Metroid general

[X Prime]

Imagine trying to justify Samus being a wimp in any playable game. Dear Lord, the depths weeb coomers will stoop to to get a submissive waifu.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

Dudes will go on a huge rant about why they need Samus to be in a catsuit to jerk off and how she should be gang banged and then question why the fuck people (especially women) want nothing to do with them.

What an age we live in.

 

[X Prime]

It's insane. How does someone go on and on with paragraphs of text about this? We're a few steps away from some inane argument about fundies and abortions or something.

 

[Cultured Xeno]

Can I butt in and ask if there has been any news about Prime 4?

I remember reading that Nintendo went to Retro Studios to continue work on Prime 4 after reviewing what work Bandai Namco had done and saying the work did not meet their standards. This was back in 2018-19 so I figure they would have something after 5-6 years.

 

[Epoch]

I have no issue with the zero suit, I just don't like the face change from Prime 1 to Prime 2. The new face in Prime 2/3 just looks out of place in the more realistic/gritty artstyle compared to the more 'realistic' face in Prime 1.


Prime 3 looks better than Prime 2, but it still just looks out of place.

Might have something to do with how they did the LOD's.

No its a side effect of modern PBR rendering. They have to smooth out the fine details and soften the specular highlights or else the aliasing gets way too out of control. The gamecube version had no specular, everything was directly painted into a single texture, so all the fine detail was always rendered, but in PBR the detail is split into the base colour and then the roughness of the surface, so there is less control over fine detail but it looks better under lighting.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole 2]

That was a joke, you idiot. Like when that other fellow suggested a Samus/Ridley AO game. The fact that you're that easy to trigger speaks a lot.

You don't see Mario fans flying off the rails every time someone makes a sex joke about Princess Peach.

I'm not triggered though, I saw some increasingly erotic fan-fiction discussion happening meant to "to own the libs" and just like @xXx: State of the Union I told you it was weird.

Here's a video for you:

 

[NERF or NOTHIN']

Imagine trying to justify Samus being a wimp in any playable game. Dear Lord, the depths weeb coomers will stoop to to get a submissive waifu.

They do this with several strong female characters (see: literally any Street Fighter), seems to be a "thing" now.

They either have penises and are ugly, are lesbians and are ugly, or totally want my dick without question.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Imagine trying to justify Samus being a wimp in any playable game. Dear Lord, the depths weeb coomers will stoop to to get a submissive waifu.

A wimp? Have you seen Other M Samus fight? She's one brutal bitch. Sure, the cutscenes tell a different story, but that's like what, a tiny part of the time spent playing the game?

Classic 2D Samus is basically Mario with a gun and extra toys. Prime Samus is the Halo/Mass Effect/Republic Commando-style jungle fighter who strafes around the target while using the right weapon to kill the enemy. Other M Samus is the crazy bitch who will jump you and blow your brains out point-blank with a gun.

I never got the impression that she was a wimp in Other M, thanks to the gameplay. I got the exact opposite impression where she makes Master Chief and Boba Fett look positively restrained by comparison.

Dudes will go on a huge rant about why they need Samus to be in a catsuit to jerk off and how she should be gang banged and then question why the fuck people (especially women) want nothing to do with them.

What an age we live in.

Again, it was a joke. The fact that you're still sore about that makes you look like the kind of prude that even the Puritans would find to be too severe.

And if Samus were a real woman, living in the modern day, you can bet your ass that she'd have posted her ass on social media by now. That is, if she didn't already get married and popped out more kids than a Catholic housewife from the 1950s.

Can I butt in and ask if there has been any news about Prime 4?

I remember reading that Nintendo went to Retro Studios to continue work on Prime 4 after reviewing what work Bandai Namco had done and saying the work did not meet their standards. This was back in 2018-19 so I figure they would have something after 5-6 years.

Not a peep since 2020. It's been three years. I think they're just going to give it a rest after Metroid Dread. Or they may have something new that they're still keeping under wraps.

I have no issue with the zero suit, I just don't like the face change from Prime 1 to Prime 2. The new face in Prime 2/3 just looks out of place in the more realistic/gritty artstyle compared to the more 'realistic' face in Prime 1.

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Prime 3 looks better than Prime 2, but it still just looks out of place.

Prime 3 is the best-looking one. Makes her look younger, too-which makes sense, given that the Prime series takes place earlier in the Metroid timeline.

Also, the original Samus was a ginger, not blonde. No one threw a hissy-fit when they changed her looks in-game.

They do this with several strong female characters (see: literally any Street Fighter), seems to be a "thing" now.

Really? You're only seeing this now? Where have you been living? Under a rock?

Ever since the 90s and early 2000s, they've been making video game girls sexy AND strong all over the place. Tons of games had hot babes up the ass who can probably whoop you without breaking a nail. And guess what? The world didn't end. It just moved on. Because this whole thing is a nothingburger.

