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Pulled this off X, Karl the Cuck is still seething at Ian
Mega Rad Gun Thread
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TTAG recently had a review about a Pedersoli side-by-side .44 Mag rifle. The design would suit the purpose, but that fancy wood, bluing and finish are overkill. Based on one vendor I've found, it's also $2,705.00. At that price you could get close to a dozen used military caliber bolt actions, much more suited to a survival situation.
But it sure is purdy, the wealthy hipster's perfect safe queen..
But it sure is purdy, the wealthy hipster's perfect safe queen..
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What are these fags referring to regarding Larry Vickers?
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That is extremely cheap for a double rifle. It makes me doubt it is regulated. Regulation of the bores, which determines where the rounds hit is a fine gunmaking art. a properly regulated double rifle can place the rounds less than an inch apart from each other at the target range (generally short for double rifles). A double rifle is regulated for a chosen loading at a given velocity and will be marginally accurate with other loads unless they duplicate the regulation load. often on old doubles you'll find the loading (projectile weight and velocity) stamped on the flat of the barrels. i'm sure you can get it to shoot just fine but you'll have a lot of load testing ahead of you.
Properly built double rifles, newly built cost at a minimum about 8 thousand dollars. Pedersoli does make a proper double rifle, a clone of the Colt 1878 hammer double rifle, it is regulated and a well made gun. and it shows in the price:
that is just about the cheapest double on the market. Merkel double .470s can be had for 8-9k if you spec out a base model. Heym makes what is considered the entry level double rifle at the bespoke level with a base level price of 15-20k. Bespoke used double rifles are really the way to go. you can get a W-R, H&H, Purdey or Rigby for around 10-15k in common cartridges like .470 or .500. Even cheaper if you get a Black Powder express double, but those can't be used for dangerous game. they're meant for deer and Elk.
A good double takes a lot of hand work to make, which is expensive.
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I kinda like the idea but so much about double rifles suck dick, especially if there's no tensioners to regulate the barrels. I just wish we could get proper double-barreled howdah pistols instead of their crappy .410/.45LC thing.
Those screencaps are ancient by now(see the Karl thread in Internet Famous) but Larry talked positively of Rhodesia in the Ian/Vickers FAL discussion.
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The shitty Baikals(Were they Baikal?) both the SxS and O/U had tensioning screws to adjust the barrels, which was impressive but the rest of the gun sure was bad.
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You tell the factory what cartridge loading you intend to use and the gunmaker regulates the rifle for that load and that load only. This is why these mass produced factory double rifles are generally not that accurate, because they are not regulated.
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Hi there, PSA is selling a CZ-82 chambered in 9 x 18 Makarov for about $200. They're beat to shit, but look cool and come with a free holster as well. However, Classic Firearms has a CZ-83 in 380 ACP in "good" condition for almost twice as much. I already have 380 ammo, but wouldn't mind buying a couple boxes of 9 x 18 just for the Model 82. I have no intention for using it outside of plinking, But I think I'd like it as a jacket carry during winter. Any thoughts on which I should go with?
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Look at the april fools video from forgotten weapons last year. If the real deal is anything like the fake he used in that video, it's pretty straightforward.
Contradictory statements. I'd have to be desperate in a dangerous world to carry a clapped out surplus gun like that pic of what PSA is selling. Not that I see a point in having a .380 that is every bit as large as a compact 9mm.
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Get the Beretta 84 instead.
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If I were you, I would buy the one in 9x18 and use the cost savings to buy some ammo. The free holster is a nice addition, and even if you jacket carry it for some reason, there are some Hornady hollow points in 9x18 that are ok. I wouldn't spend 400 on a milsurp handgun in 380. I would spend a little more and get a Bodyguard 2.0 or M&P Shield EZ if I wanted something actually viable for carrying, but that's just me.
If it's just "I want cool milsurp" then I would say get whichever suits your fancy. The PSA guns look rough for "good".
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You can count my vote towards the 83, 9x18 Makarov is no longer the optimal choice it was ~10 years ago now that there's appropriate .380 ammunition available.
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the good news is those 82's look worse than they actually are. it's just the coating is shit. and ngl you'd be a retard for carrying it. they're decently reliable but they're still decades-old surplus, and you REALLY don't wanna skimp out on something that could save your life if push comes to shove, unless you value being stylish over your own life, then do whatever. that goes for both the 82 and 83 btw.
if you decide to get it and like to dry fire, get an #83 rubber o ring to put on the back so the hammer doesn't hit the firing pin directly, or else you might damage it.
and FYI, if you're gonna buy it get it from RTI: https://royaltigerimports.com/shop/cz82-pistol-9x18-makarov-with-free-accessories/
they're the ones importing them and based on my friend's experience and online photo reviews i've seen, they're keeping more of the better ones to themselves. you also get more goodies for the same price.
no comment on the 83 besides the carry thing i said above, since i've never really looked into the civilian variant. personally i'd go the 82 and get some rounds for it since i would only have it as a cheap range toy that looks stylish.
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Why would you willingly support IO Inc?
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RTI is very "buyer beware" but these cz 82's are a known quantity. and all these 82's are coming from RTI anyways so no matter what you're supporting them. might as well get the best bang for your buck.
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Now I'm just waiting for my PST gen 2. Managed to find a like new one for only 350 with shipping
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The problem with it that is that it is way underpowered. Double rifles are meant for dangerous game cartridges, not pistol ammo.
If they made it in .500 Nitro Express I'd buy it because it is a bargain compared to what the competition charges.
That's just because they're luddites who don't use modern technology or manufacturing techniques. The Gilboa Snake is a double rifle that is user-regulatable with set screws, but it was designed by Israelis, not aristocratic Europeans.
Also, I prefer having the barrels be parallel to one another instead of converging. The spacing between barrels is an inch or so, not 15 feet like on a WWII fighter.
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Okay that got a giggle out of me.
The mechanism on display made some sense though I couldn't help but noticing how much wiggling and waggling it was doing under any handling at all. Assuming these aren't elaborate fakes (it wouldn't be too hard to make a fake which has a fairly standard 10ish round magazine hidden at the back of the tube so it will fire enough rounds for an action still) I wonder if they've done any fucking around with the receivers near the magazine well to try to mitigate the jitterbug the magazine inevitably tries to dance.