense in California? Do you have three different high quality firearms for Texas? Give me some diversity here. Don't be cringe.
If you can only get one then get a handgun that you can conceal carry. Statically that's the one you're most likely to use so you should prioritize that above getting a "fighting rifle" if you're destitute. Not that you shouldn't eventually get a rifle or shotgun though
 
Friday on my podcast I'm going to encourage everyone to buy firearms. If you would like to give suggestions for first time gun buyers, please concisely reply to this post. Keep in mind different states, different budgets, and different situations. Are you particularly passionate about city self defense in California? Do you have three different high quality firearms for Texas? Give me some diversity here. Don't be cringe.
Most of these are for the rich man or the poor man. A couple hundred dollars shouldn't make or break your purchase decision. If it does you probably can't afford to learn to shoot it properly.

General pistols (because most normies won't like concealed carrying a firearm this size):
Glock 19
M&P 2.0

Smaller concealed carry pistols:
Glock 43X
Shield Bodyguard 2.0

Rifle:
AR15 (IWI Zion, S&W M&P 15, BCM AR15s)

There are more expensive options but as a basic tool like a hammer, any of these guns will do just fine.
 
Friday on my podcast I'm going to encourage everyone to buy firearms. If you would like to give suggestions for first time gun buyers, please concisely reply to this post. Keep in mind different states, different budgets, and different situations. Are you particularly passionate about city self defense in California? Do you have three different high quality firearms for Texas? Give me some diversity here. Don't be cringe.
Glock (9mm) and Name brand AR-15s (5.56/.223) from the likes of Ruger, Smith & wesson, PSA etc. generic, easy to use and common.

I'm going to be spending 3-4k over the next week to try and get in before a panic, if such a thing occurs. two guns, a lot of powder and primers and associated accessories. having to accelerate my purchase schedule out of an abundance of caution.

edit: my retarded ass bought a new scope for my soon to be ordered model 70 and forgot to order .30-06 dies. now I've got to pay shipping AGAIN. URGGGGGGH
 
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Friday on my podcast I'm going to encourage everyone to buy firearms. If you would like to give suggestions for first time gun buyers, please concisely reply to this post. Keep in mind different states, different budgets, and different situations. Are you particularly passionate about city self defense in California? Do you have three different high quality firearms for Texas? Give me some diversity here. Don't be cringe.
The foreign gun contingent seldomly gets mentioned but I like to remind those behind enemy lines that gun permits are not that difficult to get and that when things get really bad it absolutely pays off to have a pump action shotgun (something that can easily be own in essentially all western nations) that you can go out with and a handgun to keep in your waistband concealed as things break down.

The guns themselves are less important (Glock 19 and Maverick 88 are the basic, rock solid and cheap options) but trying to get some of the retards outside of America to embrace freedom is more important, especially if they're in Europe or in my case the Southern Cross.

Look at the South African riots, or hell in Argentina during 2023 there were pre election riots where shop owners were in the streets with semiautomatic shotguns and I was entrenched with a HiPower and a shotgun with my gym buddies.
 
Friday on my podcast I'm going to encourage everyone to buy firearms. If you would like to give suggestions for first time gun buyers, please concisely reply to this post. Keep in mind different states, different budgets, and different situations. Are you particularly passionate about city self defense in California? Do you have three different high quality firearms for Texas? Give me some diversity here. Don't be cringe.
If you are cursed living in IL, just buy a boring Glock, M&P Shield, or Berettas (all popular in the state). You can easily get these without threaded barrels and with 15 round mags (the most we can have in this hell state legally but only for pistols). Glock has the easiest to get accessories, and that is speaking from walking into brick and mortar gun stores in the state, not to mention online. 9mm is everywhere, so don't bother with other cartridges unless you want to buy it online. Do not bother with revolvers since post-covid gun shops almost never properly stock .357, .44 mag, and .38 special anymore (you will not find .45 LC in most gun shops). If you are buying ammo in bulk online anyway, consider 10mm with standard mags for the Glock and M&P variants sit right at the 15 round maximum.

Your options for rifles are limited and with 5 less shots legally than a pistol, so just hold off until the supreme court strikes down PICA. If you REALLY need a rifle for some reason, Ruger Mini-14 Ranchers (5.56, but you have to pay $50 to ruger per 10 round mag since the kikes only ship it with either 5, 20, or 30 rounders) and cucked M1As (.308) are everywhere. You could also just buy the cucked state classic SKS (7.62x39, Atlantic has Chinese ones still in stock for around $600) or a lever gun (post-covid you will not find .30-30 or .45-70 in physical shops similar to revolver cartridges though). Again, its better not to bother at all right now since pistols are relatively less cucked and generally cheaper (Mini-14s and M1As are in the $1.5-$2k ball park). Spend the money you would save on more ammo and a pistol optic in the future.

Name brand shotguns like the Mossburg Maverick 88 are cheap and durable from what I have heard. You are limited to a 5 shell tube though, so in my bias opinion its not nearly as worth it as the pistol. You can find decent 12 ga. shells as commonly as 9mm so that is a plus. Don't buy turkish firearms, when the Maverick 88 is only around $300.
 
Friday on my podcast I'm going to encourage everyone to buy firearms. If you would like to give suggestions for first time gun buyers, please concisely reply to this post. Keep in mind different states, different budgets, and different situations. Are you particularly passionate about city self defense in California? Do you have three different high quality firearms for Texas? Give me some diversity here. Don't be cringe.
The Smith and Wesson M&P shield should be top of the list, it's an extremely reliable, effective, user-friendly, and affordable pistol and one that can be recommended to anyone.

