Mega Rad Gun Thread

[Norms Abused Liver]

After spending a day at the farm with my dad plinking targets with various fireams, I have one question. And fucking ONLY one.

How in the fucking fuck does a company as terrible as HiPoint make such godawful pistols that nobody in their right minds would touch them barring the worst case scenario, yet their god damn fucking carbines are legit amazing for the price? I wouldn't spit on a whore to save them with one of their pistols, but honestly I would swear by their 995 carbines. Im no newbie to shooting, and my dad has 40 years on me. And we both love this damn thing.

What the fucking actual fuck. How can a single company nail down one aspect, and fail like niggers at math in the other?

 

[Dead Lion]

been window shopping lee enfields but they all seem to either be heavily sporterized or extremely beat up.
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for example this one is at simpson ltd selling for 600 bucks. that's a pretty beat up gun for 600 bucks especially when i can hop on 'broker and look at a mosin for 400 in infinitely better condition, although obviously the enfields have a uniquely better action. but jeez, you would think these guns would be more common in original military configuration for how many were made and how many were imported in the 20th century. the entire design (action) has a very interesting provenance too, the enfield is probably the most unique bolt action especially considering how serviceable it is for a design originating in the 1870s. it's the AK of bolt actions.

I think most of them floating around are late war models thrown together from low quality components and materials. Both the SMLE Mk III and No. 4 Mk. I have a * variant that designates them as the 'blimey the jerries are winning' model from their respective wars.

 

[DocAwe]

been window shopping lee enfields but they all seem to either be heavily sporterized or extremely beat up.
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for example this one is at simpson ltd selling for 600 bucks. that's a pretty beat up gun for 600 bucks especially when i can hop on 'broker and look at a mosin for 400 in infinitely better condition,

But then you would have a moist nugget.

 

[WhoBusTank69]

Garands in general are overpriced. Big time boomer taxed. They're very common guns yet still every gun store and gun show seller thinks their ordinary M1 with no historical provenance in decent condition is some rare grail piece worth $2,000+

The M1 Carbine is arguably worse. It was and still sometimes is priced higher than the Garand despite there being more of them.

 

[Romulus augustulus]

been window shopping lee enfields but they all seem to either be heavily sporterized or extremely beat up.
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for example this one is at simpson ltd selling for 600 bucks. that's a pretty beat up gun for 600 bucks especially when i can hop on 'broker and look at a mosin for 400 in infinitely better condition, although obviously the enfields have a uniquely better action. but jeez, you would think these guns would be more common in original military configuration for how many were made and how many were imported in the 20th century. the entire design (action) has a very interesting provenance too, the enfield is probably the most unique bolt action especially considering how serviceable it is for a design originating in the 1870s. it's the AK of bolt actions.

a lot of them were rode hard. 1895-1957 as the main arm of an empire doesn't lend itself to good preservation, especially when that empire was bankrupt at the end. on top of that you've had another 50 years of civilian use with god knows what upkeep. Sporterized rifles tend to be much better condition since they (usually) only retain the most durable part of the original rifle (the action/bolt).

I challenge your assertion that the Lee rifle was "the AK of bolt actions". The Mauser is objectively better. Even the british were going to drop the Lee in the early 1900s for a Mauser (the P13 and P14, these eventually became the remington 700) but WW1 put a stop to that. The Mauser action is just stronger and more mechanically reliable.

it will never not be funny to me that the US was the first country to adopt and build James Lee's rifle.

 

[Bassomatic]

But then you would have a moist nugget.

I honestly pity the people who didn't stock up when they were cheap.
I legit forget if I have 7 or 8 and less than a G into it for all of them (aside the mods and stamp).

I got a pretty good deal on my GU-RAND and had to have one since I do collect. I find it a quite bitey rifle oddly enough. I love m1 carbine, my first real gun too. Had it fuck 26 years now! Great shooter, it's mrs HD gun too for when I'm away. They get a bad rap and probably over priced for what they are but I just find it a handy carbine, my one Grandpa was an officer in ww2 so he had one and I have his 1911 the carbine he turned in so it's lost to probably a warehouse in Korea.

Nothing matches that SMLE bolt tho, I only have one and I really enjoy it but aside my semi bren nothing else in 303 and no more surp so it just sits around even reloading it isn't that cheap.