They either have penises and are ugly, are lesbians and are ugly, or totally want my dick without question.

The fact that you think that says a lot more about you than the people you think you're criticizing.

I'm not triggered though, I saw some increasingly erotic fan-fiction discussion happening meant to "to own the libs" and just like @xXx: State of the Union I told you it was weird.

Here's a video for you:

I don't know. Most of your points seem to come straight from something like Feminist Frequency or some other journalist outlet angry at young boys for liking hot girls.

It's like being angry at boys for wanting Wonder Woman to be hot.

 

[X Prime]

All these words, just to try and justify coombait to other posters on a fruit farming forum.

Forget AnH being /pol/, what is this, /vg/?

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

All these words, just to try and justify coombait to other posters on a fruit farming forum.

Forget AnH being /pol/, what is this, /vg/?

Again, if you want a main character who doesn't show skin and is just in the armor, all the time, Master Chief and Doomguy are more than available.

Samus was literally showing off in her first game. The very first game, she had a bikini underneath the armor. No Zero Suit, just a damn bikini. If anything, changing it to a zero suit is her covering up.

Why should Samus be changed for some emotionally-stunted people who can't accept that a character in a video game can be both attractive and strong? Or the fact that it's practically video game tradition to have strong female characters be attractive? You can keep throwing the word "coomer" or "coombait" around to express your anger that a fictional character dresses like that, or you can be mature enough to leave it alone and just..........not care. Most of the time, she's still in armor, anyways. You rarely get to play as ZSS, if you do so at all. Anyone who's mature enough can just separate the original, armored Samus that they grew to love, and the Space Babe Samus that Nintendo has jumping around in the Super Smash Brothers games.

Super Smash Brothers. You know, the non-canonical party fighting game where a cartoon hedgehog and a fat, Italian plumber can engage in a lightsaber duel on a floating platform in deep space as if it's Star Wars meets Fortnite, while a spy in a catsuit tosses grenades into the battlefield and a pink, sapient marshmallow turns to the camera and says "HIIIIIIII". So ZS Samus in SSBU has rocket heels. Big whoop. It's not canon to the Metroid games, just as Bowser turning into a giant, crack-head version of himself isn't canon to the Mario series.

Not to mention that the regular, armored Samus is still in the game, too-so if you want that version, you can play as her. And unlike in Brawl, you no longer turn into ZSS when you fire the Zero Laser. The armor and helmet stays on. So you can fire the Zero Laser all you want without having to turn into an unarmored space babe in a skintight blue jumpsuit.

 

[Dan of Steel]

Coomerism around Samus has never made much sense to me since even with something like the Zero Suit I've never thought of Samus as a particularlly sexual character. (although the heels in ZM are fucking dumb) I've always seen her being female as a pretty secondary aspect of her character considering she was raised by weird bird aliens so it makes sense she'd be a stoic autist solely focused on whatever her mission is at the time. That's not to say you don't ever see hints of emotion from Samus, like her relationship with the last metroid in SM, her story in Fusion, or the ending to Dread which I think are all well done and show depth she can have unlike Other M's "THE BABY."

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Coomerism around Samus has never made much sense to me since even with something like the Zero Suit I've never thought of Samus as a particularlly sexual character. (although the heels in ZM are fucking dumb) I've always seen her being female as a pretty secondary aspect of her character considering she was raised by weird bird aliens so it makes sense she'd be a stoic autist solely focused on whatever her mission is at the time.

Unfortunately, she's not your character, she's Nintendo's. And if they say they want her to be a sexy space babe with feelings of emotion not suited to an autist who was raised by weird space birds, then that's what will happen.

That's what happened with Revan back in the Star Wars games. Many fans envisioned Revan as this suave version of Thrawn with a lightsaber; male or female, if Revan was male, he's a super-genius who's shagging Bastila Shan, who is the hottest spoiled Jedi princess ever since Leia Organa. If Revan was female, she's a sharp-minded, but flirty and easygoing gal who makes tough old war hounds like Carth Onasi go ga-ga for her. Then Bioware decided with the Old Republic MMO that Revan was male. And not only male, but he's a corrupted Dark-Side crackhead who makes idiotic decisions and gets put down like a moron by the Sith. TWICE. Three times, if you count the DLC. But the fans moved on anyways, and they remembered Revan for the fun times they had with the character, and the potential Revan had, not the mess that Bioware turned him into.

That's not to say you don't ever see hints of emotion from Samus, like her relationship with the last metroid in SM, her story in Fusion, or the ending to Dread which I think are all well done and show depth she can have unlike Other M's "THE BABY."

Other M really dropped the ball with "The Baby" thing, but the plot was basically an excuse to have Samus run around on environments blowing shit up.