For a first time gun buyer getting something for personal defense it's pretty much best in class, legal everywhere, and is a good concealable option where that's a thing. Can also recommend the EZ series for older, weaker, or totally brand new people
 
Friday on my podcast I'm going to encourage everyone to buy firearms. If you would like to give suggestions for first time gun buyers, please concisely reply to this post. Keep in mind different states, different budgets, and different situations. Are you particularly passionate about city self defense in California? Do you have three different high quality firearms for Texas? Give me some diversity here. Don't be cringe.
I can fully recommend most CZ pistols, if they're in your budget. Otherwise, go for a bog standard Glock 17, ammo is never an issue, easy to use and modify, pretty too

If you're interested in shotguns, consider a Benelli, the M4 and M2 are great (but prone to rusting in moist conditions, prep for that)
 
Friday on my podcast I'm going to encourage everyone to buy firearms. If you would like to give suggestions for first time gun buyers, please concisely reply to this post. Keep in mind different states, different budgets, and different situations. Are you particularly passionate about city self defense in California? Do you have three different high quality firearms for Texas? Give me some diversity here. Don't be cringe.
Echoing others comments about what to buy. I'll add a few things to avoid:
  • turkshit, rule of thumb for new gun buyers avoid anything made in Turkey, ammo or firearms. Some of the cheapest crap comes out of that country. Decent turk guns exist, but they aren't the stuff new gun owners buy
  • overly tactical yet cheap, stuff that looks "cool" but goes for super cheap. Cheap semi auto shotguns made in Turkey or China. At most gun stores these will often be the cheapest long guns outside of 22lr/rimfire. Do not be fooled by the flash exterior or fancy name, sometimes they disguise them as popular non-shotgun firearms(AR15s, AKs, SCARs, etc.). Examples below:
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  • Saturday night specials, the cheapest handguns at the pawnshop. Too many examples to list, just about anything <$150 from a store. In many cases worse than a baseball bat or long knife, i.e. go bang into you or dont go bang at all.
  • Random odd calibers, stick to the common stuff for your first couple defensive firearms. Generally 9mm, 45acp, 380acp, 38 special, .357magum for handguns and .223/5.56mm, .308/7.62x51mm, 7.62x39mm(AKs), 12 gauge for long guns. Depending on your country/region this will vary. Check what calibers ammo your local stores stock and the calibers common among the guns on the racks/ in the cabinets. Don't fall for the "xyz caliber has the optimal performance for [unlikely scenario]" marketing. A reliable firearm in a caliber you can train and stock up on is better than something novel in a rare caliber with 5% better performance.
  • Cheap airsoft tier accessories, consider necessary accessories when budgeting. Don't buy a expensive gun and cheap out on accessories. Good holsters, sights, and lights can be found for reasonable prices, the cheap crap isnt worth it,.
Don't be afraid to ask questions, the gun market is full of bullshit marketing targeting low information buyers. The fine people of this thread and the other gun centric threads are happy to give our two-cents.
 
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Friday on my podcast I'm going to encourage everyone to buy firearms. If you would like to give suggestions for first time gun buyers, please concisely reply to this post. Keep in mind different states, different budgets, and different situations. Are you particularly passionate about city self defense in California? Do you have three different high quality firearms for Texas? Give me some diversity here. Don't be cringe.
If we're talking about first time gun owners, I agree with the other posters that you should probably be as simple as possible suggesting some kind of 9mm Glock and an AR made by a reputable American company like Smith & Wesson, Ruger, or Colt. Pretty much every gun store in the US has them and will sell the locally cucked version if necessary, so I don't think you need to mention local assault weapons bans or compliance etc. as it would be too confusing for a first time owner. Just go to the store's counter and ask for a Colt, s&w, or ruger brand AR.

I'd throw in looking into getting local training and/or basic ownership classes too and most importantly, to practice dry fire and visit the range often. Owning a gun alone isn't going to help if you can't use the damn thing.

Another thing is ammo, and I can't stress this enough; NEVER BUY RELOADS OR REMANUFACTURED AMMO. EVER. You WILL get a kaboom eventually and you and/or your gun will get critically damaged, and the company who sold it to you will disappear if it hadn't already. Overcharged ammo occasionally happens in automated, quality controlled environments like by major ammo manufacturers every now and then, so certainly bubba's pissin' hawt loads llc that has no guarantee quality control will definitely have more than a few. It's extremely tempting to buy the cheapest ammo on ammoseek or at a gun show, but it really isn't worth it in the long run. Again, to simplify for a first time owner, just buy ammo made by Federal, Hornady, Remington, or Winchester. Don't get anything labeled "remanned" or "remanufactured" or otherwise, and don't bother with anything non- American.

Also, before you do the gun segment, you need to play this song:
 
My personal suggestions are the following. Every person should have a 9mm handgun and a AR-15 platform rifle. Below are some options that I usually recommend.
HandgunRifle
Glock G19/G19 MOS | $550Smith & Wesson M&P-15 | $800 USD
Ruger RXM | $400PSA AR-15 16" | $350 to $450
Not being in the US I had never looked into gun prices; for whatever reason I didn't expect them to be so affordable.
 
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