 

[JimJams1998]

The M1 Carbine is arguably worse. It was and still sometimes is priced higher than the Garand despite there being more of them.

I always feel like this is due to how few are left floating around. Even at boomer pawnshops that make most their money hawking little jimmies xbox his druggie mom traded in for crack dollars have one or two garands sitting on the rack around here, I haven't regularly seen carbines on shelves since 2008. With how cheap and available they were post war I feel like most of the domestic supply got bought up and shot to death or left to rot in an attic etc.

 

[Biggest Bubba]

Have a fun range story, was at the range shooting mosins yesterday, guy and his girlfriend walks by and sets up at the bench next to me, I see he has a pretty good looking yugo mauser so we start talking and over the course of the conversation he mentions he got a great deal and bought it for 800 dollars, now I realize somthing was off with this guy at this point because Yugo mausers are like 450 or 500 at most, so I have a hunch this guy dosent know much (I ended up being right).

Guy immediately looks like it was his first time shooting a bolt action rifle, ask him what ammo he is firing because it looks like old surplus ammo, IT WAS FUCKING OVER PRESSURED TURKISH SURPLUS, but besides that while he is doing this he is trying to also teach his GF how to use a PSA AR-15, she flagged me two times.

Now 20 minutes later this guy asks if anyone has a screw driver, I give him one since I always carry tools for all my 100 year old shit pipes. Hand it to him and watch him go back to his mauser and THIS RETARD WAS TRYING TO USE MY SCREWDRIVER TO AJUST THE FRONT SIGHT POST ON HIS MAUSER BY BASHING IT WITH SAID FUCKING TINY FLATHEAD SCREW DRIVER, like those dont move, if you dont have a special tool, I try to tell him but he kept at it for 10 minutes. Ask him why he is trying to use the Ethiopian sight adjustment technique and he says he was hitting a little low and too the left.

Needless to say after that I went down to the 300yd range to get away from the fucking retards.

 

[Romulus augustulus]

I always feel like this is due to how few are left floating around. Even at boomer pawnshops that make most their money hawking little jimmies xbox his druggie mom traded in for crack dollars have one or two garands sitting on the rack around here, I haven't regularly seen carbines on shelves since 2008. With how cheap and available they were post war I feel like most of the domestic supply got bought up and shot to death or left to rot in an attic etc.

I understand what you mean, and I have experienced the same, but I don't understand the carbine market at all. A blue million are out there, AND M1 Carbines never left production. You can buy 100% new build carbines from Inland, Kahr Arms and Fulton armory. There should be a steady stream of them in stores but there just isn't. maybe they just sell that well?

 

[JimJams1998]

I understand what you mean, and I have experienced the same, but I don't understand the carbine market at all. A blue million are out there, AND M1 Carbines never left production. You can buy 100% new build carbines from Inland, Kahr Arms and Fulton armory. There should be a steady stream of them in stores but there just isn't. maybe they just sell that well?

I had always heard the new production ones were never that reliable, and they are rather spendy for something that lacks the authenticity a collector would want. Maybe if they could fix their reputation we could see them start coming around again, but in 2026 if you want a shootable garand action carbine with middling accuracy and no real historical connection to the war, there is always the mini 14. Every carbine I've seen at a store on the used rack has been so rusted and beat to shit that it gives the impression that most left floating around are in that condition, they were "ar-15" of the late 20th century after all.

 

[Romulus augustulus]

I had always heard the new production ones were never that reliable, and they are rather spendy for something that lacks the authenticity a collector would want. Maybe if they could fix their reputation we could see them start coming around again, but in 2026 if you want a shootable garand action carbine with middling accuracy and no real historical connection to the war, there is always the mini 14. Every carbine I've seen at a store on the used rack has been so rusted and beat to shit that it gives the impression that most left floating around are in that condition, they were "ar-15" of the late 20th century after all.

The fulton M1s are g2g. they do it right which is why it's so expensive. IDK about inland but the Kahr ones work but are picky with ammo. The mags are part that make most M1s fail new or old. they're pretty flimsy.

 

[Akran]

he got a great deal and bought it for 800 dollars,

wow, that is a great deal!



(never pay this much)