 

[X Prime]

Imagine thinking Other M was anything but an excuse for Sakamoto to try and take the franchise back from those dang dirty Westerners, and get back his submissive space waifu at the same time. Complete with mole.

At least he didn't troon her out like that one dev said.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Imagine thinking Other M was anything but an excuse for Sakamoto to try and take the franchise back from those dang dirty Westerners, and get back his submissive space waifu at the same time. Complete with mole.

Dude, Prime 3 has her looking like a waifu under the suit. To the point where they took that version of ZSS and put her in SSBB.

Also, I doubt Sakamoto even cares. He just made his own version of Samus, and there's plenty of versions of her, even in the Prime Trilogy there's three different versions of her under the helmet. Not to mention the only person Samus was submissive to was General Adam, who represents the party that signs Samus' paychecks. If she doesn't play ball with them, they'll just tell her to get screwed and she doesn't get paid. Even Boba Fett was submissive to Darth Vader and did as he asked, because the Empire was paying him.

 

[UERISIMILITUDO]

So, I believe there to be a good chance they'll do something like remake Metroid Fusion with Metroid Dread's internals before they make Metroid 6, but what are your opinions? On that note, regardless of anything else, Metroid Dread's fluid movement is enough to place it above every other game in the series for me. I can't play a game in the series now without reaching for the slide that isn't there.

With the metroids, the X, and all planets from the previous games out of the way, I wonder what they'll do for the next game.

 

[X Prime]

They're going to have a tough time topping Raven Beak no matter what, I think.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

I think this entire discussion is a prime example of how obsessive coomers potentially ruin games.

No, it's a discussion on how obsessive prudes can potentially ruin games.

How about neither? Now about Nintendo just keeps treating Samus as they have from day 1?

 

[X Prime]

How about neither? Now about Nintendo just keeps treating Samus as they have from day 1?

Let me put it this way.

Remember the Game Censorship topic? I believe you participated recently. If you pay attention, the conversation around game censorship is polluted to the point that if you try to talk about how things should generally not be censored, some sex-obsessed moron, usually of the loli-preferring variety, makes a good chunk of it about panties, oftentimes of the underaged variety.

It's as inevitable as the sun rising in the east. That tendency completely destroys a good chunk of anti-censorship rhetoric when it comes to gaming.

I personally see coomerism in general as a cancer because it enables that sort of thing.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

So, I believe there to be a good chance they'll do something like remake Metroid Fusion with Metroid Dread's internals before they make Metroid 6, but what are your opinions? On that note, regardless of anything else, Metroid Dread's fluid movement is enough to place it above every other game in the series for me. I can't play a game in the series now without reaching for the slide that isn't there.

Prime 4 is most likely the next thing they'll come out with. Unless that got canned.

Let me put it this way.

Remember the Game Censorship topic? I believe you participated recently. If you pay attention, the conversation around game censorship is polluted to the point that if you try to talk about how things should generally not be censored, some sex-obsessed moron, usually of the loli-preferring variety, makes a good chunk of it about panties, oftentimes of the underaged variety.

No one cares about Samus being sexualized until some prudes started whining about how she shouldn't be, despite the fact that she was, even in her first game.

Samus is an adult woman, having her depicted as sexy isn't breaking any taboos, any more than regular women on the beach break taboos. What is poisoning the well is all the whining about how she shouldn't be shown as physically attractive, with talking points lifted straight from Feminist Frequency about how having a woman be shown as beautiful is somehow demeaning.

Couple that with a misunderstanding of Other M and what Nintendo is doing with Samus (essentially, the same shit they've been doing to her since DAY FUCKING ONE) and it's a total shitshow.

Metroid players who are mentally and emotionally mature don't give two flying shits about Samus being shown as sexy. Those that do usually are into that fetish fuel, but those who aren't just ignore it and move on with enjoying the games. They can separate the armored war machine that they've grown to love with the hot space babe that Nintendo has jumping around in the Smash Bros games and in other media.

But if you hear some people talk about it, they act like Nintendo turned Samus into a Hooters waitress, instead of just having her show off her attractive physique in the modern day the way she used to back in the 1980s. Which, of course, is laughable, considering that 99% of the game content around her still has her keeping her armor on like some Mandalorian from the TV show of the same name.

Speaking of which, Metroid kind of is like The Mandalorian. The main character was a child rescued after their parents got killed by some weirdos who brought them up as a warrior, the protagonist is fully covered most of the time, we rarely see the main character's face, if at all, and the protagonist is going around collecting McGuffins while fighting monsters and bad guys in space. You even have THE BABY's equivalent with Baby Yoda.

 

[X Prime]

Never thought we'd see someone be able to compare to Menotaur in terms of sheer length of banal nonsense, but here we are.

Rise, Lord Galtator. May you not powerlevel about premature heart attacks. Though at this level of coom obsession, I fear the odds are not in your favor.