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More Slavic duplex and anti-drone ammo:
Ukrainian-made & now being issued:
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TsKIB SOO counter-UAV STS-226 (545x39) and STs-228 (762x54)

The range is apparently 150 and 300 meters
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I still dont understand how they havent issued short barreled double/triple barreled shotguns in masse yet.
 
74164978231 said:
I still dont understand how they havent issued short barreled double/triple barreled shotguns in masse yet.
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Because such a piece of kit is essential useless for combat.*

Anyone who feels the need to smugly rebuttal like a Reddit faggot about WW1 era Germans crying about American shotguns deserves to be shotgunned right in the dick.
 
Mussolini’s Merkin said:
Back when the US was using .45-70 they’d issue issue birdshot rounds for small game hunting. Funny to think we’re getting back to that point.
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Double Tap has a load similar to these anti-drone rounds for .45-70 Gov and maybe a few others. I can't remember if they are duplex or triplex rounds, but they're pretty cool.
 
Anyone have experience with a BX trigger for the 10/22? Saw a good deal on a Hammerli B1 and they're compatible with 10/22 triggers.
 
Taser Confetti said:
Because such a piece of kit is essential useless for combat.*
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Im sure the god knows how many soldiers annihilated by drones waltzing up to them at a few mph would disagree.

No it would not counter every fpv drone threat, but it would get the individual something to defend themselves in many situations for the cost of almost nothing in the grand scheme of things.
 
74164978231 said:
Im sure the god knows how many soldiers annihilated by drones waltzing up to them at a few mph would disagree.

No it would not counter every fpv drone threat, but it would get the individual something to defend themselves in many situations for the cost of almost nothing in the grand scheme of things.
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Realistically, how many 12GA shells do you believe you can put on a rifleman? Now - does he room for anything else besides maybe a handgun and a spare mag?
 
Taser Confetti said:
Realistically, how many 12GA shells do you believe you can put on a rifleman? Now - does he room for anything else besides maybe a handgun and a spare mag?
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Where did I say you need to give them a combat load of shells?

Hell just a one time use shotgun would again be infinitely better situation than standing around with your dick in your hand while a drone dances around you taunting you until it decides to kill you.
 
Martys_not_smarty said:
Anyone have experience with a BX trigger for the 10/22? Saw a good deal on a Hammerli B1 and they're compatible with 10/22 triggers.
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Pretty decent improvement over the factory 10/22 trigger. Breaks around 3# or so with only a tiny bit of creep after you take up the slack. At the price point and for how easy it is to drop in, it's a no-brainer upgrade.

Dropped one in my red dot-equipped takedown and that thing is consistently everyone's favorite thing to shoot when it's just me and my friends plinking.
 
Just had this advertised at me, didn’t see any posts here about it, so may I introduced to everyone the KelTec SUB QCB. A factory made integrally suppressed SUB-2000.

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Now the Sub-2000 is the only factory new gun I have fired that I was worried was going to blow up in my face, so there’s no way I can see this being anything but awful.
 
Mussolini’s Merkin said:
Back when the US was using .45-70 they’d issue issue birdshot rounds for small game hunting. Funny to think we’re getting back to that point.
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Don't forget they also issued .45 ACP birdshot in WW2.
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Now tests of that vs drones would be mighty interesting. Dual purpose handguns seem a better idea to me than some of the wacky shotgun attachments out there, but then you're issuing handguns to troops that are also not that useful and might also be worse against drones. Still something worth testing I think. Might be ideal to go back to the big bore handgun rather than 9mm even given the case capacity advantages for anti drone shotshells, which would cause a whole new round of autistic caliber wars.
 
Mussolini’s Merkin said:
Just had this advertised at me, didn’t see any posts here about it, so may I introduced to everyone the KelTec SUB QCB. A factory made integrally suppressed SUB-2000.

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Now the Sub-2000 is the only factory new gun I have fired that I was worried was going to blow up in my face, so there’s no way I can see this being anything but awful.
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It already existed with an integral suppressor, the new version adds a couple features from the newer sub2000 models.
I would be interested if it wasn't made by KelTec, $1k is steep, even if the design ideas are cool.
 
Mussolini’s Merkin said:
Now the Sub-2000 is the only factory new gun I have fired that I was worried was going to blow up in my face, so there’s no way I can see this being anything but awful.
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The integrally suppressed version apparently has a more robust (i.e. not as sketchy) way that it locks after you unfold it.

I like how the newest version at Shotshow can adapt to a bunch of different magazines though, thats the kinda stuff I like.
 
Hatewerfer said:
Don't forget they also issued .45 ACP birdshot in WW2.
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Now tests of that vs drones would be mighty interesting. Dual purpose handguns seem a better idea to me than some of the wacky shotgun attachments out there, but then you're issuing handguns to troops that are also not that useful and might also be worse against drones. Still something worth testing I think. Might be ideal to go back to the big bore handgun rather than 9mm even given the case capacity advantages for anti drone shotshells, which would cause a whole new round of autistic caliber wars.
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I would be very concerned with velocity without even touching on pellet size or effect of shot through a rifled barrel, for example the Taurus Judge with its rifled barrel and .410 chambering sucks for anything beyond 7 feet. If you get into a purpose made compact shotgun(The original Taurus 28 gauge revolver for example) you still run into velocity issues. It's easier keeping a full-sized shotgun nearby or having a designated propeller-popper that actively uses one.
Personally, if you handed me a big bore handgun for shooting drones I'd tell you to pound sand.
 
74164978231 said:
I still dont understand how they havent issued short barreled double/triple barreled shotguns in masse yet.
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Extra bulk, extra kit, 90% or more of the grunts issued them will probably not be able to use them effectively and won't have the rounds or drones to practice with, and effective shooting with shotguns short enough to be remotely practical for this kind of issuing strategy is a bit of skill in and of itself. Also consider the most effective counter, which is just to not hover around taunting the targets at all, the primary situation where the average grunt would have the time and awareness to actually get some shots off.

Not to say I wouldn't be looking around for something to scavenge and cut-down if I was out conscripted into the meat grinder but there's no way the military is issuing everyone a special anti-drone weapon with its own distinct ammo.
 
WhatInTheActualFuck said:
Pretty decent improvement over the factory 10/22 trigger. Breaks around 3# or so with only a tiny bit of creep after you take up the slack. At the price point and for how easy it is to drop in, it's a no-brainer upgrade.

Dropped one in my red dot-equipped takedown and that thing is consistently everyone's favorite thing to shoot when it's just me and my friends plinking.
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Thanks for the tip seems like a no brainer now seeing as them Hammerli's have a pull of over 5 pounds, really looking forward to getting it seeing as they have swappable barrels and you can go from 22 long to 22 mag which is what I'm getting to a 17 hmr.
 
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